Current Events > The type of people that support Terry Crews

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VTBM posted...

Terry Crews is right though.

Hes right in the same sense that people who say all lives matter are technically correct


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Veggeta X posted...

What's your point?

People dont just become abrasive for no reason

BLM is a hate filled divisive organization. This "anti-racism" is inflaming racial tensions, not easing them.

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So in this topic we discovered this:

Supporting Terry in his true message of freedom and equality = racist. A pro athlete has no influence what so ever so he can say whatever racist shit he wants, no biggie.

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Royce da 5'9" had an interesting rant regarding Terry Crews.

Both are from Michigan, Terry from Flint specifically. And apparently he hasn't said anything about the whole lack of clean water that Flint has been dealing with for years.

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Veggeta X posted...

Supporting Terry in his true message of freedom and equality = racist.

This would be all well and good if his message of freedom and equality was given to other people. Because he has posted messages before that completely violate this whole positive shtick he has cultivated.

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Veggeta X posted...

So in this topic we discovered this:

Supporting Terry in his true message of freedom and equality = racist. A pro athlete has no influence what so ever so he can say whatever racist shit he wants, no biggie.

i dont care about what drew brees said

UnfairRepresent posted...

in his defense if these were Trump supporting white athletes quoting hitler you would not use this argument

Here's the advanced lesson: you can criticize more than one thing at a time

And as I said, the difference is in established power structures. A white player saying this plays into a system that is easily used to make their statements reality. You can criticize these players, sure but they aren't an actual threat, is my point.

Veggeta X posted...

Okay let me make my point simpler for you. "Silence is compliance" and "Pro athletes has no political influence" are only arguments needed to be made when it fits your narrative, however these statements no longer stay true is it is used against you. Basically I'm calling you a hippocrit and a fake freedom fighter.

I never called myself a "freedom fighter" lol and the fact you keep trying to make it a thing points to you not being a serious poster. But I'll humor you...the difference is that the power used by Kaepernick was an appeal to white people. Black folks already knew about the injustices of policing and have been talking about it for decades. Kaep wasn't trying to mobilize us. He was reaching out to those who could actually make change occur, i.e. white people and those in positions of power.

In regards to Desean, black people have also known about these views for quite sometime. This isn't some new, radical thought black people are having. It's not a worry because it's a fringe thought and has no chance of becoming a reality since they would need the support of those with more power, i.e. white people and those in positions s of power. Are you saying that those will join in and support a black supremacy movement?

I mean Crews is basically the Wayne Brady of the 2010's but he isnt wrong in his premise. I think people are just knee jerk reacting to this as if its a criticism or an attack when it isnt.

In other words, stop being tribal. Even if it is a criticism, no one has to disagree with you to criticize you.

If you say 2+2 is 4 of course Im going to agree with you, but if I check your work and you used Chair - Small Duck = Rock to make that conclusion then I am going to have some criticisms to make.

Doesnt mean your end conclusion is wrong but its not a good idea to absolve yourself of correcting your bad methodology. (Which while I didnt intend to make a metaphor for whats actually going on here, is actually a pretty apt one. Go figure)

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Nope, I'm just simply calling your hippocrisy out, and thank you for admitting to be only fighting for a narrow portion of what you think equality is. We need more people like you to out your true agenda. You guys are taking steps back which isn't needed for the mission.

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Veggeta X posted...

Nope, I'm just simply calling your hippocrisy out, and thank you for admitting to be only fighting for a narrow portion of what you think equality is. We need more people like you to out your true agenda. You guys are taking steps back which isn't needed for the mission.

Lol you don't care about any "mission." But troll on, I guess?

lolife67 posted...

But troll on, I guess?

And there it is. These are the type of people are outraging over Terry. And I do care about bringing about equality, unlike you.

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I mean, that's not really making any kind of point...

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

This smells like a pretty bad take.

Tc has a history of stretch Armstrong bad takes

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Good for terry and every single good person in the world can see hes putting out a good message

shows us who the terrible people really are if they just cant stand him putting out positivity. Some people are allergic to it

I dunno how I can make my point any clearer than bluntly calling you a hippocrit and saying you're fake in this fight for equality.

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2Pacavelli posted...

He let a movie exec violate him but threatens African Americans with violence when they disagree with his stance on toxic masculinity. He contradicts himself often

Yeah he did say he would slap DL Hughley that time. He apologized for it thought.

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Fake Vegy shitting up yet another topic

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i like when he played the office linebacker

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Candace Owens and Terry Crews are one in the same

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ledbowman posted...

i like when he played the office linebacker

You think all Terrys look alike?
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Veggeta X posted...

And there it is. These are the type of people are outraging over Terry. And I do care about bringing about equality, unlike you.

What kind of things have you done to bring about "equality"?

Ruvan22 posted...

What kind of things have you done to bring about "equality"?

You should prolly question the other people that.

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I love the logic of: if we get rid of white supremacists it will 100% bring up black supremacists.

Black people saying "we want to be treated as people" somehow translates to "black people want to rule white people"?

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EvilMegas posted...

I love the logic of: if we get rid of white supremacists it will 100% bring up black supremacists.

Black people saying "we want to be treated as people" somehow translates to "black people want to rule white people"?

You love logic that nobody's using?

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That's been Terry Crews whole point this entire time.

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EvilMegas posted...

I love the logic of: if we get rid of white supremacists it will 100% bring up black supremacists.

Black people saying "we want to be treated as people" somehow translates to "black people want to rule white people"?

The 'servile insurrection' boogeyman. "If we free the slaves, nothing will stop them from simply killing us all!"


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Veggeta X posted...

You should prolly question the other people that.

Why? You were the first in this thread to claim you are "Advocating equality" - so what do you do to help the cause?

cjsdowg posted...

All that fool does is feed the fears of racist white people.

this. terry crews is a fucking idiot. he doesnt speak for all black people and he sure as fuck doesnt speak for me

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lurk posted...

Wow 11 people like desean and Farrakhan.

a whole 11 people.

Its obviously a lot more than 11 NFL players. Anti-semitism is big in pockets of the black woke community, and it goes unchallenged by society. A month ago, Drew Brees said that people should stand for the national anthem, and hundreds of other players (including his own teammates) publicly blasted him, calling him ignorant on race. Now, DeSean Jackson says that Hitler was right about the Jews, and only a couple of non-Jewish players complain about him, and a bunch of players publicly support Jackson and say he was just spreading the truth. Players are afraid to speak out against anti-Semitism because itll make a bunch of their teammates/friends turn on them if they do.

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EvilMegas posted...

I love the logic of: if we get rid of white supremacists it will 100% bring up black supremacists.

Black people saying "we want to be treated as people" somehow translates to "black people want to rule white people"?

This is the problem I have. He isn't really wrong with some of his statements, but there aren't very many people calling for black supremacy as much as people are seeking equality. Why mention the former when we weren't worried about it in the first place? All that does is irrationally frighten or fire up the racists that still choose to believe that BLM only views our lives as important.

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EvilMegas posted...

That's been Terry Crews whole point this entire time.

Say it louder for the ones in the back

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I don't know how many of you know actual white supremacists but they're as opportunistic as they are paranoid, always desperately looking to every little thing to reaffirm their views. They'll take the smallest thing and blow it up. If they can't find anything, they'll take something and twist and distort it until they're content with the "proof" they found. A prominent black man talking about "black supremacy" like it's at all a possibility of happening - especially to the extent that white supremacy has been implemented in USA - is just so incredibly damaging to any pursuit of true equality that I don't think it can be overstated.

Of course, to those of you who are not racist, it's easy to focus on the positive nature of what he's saying, and I agree that it's a nice sentiment. We shouldn't let anyone become a tyrannical force over another while trying to achieve equality. That's not at all what white supremacists and other types of right-wing bigots take from this message. Not even close.

White supremacists already have all kinds of fears about sharing society with BIPOC. "Black supremacy" is a terrifying prospect to them because they already believe whites are under siege, starting at various points between 1865 and 2008, depending on who you're asking. There's a near universal perception among them that not only is racism against black people not a problem currently (if it ever was to begin with) it's actually the whites who are being persecuted.

They think that their women and children, homes, money, jobs, dignity, and legacy are on the verge of being taken from them by BIPOC. And they think black people are put on a pedestal, given special treatment, given extra attention - all at the expense of the whites. It's easy to look at things like history or who overwhelmingly possesses the political, social, and financial power in America and see how utterly wrong this is but they're incapable of recognizing this. The persecution complex inherent to white supremacy will not let them see this.

A prominent black man - especially one who got the "woke" credibility for being a male who spoke out against sexual assault in evil, Satanic, degenerate Hollywood - entertaining "black supremacy" is a gold mine to these idiots. It reaffirms everything they've ever believed in the nastiest way possible. Anything positive about that message is left in the dust of a whirlwind of anti-equality destruction because they only see a black man confirming their greatest fears, that "black supremacy" is a real thing and society needs to be vigilant about it, even though white supremacy is and always has been (and will seemingly continue to be for the foreseeable future) the vastly more credible and severe threat to the world.

And that's where things get scary. They're already vigilant about this bogeyman and several others. The right has a body count and white supremacists don't need to be emboldened in any fashion, even if by accident because of good intentions and feel good sentiment that has little, if any, real world application when it comes to America's race problem.

cjsdowg posted...

Tell me if message is jsut about peace and love why are people who are fans out out and out racist the people who are liking his statements the most ?

Yup. Many of the right-wingers I know who cancelled Crews because of his pro-China social media posts had no problem pointing to him to support their bigotry against black people.

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Ruvan22 posted...

Why? You were the first in this thread to claim you are "Advocating equality" - so what do you do to help the cause?

I know you're not asking this in good faith so why answer?

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KStateKing17 posted...

This is the problem I have. He isn't really wrong with some of his statements, but there aren't very many people calling for black supremacy as much as people are seeking equality. Why mention the former when we weren't worried about it in the first place? All that does is irrationally frighten or fire up the racists that still choose to believe that BLM only views our lives as important.

Well basing this topic on a lot of things, it's pretty clear some people pick and choose what is right and is wrong. And when people out themselves then their argument or opinion holds no more grounds.

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TC, this is fruitless. Everyone knows why what Terry Crews is doing is wrong. They're pretending it's not for a few reasons, the big ones being

a. what he's saying helps foster their narrative that the BLM agenda is to subvert the power dynamic between whites and minorities, leading to minority rule

b. they like to piss off black people and anyone left of center-right

Veggeta X posted...

I know you're not asking this in good faith so why answer?

To demonstrate that you aren't a hypocrite, since you railed against that so much in this thread?

Pseudomenon posted...
I don't know how many of you know actual white supremacists but they're as opportunistic as they are paranoid, always desperately looking to every little thing to reaffirm their views. They'll take the smallest thing and blow it up. If they can't find anything, they'll take something and twist and distort it until they're content with the "proof" they found. A prominent black man talking about "black supremacy" like it's at all a possibility of happening - especially to the extent that white supremacy has been implemented in USA - is just so incredibly damaging to any pursuit of true equality that I don't think it can be overstated.

Of course, to those of you who are not racist, it's easy to focus on the positive nature of what he's saying, and I agree that it's a nice sentiment. We shouldn't let anyone become a tyrannical force over another while trying to achieve equality. That's not at all what white supremacists and other types of right-wing bigots take from this message. Not even close.

White supremacists already have all kinds of fears about sharing society with BIPOC. "Black supremacy" is a terrifying prospect to them because they already believe whites are under siege, starting at various points between 1865 and 2008, depending on who you're asking. There's a near universal perception among them that not only is racism against black people not a problem currently (if it ever was to begin with) it's actually the whites who are being persecuted.

They think that their women and children, homes, money, jobs, dignity, and legacy are on the verge of being taken from them by BIPOC. And they think black people are put on a pedestal, given special treatment, given extra attention - all at the expense of the whites. It's easy to look at things like history or who overwhelmingly possesses the political, social, and financial power in America and see how utterly wrong this is but they're incapable of recognizing this. The persecution complex inherent to white supremacy will not let them see this.

A prominent black man - especially one who got the "woke" credibility for being a male who spoke out against sexual assault in evil, Satanic, degenerate Hollywood - entertaining "black supremacy" is a gold mine to these idiots. It reaffirms everything they've ever believed in the nastiest way possible. Anything positive about that message is left in the dust of a whirlwind of anti-equality destruction because they only see a black man confirming their greatest fears, that "black supremacy" is a real thing and society needs to be vigilant about it, even though white supremacy is and always has been (and will seemingly continue to be for the foreseeable future) the vastly more credible and severe threat to the world.

And that's where things get scary. They're already vigilant about this bogeyman and several others. The right has a body count and white supremacists don't need to be emboldened in any fashion, even if by accident because of good intentions and feel good sentiment that has little, if any, real world application when it comes to America's race problem.

Yup. Many of the right-wingers I know who cancelled Crews because of his pro-China social media posts had no problem pointing to him to support their bigotry against black people.

This post is great and a better worded version of what I was going to post

tl;dr: a prominent black man warning against black supremacy only reinforces bigoted white peoples fears of a black supremacy boogeyman

even if there is a tiny fraction of people who truly believe in the so-called black lives better or whatever, all him bringing it up serves to do is undermine the movement by giving the bigots ammo to use against it

so again, as with all lives matter, sure its technically true, but in practice it just is used to undermine black lives matter

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Terry is right and Tucker Carlson is a turd. Two things can be true at the same time.

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Zodd3224 posted...

Terry is right and Tucker Carlson is a turd. Two things can be true at the same time.

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just outta curiosity who you guys think ur foolin

This is a good read, Im learning how to internet argue

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Pseudomenon posted...

I don't know how many of you know actual white supremacists but they're as opportunistic as they are paranoid, always desperately looking to every little thing to reaffirm their views. They'll take the smallest thing and blow it up. If they can't find anything, they'll take something and twist and distort it until they're content with the "proof" they found. A prominent black man talking about "black supremacy" like it's at all a possibility of happening - especially to the extent that white supremacy has been implemented in USA - is just so incredibly damaging to any pursuit of true equality that I don't think it can be overstated.

Of course, to those of you who are not racist, it's easy to focus on the positive nature of what he's saying, and I agree that it's a nice sentiment. We shouldn't let anyone become a tyrannical force over another while trying to achieve equality. That's not at all what white supremacists and other types of right-wing bigots take from this message. Not even close.

White supremacists already have all kinds of fears about sharing society with BIPOC. "Black supremacy" is a terrifying prospect to them because they already believe whites are under siege, starting at various points between 1865 and 2008, depending on who you're asking. There's a near universal perception among them that not only is racism against black people not a problem currently (if it ever was to begin with) it's actually the whites who are being persecuted.

They think that their women and children, homes, money, jobs, dignity, and legacy are on the verge of being taken from them by BIPOC. And they think black people are put on a pedestal, given special treatment, given extra attention - all at the expense of the whites. It's easy to look at things like history or who overwhelmingly possesses the political, social, and financial power in America and see how utterly wrong this is but they're incapable of recognizing this. The persecution complex inherent to white supremacy will not let them see this.

A prominent black man - especially one who got the "woke" credibility for being a male who spoke out against sexual assault in evil, Satanic, degenerate Hollywood - entertaining "black supremacy" is a gold mine to these idiots. It reaffirms everything they've ever believed in the nastiest way possible. Anything positive about that message is left in the dust of a whirlwind of anti-equality destruction because they only see a black man confirming their greatest fears, that "black supremacy" is a real thing and society needs to be vigilant about it, even though white supremacy is and always has been (and will seemingly continue to be for the foreseeable future) the vastly more credible and severe threat to the world.

And that's where things get scary. They're already vigilant about this bogeyman and several others. The right has a body count and white supremacists don't need to be emboldened in any fashion, even if by accident because of good intentions and feel good sentiment that has little, if any, real world application when it comes to America's race problem.

Yup. Many of the right-wingers I know who cancelled Crews because of his pro-China social media posts had no problem pointing to him to support their bigotry against black people.

Well said

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There are no good mainstream media talking heads. Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon are two sides of the same coin.

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DeroIin posted...

Candace Owens and Terry Crews are one in the same

Terry's just a "safe" grifter.

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The difference between crews and owens is that crews is just a well meaning moron and doesnt understand he's being used. Owens understands she's being used and is being compensated for it

Its pretty gross the way people treat black people that don't fall in line with the democratic party. Dems aren't as overtly racist as the GOP but fuck them too.

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I'd like to think he's not THAT tone deaf with how lukewarm and lacking in any nuance whatsoever every single take hes had has been. Then again, there's never really a shortage of useful idiots. >_>

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Zodd3224 posted...

Its pretty gross the way people treat black people that don't fall in line with the democratic party. Dems aren't as overtly racist as the GOP but fuck them too.

I dont even get why messages of togetherness are not line with the democratic party
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