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De Evolution 07/14/20 1:03:32 PM #1: |
As confirmed by Orlando Health
https://twitter.com/Fox35Amy/status/1282982855430340610?s=20 ORLANDO, Fla. - The Florida Department of Health released its daily coronavirus testing report showing a statewide positivity rate of 11 percent, but FOX 35 News investigated and quickly noticed some shocking positivity rates. Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive. Other labs had very high positivity rates. FOX 35 found that testing sites like Centra Care reported that 83 people were tested and all tested positive. Then, NCF Diagnostics in Alachua reported 88 percent of tests were positive. The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report. FOX 35 News has yet to hear from the other labs or the Florida Department of Health to explain how the error could have been made on an official report. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 07/14/20 1:05:09 PM #2: |
FOX news = no credibility.
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whitelytning 07/14/20 1:05:26 PM #3: |
So is the virus a big deal or not?
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Takuya Lee 07/14/20 1:06:09 PM #4: |
monkmith posted...
FOX news = no credibility. It's a local affiliate, and not the national network. --- I'm just passing through. Remember that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:07:49 PM #5: |
"Trump's poll numbers are down and things are spiraling out of control!"
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Jabodie 07/14/20 1:07:53 PM #6: |
whitelytning posted...
So is the virus a big deal or not?Tbh conservatives will use this story to discredit all rising case and death numbers now. --- <insert sig here> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 07/14/20 1:09:22 PM #7: |
monkmith posted...
FOX news = no credibility. De Evolution posted...
I know you liberals hate the truth when it doesn't fulfill your ideological biases, but these are the facts. They admitted the numbers on the report don't reflect the actual numbers for their facilities. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:10:55 PM #8: |
Positivity rate = number of positive tests / total number of tests given (in percentage)
Whether or not that rate is 100% or 10%, the total number of positive tests doesn't change. The "Positivity rate" is skewed because most places don't report negative tests (because it's really not that useful) It's like saying 100,000 positive cases and 20,000 negative tests were reported. Making the rate 83%. If there were actually 200,000 negative tests, that rate would be 33%, but there would still be 100,000 new cases of COVID19. In other words, the actual number of cases of COVID19 are still being accurately reported. But let's keep that misinformation train-a-rolling. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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known2FAIL 07/14/20 1:11:02 PM #9: |
Im confused here. Statewide positivity rate is 11%. They said there is some errors in Orlando with an insane positivity rate in 80% range. How exactly would fixing these small area rates greatly reduce the overall positive rates? 6% and 9.4% makes sense and it lines up with the overall 11%. If the majority of places in Florida had insane positivity rates then the number would be much higher than 11%. Taking a few outliers to say all the numbers in Florida are fake seems disingenuous
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lordofmud 07/14/20 1:11:12 PM #10: |
I've also heard that hospitals are encouraged to put Coronavirus as cause of death even if it was not the primary reason for death. In other words, "this man died of coronavirus vs. This man with coronavirus died". There is a difference.
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au_gold 07/14/20 1:11:25 PM #11: |
Jabodie posted...
Tbh conservatives will use this story to discredit all rising case and death numbers now.This is the sad truth. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 07/14/20 1:13:34 PM #12: |
When Trump puts out misinformation or lies he's literally Hitler.
But when false reports are presented to the public that make liberals look bad, it's a bunch of excuses and rationalizations for why it's okay. It's amusing yet sad to see. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/14/20 1:13:52 PM #13: |
lordofmud posted...
I've also heard that hospitals are encouraged to put Coronavirus as cause of death even if it was not the primary reason for death. In other words, "this man died of coronavirus vs. This man with coronavirus died". There is a difference.Who did you hear that from? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:13:57 PM #14: |
lordofmud posted...
I've also heard that hospitals are encouraged to put Coronavirus as cause of death even if it was not the primary reason for death. In other words, "this man died of coronavirus vs. This man with coronavirus died". There is a difference. As the person who literally assigns "cause of death" when I report deaths to the State, you're wrong. Period. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 07/14/20 1:14:07 PM #15: |
Is this the same Department of Health that manipulated the data to show cases were decreasing by rearranging the dates?
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CableZL 07/14/20 1:14:41 PM #16: |
lordofmud posted...
I've also heard that hospitals are encouraged to put Coronavirus as cause of death even if it was not the primary reason for death. In other words, "this man died of coronavirus vs. This man with coronavirus died". There is a difference.Where did you hear that from? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:14:44 PM #17: |
De Evolution posted...
When Trump puts out misinformation or lies he's literally Hitler. Positivity rate = number of positive tests / total number of tests given (in percentage) Whether or not that rate is 100% or 10%, the total number of positive tests doesn't change. The "Positivity rate" is skewed because most places don't report negative tests (because it's really not that useful) It's like saying 100,000 positive cases and 20,000 negative tests were reported. Making the rate 83%. If there were actually 200,000 negative tests, that rate would be 33%, but there would still be 100,000 new cases of COVID19. In other words, the actual number of cases of COVID19 are still being accurately reported. Guess you're just gonna ignore this. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/14/20 1:14:47 PM #18: |
Hard to believe a hoax killed over 100,000 individuals.
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whitelytning 07/14/20 1:15:26 PM #19: |
Florida had a record number of deaths yesterday. IMO, that is a little more important than the accuracy of the positivity rate.
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kingdrake2 07/14/20 1:16:06 PM #20: |
Strider102 posted...
Hard to believe a hoax killed over 100,000 individuals. everyone can believe what they like but the truth is out there. virus is ending people left and right on a daily basis. we're not taking it seriously enough. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordofmud 07/14/20 1:16:10 PM #21: |
You're the coroner for the entire US? Then how do you know what goes on elsewhere. Also, more details required. Because I can say I'm the Master of Infectious diseases for Ohio but if I don't back it up I'm just a guy on a message board posting woonky theories.
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known2FAIL 07/14/20 1:16:33 PM #22: |
De Evolution posted...
When Trump puts out misinformation or lies he's literally Hitler. It isnt ok. However, errors can happen in reports. Its not excusable but at least it is plausible. The lies Trump says are blatant. He never apologies are admits his lies. Plus, they are harmful to the country yet he keeps doing them at an alarming rate. He lost all credibility a long time ago. Maybe if he lied rarely then maybe people wouldnt hate him as much as they do now --- I don't know why I'm playing Destiny 2... but I am... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 07/14/20 1:17:27 PM #23: |
monkmith posted...
FOX news = no credibility.Tribalism is bad --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 07/14/20 1:17:27 PM #24: |
DarkRoast posted...
Positivity rate = number of positive tests / total number of tests given (in percentage) No. The positivity rate was completely misreported. We're not talking about the number of cases. You don't give a fuck about false information being put out lol. You are literally the kind of person I was making a point about. They're literally telling people a certain percentage of people are infected and they're using fake numbers. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/14/20 1:18:07 PM #25: |
"We just gotta live with it."
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whitelytning 07/14/20 1:19:10 PM #26: |
De Evolution posted...
When Trump puts out misinformation or lies he's literally Hitler. Can you acknowledge that inadvertent errors in a reporting process are different than active lying or promoting misinformation? --- ************************************************ https://imgur.com/iZdWIKJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 07/14/20 1:19:39 PM #27: |
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200713/arizona-florida-texas-face-hospital-capacity
Florida hospitals are also facing capacity concerns. As of Sunday morning, more than 7,300 people are hospitalized for COVID-19, according to data from the states Agency of Health Care Administration. More than 50 hospitals are at max capacity and have no ICU beds available, according to WFLA, an NBC affiliate in Tampa. Another 435 people were hospitalized overnight on Friday, the news station reported, marking a new record. You know, were putting ourselves at risk and other people arent willing to do anything and in fact go the other way and be aggressive to promote the disease. Its really, its really hard, Andrew Pastewski, MD, medical director of the ICU at Jackson South Medical Center in Miami, told Reuters. ......Okay, so it's fake news these hospitals are full capacity? I think that'd be very easy to debunk if this was false. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 07/14/20 1:19:40 PM #28: |
After they lied before and fired someone for speaking the truth gonna go with doubt.
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:20:17 PM #29: |
De Evolution posted...
No. That's not what they're saying. That's how you're interpreting what they're saying. Because you need an education in the subject to actually know what you're talking about. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/14/20 1:20:40 PM #30: |
"If we get less then 100,000 deaths we handled this well."
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sktgamer_13dude 07/14/20 1:20:50 PM #31: |
Takuya Lee posted...
It's still owned by the Fox Corporation. Also I still don't understand how falsifying positivity % means that COVID isn't a thing or that cases aren't going up. Yeah, they shouldn't be saying "100% of people who test in Orlando will come up positive from COVID," but that doesn't take away from the fact that people are still dying to COVID and that cases are going up everyday in huge numbers. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 07/14/20 1:21:53 PM #32: |
Strider102 posted...
"If we get less then 100,000 deaths we handled this well." Trump is now claiming the fact that we don't have millions of deaths means he did well. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anticyclonic 07/14/20 1:22:28 PM #33: |
De Evolution posted...
When Trump puts out misinformation or lies he's literally Hitler. Mostly the post makes you look bad. You've demonstrated once again that conservatives don't understand details or nuance. Your response was "baha! Hey guys i dunno what positivity rate means but this news article say something about errors! Haha dumb libs!! Trump's dick taste good!" --- If this signature appears blue, you need to consider not doing whatever it is you're doing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 07/14/20 1:22:37 PM #34: |
What do the rates matter? If 100,000 are dead but they tested a million, yeah maybe only 10% of the people tested died but its still 100,000 people dead.
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EvalAngell 07/14/20 1:22:44 PM #35: |
Strider102 posted...
"We just gotta live with it." How else do you stop a virus with no cure? Even the flu isn't 100% preventable. --- Perfectly balanced. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 07/14/20 1:22:50 PM #36: |
DarkRoast posted...
As the person who literally assigns "cause of death" when I report deaths to the State, you're wrong. Period. Really? The CDC gave specific guidance on it and sent it out months ago. It was reported on. Straight from the CDC website
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf? fbclid=IwAR0cUfrat6ZO6L-r8KfJrg9blGmFDoxnfGzGDweIjm60kLqiu2PJ11foonw --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/14/20 1:23:02 PM #37: |
CableZL posted...
Trump is now claiming the fact that we don't have millions of deaths means he did well. Fall/winter will be depressing as hell. --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 07/14/20 1:23:04 PM #38: |
De Evolution posted...
I know you liberals hate the truth when it doesn't fulfill your ideological biases, but these are the factsDripping with irony --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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De Evolution 07/14/20 1:24:06 PM #39: |
Shablagoo posted...
What do the rates matter? Liberals when the statistics are wrong. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:24:13 PM #40: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
It's still owned by the Fox Corporation. It's not even falsifying. They only reported their positive cases, which is something that happens with some regularity and is annoying to state epidemiologists but by no means alters the total number of new cases per day, which is what these Redpillers are implying. Because memory holes, whataboutism and abusing people's innate ability to understand statistics or how public health operates is their lifeblood. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 07/14/20 1:24:25 PM #41: |
De Evolution posted...
Really? The CDC gave specific guidance on it and sent it out months ago. That literally says COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate if the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. That does not mean putting COVID-19 on a death certificate when the symptoms leading up to death are unrelated at all. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/14/20 1:25:02 PM #42: |
De Evolution posted...
Really? The CDC gave specific guidance on it and sent it out months ago. That doesn't mean what you think it means, and if past experience with you is any indication, there's no point in me wasting the time explaining to you why you're wrong. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/14/20 1:26:14 PM #43: |
EvalAngell posted...
How else do you stop a virus with no cure? Even the flu isn't 100% preventable. But the flu! --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 07/14/20 1:26:56 PM #44: |
Smackems posted...
Tribalism is badi fully agree, its why i call out fox news for their crap, seeing that they've pioneered the tribalism bullshit. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sktgamer_13dude 07/14/20 1:27:14 PM #45: |
CableZL posted...
"Here's this thing from the CDC website that says they should report COVID-19 as the CoD if the doctors know COVID-19 attributed to their death! See liberals! This is wrong!" Quite the argument from TC tbh. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 07/14/20 1:27:20 PM #46: |
De Evolution posted...
Liberals when the statistics are wrong. Well Im not a liberal and whyd you cut off the meat of my post which explained my reasoning for questioning why rates matter? Is it because youre trolling and no one should pay any attention to this flopic at all? (Yes, yes it is.) --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anticyclonic 07/14/20 1:27:33 PM #47: |
I love how dipshits who could barely pass a high school biology class are now trying to school the professionals on pandemics since it has become political. Really says a lot about conservatives...
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Atralis 07/14/20 1:28:50 PM #48: |
Why would they lie about that?
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Ruvan22 07/14/20 1:31:34 PM #49: |
EvalAngell posted...
How else do you stop a virus with no cure? Even the flu isn't 100% preventable. Wearing a mask, social distancing, etc. There's a gulf of difference between "We just gotta live with it" and "Doing things to minimize the spread" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 07/14/20 1:32:14 PM #50: |
TC is literally one of the worst posters on this entire fucking site and the fact he's still here is a joke.
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