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PowerOats
07/07/20 10:32:54 AM
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UnfairRepresent
07/07/20 10:35:57 AM
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Not just the best Final Fantasy but the best video game ever made IMO.

And I say that while accepting that every complaint ever lodged against it is 100% fair and accurate

Despite it's flaws it has so much charm and atmosphere and character. It has more soul than any other AAA game I've ever played. It has the passion of a diehard indy developer's , magnum opus with the budget of a AAA game made by 450 people.

And if I haven't sucked it off enough already, I'm still discovering things about it to this day.

It was only last week where I found out you can actually fight the Friendly Yan and it's almost like discovering a new secret boss fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKBz1KsQY1Y

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gunplagirl
07/07/20 10:38:02 AM
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Best? I could get into an encounter, file my taxes, and still not have every party member's ATB bar filled.

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UnfairRepresent
07/07/20 10:40:35 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Best? I could get into an encounter, file my taxes, and still not have every party member's ATB bar filled.

Lol

When I first played the game my brothers scratched the discs (yes I blame them, I always take good care of my games) and I always assumed the game's slowless was due to those scratches. It never occured to me that no, the battle system is just that slow.

Apparently the PC version is just as bad which is hilarious.
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apolloooo
07/07/20 10:40:43 AM
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Peak FF

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creativerealms
07/07/20 10:42:36 AM
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The best final fantasy is 29 years old.

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Skurvy_1
07/07/20 10:43:07 AM
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My fave as well

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Questionmarktarius
07/07/20 10:43:18 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Best? I could get into an encounter, file my taxes, and still not have every party member's ATB bar filled.
Go play Blue Dragon. It's a FF9 battlesystem that works, combined with a ludicrous extrapolation of FF5's job system.
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UnfairRepresent
07/07/20 10:45:02 AM
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mattymad posted...
I've never got the love for IX and I've played pretty much all major FF titles.

It's skill/equipment system is lacking compared to 7, 8 and 10, which leads the combat to being very boring (ignoring the camera spin it does before the battle starts, bleh).

It is painfully, painfully slow - in terms of pacing, animation and flow. I got to the last disk and never beat it. I had no idea what was going on, nor did I really care.


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Caution999
07/07/20 10:47:15 AM
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I always felt like IX was a little incomplete. Could've used a couple optional characters. Perhaps Beatrix should've been an optional character. I did once play a REALLY GOOD mod which included Beatrix and even gave her dialogue(PC version). Was awesome.

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Questionmarktarius
07/07/20 10:48:32 AM
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Is there really any need to 'spoiler' that?
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Caution999
07/07/20 10:51:36 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Is there really any need to 'spoiler' that?

Yes; considering She turns good at a point in the story.

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Questionmarktarius
07/07/20 10:51:52 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Final boss was completely out of left field though.
FF4 did that already, though.
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Garioshi
07/07/20 10:52:30 AM
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But the best Final Fantasy is almost 30

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Caution999
07/07/20 10:52:33 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
FF4 did that already, though.

Lol, and FFIX was supposed to draw references to the 8 previous Final Fantasy games...so...

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Iodine
07/07/20 10:55:50 AM
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Woa I just realized that Square released Final Fantasy 8-10 in three straight years.

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Caution999
07/07/20 10:56:33 AM
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Iodine posted...
Woa I just realized that Square released Final Fantasy 8-10 in three straight years.

Yeah back then they knew how to make great games and do them in a speedy time table WITHOUT the ability to patch any glitches.

Makes ya think.

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Questionmarktarius
07/07/20 10:56:58 AM
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Iodine posted...
Woa I just realized that Square released Final Fantasy 8-10 in three straight years.
Was this before or after that damned movie nearly destroyed the company?
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JE19426
07/07/20 11:02:24 AM
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Iodine posted...
Woa I just realized that Square released Final Fantasy 8-10 in three straight years.

11 was released the year after 10. 4 games in 4 straight years.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Apparently the PC version is just as bad which is hilarious.

It is, but there's mods that fix.
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Verdekal
07/07/20 11:20:35 AM
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Played it for the first time in 2017, made it to the card tournament.

I didn't like it too much. I was too kiddy. I can see why people here like it, because of the nostalgia factor. I felt like a Gen X'er playing it for the first time as an adult.

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UnfairRepresent
07/07/20 11:48:45 AM
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Verdekal posted...


I didn't like it too much. I was too kiddy. I can see why people here like it, because of the nostalgia factor.

See I can't prove it but I think I would love it just as much if I played it for the first time today

You call it kiddy (and it is) but also has genocide, mass brutal death/suffering, themes of individuality, introspection, the idea of what a 'home' means, the concept of a soul and notion of your inveitable mortal death and various ways of coping with it.

It's a kiddy game with a wacky yet solid fantasy world that explores a lot of adult themes in kid friendly yet mature way while remaining consistent. There's a lot of depth to it. Even characters that have very simple personalities like Steiner and Quina still have character arcs and real complexity to their thoughts and actions. Someone actually cared when they wrote them.

Where as so many video games are "Adult" and then explore really childish themes with characters who have 2D personalities in largely pulp situations doing shit that makes no sense, while being utterly inconsistent.

God of War Reboot, Days Gone, Mortal Kombat, Metal Gear Solid 5, The Last of Us, Dead Space, Warfighter, Every Single David Cage Game etc

All have incredibly attractive people with blood and rape and torture and people killing the ones they love and little children getting ripped to shreds "OMG so sad ;_;" content which is labeled "Mature" but it's all so skin deep and shallow with no thought or care or purpose that it seems like it's insulting your intelligence.

Going "Pete loves Jane but Pete has to rip her spine out and then rape someone then die of blood loss in a ditch." isn't deep or mature to me. Even though it's "adult" it's not sad or interesting, it's just bad writing involving fucked up shit.

FFIX seems made for children yet you can actually appreciate it as an adult .

Plus the art style is so good. From the general gameplay to the FMVs to the battle screen, it's all consistently the same world unlike a lot of RPGs of the period and the "Cartoony" style means the graphics haven't dated. Like Sonic 3 or This War of Mine or Thomas Was Alone it's pretty much future proof in terms of graphics.

I love that. I felt more emotion for The Black Mages killed on the Cargo Ship inside 90 seconds of screentime, who all look the same and have no names than I did for any dramatic character death in most games

While it's childish, I'd honestly call FFIX more mature than most 18+ rated video games I have ever personally played.

Some exceptions like Silent Hill 2, Spec Ops the Line, RDR2, This War of Mine and others but the majority, especially the mainstream, just don't tell stories with believable worlds like FF9 did. Hell the other Final Fantasies don't.
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Wedge Antilles
07/07/20 11:57:44 AM
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My favorite FF and second favorite game of all time.

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Shotgunnova
07/07/20 12:04:30 PM
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Ooo, soft.

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Blue_Target
07/07/20 1:01:16 PM
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I brought this on Steam years ago but I finally finished it during quarantine. I probably listen to this song every day since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZlJGtFGcw

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onedarksoul
07/07/20 1:07:08 PM
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Weird. Ff12 is only 14.

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Bad_Mojo
07/07/20 1:08:19 PM
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I like 10 more than 9, but I like 9 more than 8

Tactics is my best

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onedarksoul
07/07/20 1:09:40 PM
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mattymad posted...
I've never got the love for IX and I've played pretty much all major FF titles.

It's skill/equipment system is lacking compared to 7, 8 and 10, which leads the combat to being very boring (ignoring the camera spin it does before the battle starts, bleh).

It is painfully, painfully slow - in terms of pacing, animation and flow. I got to the last disk and never beat it. I had no idea what was going on, nor did I really care.
I played and beat the digital edition, for ps4 a few months ago. Try that one. It is the definitive edition. It was really quite the play.

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andri_g
07/07/20 3:39:01 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
^ Fun fact, Error once moderated me for posting that video.
Well, [Sakaguchi] was openly "incentivized" in it. :P
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Was this before or after that damned movie nearly destroyed the company?
Square was very, very busy with FF from 1999 to 2003. Releases by date **::

FF VIII: Feb. 11, 1999
FF Col. (IV, V, VI): Mar. 11, 1999 (JP only)
FF Ant. (V, VI): Sep. 30, 1999 (NA/EU only)
FF IX: Jul. 7, 2000
FF Chr. (IV, CT): Jun. 29 2001 (NA only)
FF: TSW: Jul. 11, 2001 (film; Int.)
FF X: Jul. 19, 2001
FF XI: May 16, 2002
FF I&II P. Pack. (aka, Ori.): Oct. 31, 2002
FF X-2: Mar. 13, 2003

** JP dates. For NA, ~4-8 months later; ~2 years later for FF XI.

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gunplagirl
07/07/20 9:53:37 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Go play Blue Dragon. It's a FF9 battlesystem that works, combined with a ludicrous extrapolation of FF5's job system.
I swear you said the same thing last time I posted about the battle speed of 9.

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Lathissamus
07/07/20 9:57:03 PM
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It is my favorite game of all time.


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Dark_SilverX
07/07/20 9:58:17 PM
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This is best Final Fantasy

https://youtu.be/IsWKryYOmAY

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UnicornWizard
07/07/20 10:05:29 PM
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I started FF9 a few days ago. I just got past the hunt ceremony in Lindblum.

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Lathissamus
07/08/20 6:26:12 AM
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UnicornWizard posted...
I started FF9 a few days ago. I just got past the hunt ceremony in Lindblum.
Man disk 1 is so good. The ending of disk 1 is when things start to really pick up


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Questionmarktarius
07/08/20 10:35:18 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
I swear you said the same thing last time I posted about the battle speed of 9.
Probably, yeah.
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UnfairRepresent
07/08/20 5:00:37 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I like 10 more than 9, but I like 9 more than 8

Tactics is my best

X is great too
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ThisGuyAreSick
07/08/20 5:01:48 PM
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Agreed TC happy birthday Zidane
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Reiss
07/08/20 5:03:25 PM
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not even the best game within its own series
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ThisGuyAreSick
07/08/20 5:03:58 PM
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creativerealms posted...
The best final fantasy is 29 years old.


LOL

If by best you mean literally most overrated game of all time
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garan
07/08/20 5:07:52 PM
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Most over-rated you mean. 9 has some good points, but most of the characters suck, the pacing is all over the place, the combat is slow as hell & boring.
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UnfairRepresent
07/08/20 5:16:33 PM
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garan posted...
Most over-rated you mean. 9 has some good points, but most of the characters suck, the pacing is all over the place, the combat is slow as hell & boring.

And again, another sigless user
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garan
07/08/20 5:21:57 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
And again, another sigless user


Sigs are fucking stupid just like your opinions.
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ThisGuyAreSick
07/08/20 10:04:47 PM
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garan posted...
Most over-rated you mean. 9 has some good points, but most of the characters suck, the pacing is all over the place, the combat is slow as hell & boring.


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