Current Events > Why is there so much nostalgia over Pokemon Diamond/Pearl? It's so bland.

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CRON
07/06/20 2:56:52 PM
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The Pokemon designs are forgettable, the world looks bland and dull, there aren't any memorable pieces out of its soundtrack...

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discodancer77
07/06/20 2:57:28 PM
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Platinum totally replaces D/P

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Jabodie
07/06/20 2:58:31 PM
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DP was a huge step down from RSE imo. But I imagine there are plenty of young adults that started Pokemon with gen 4 now.

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jimbiz
07/06/20 2:58:40 PM
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Emerald is so much better

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Pus_N_Pecans
07/06/20 2:59:30 PM
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It's the worst gen by far. (Other than 1)

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CRON
07/06/20 2:59:36 PM
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discodancer77 posted...
Platinum totally replaces D/P
How?

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MC_BatCommander
07/06/20 2:59:56 PM
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I think Gen 4 had great new pokemon tbh


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DiamondAndSilk
07/06/20 2:59:58 PM
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discodancer77 posted...
Platinum totally replaces D/P

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Broseph_Stalin
07/06/20 3:00:17 PM
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maybe it was zoomers first pokemon game like how millenials still think the originals were good
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Gheb
07/06/20 3:00:30 PM
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Is there nostalgia for D/P? I mean Platinum is very well received, but Diamond and Pearl are generally not super well-loved.

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CommonJoe
07/06/20 3:01:17 PM
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The games got too "anime" for me going through gens 4 thru 6 but got better with the Gen 3 remakes and Gen 7.

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jimbiz
07/06/20 3:01:21 PM
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RoadsterUFO posted...
Jimmy pls

Platinum > Emerald
Ivan please

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OffTempo
07/06/20 3:02:28 PM
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I would say Gen 4 is the best generalization of a Pokemon game.

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Paper_Okami
07/06/20 3:02:45 PM
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CRON posted...
The Pokemon designs are forgettable, the world looks bland and dull, there aren't any memorable pieces out of its soundtrack...

now this is just plain wrong
there are plenty of memorable design

and also
soundtrack lmao, really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsw4ND8HNA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpGCTUGi8o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v02ZFogqSS8&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXefFHRgyE0


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CRON
07/06/20 3:02:56 PM
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Gheb posted...
Is there nostalgia for D/P? I mean Platinum is very well received, but Diamond and Pearl are generally not super well-loved.
What's the difference? I figured Platinum just has all of the Pokemon in one version.

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Pancake
07/06/20 3:03:51 PM
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the music was super good.
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masterpug53
07/06/20 3:03:56 PM
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Cynthia, Physcial / Special split, and old 'mons getting evos were some positives. And being in Gen 4 it might be getting some nostalgia-by-association with HG/SS.

CRON posted...
there aren't any memorable pieces out of its soundtrack...

About the only tracks you could make a case for were Dialga / Palkia's theme, and Cynthia's Champion fight theme. However to this day I'm convinced that the devs switched the tracks accidentally and never admitted it, considering how much more fitting they'd have been for the respective encounters if swapped.

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Bananana
07/06/20 3:05:25 PM
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CRON posted...
What's the difference? I figured Platinum just has all of the Pokemon in one version.
It has a totally different story, the battle mechanics are much faster, and the game is all around way better.

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EmbraceOfDeath
07/06/20 3:05:39 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
maybe it was zoomers first pokemon game like how millenials still think the originals were good
This is the actual reason.

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Freddie_Mercury
07/06/20 3:06:12 PM
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_Rinku_
07/06/20 3:06:26 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
maybe it was zoomers first pokemon game like how millenials still think the originals were good
It's probably that and the fact that it sold stupidly well. According to Wikipedia, D/P/P sold more than R/S/E, FR/LG, and B/W.

CRON posted...
What's the difference? I figured Platinum just has all of the Pokemon in one version.
Have you ever played the "third" version of any of the Pokmon games? They don't have all the Pokmon, but have revamped story lines and new content usually.
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metralo
07/06/20 3:06:54 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
maybe it was zoomers first pokemon game like how millenials still think the originals were good

its this

D/P were hated on release. like actively disliked

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_Rinku_
07/06/20 3:10:02 PM
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metralo posted...
its this

D/P were hated on release. like actively disliked
I'm glad I wasn't alone in that. I hated Diamond so much that I didn't play a "new" Pokmon game until SwSh.
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CRON
07/06/20 3:11:16 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
This is the actual reason.
I'm a Millennial and I think G/S/C is significantly better than R/B/Y.

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metralo
07/06/20 3:12:22 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
I'm glad I wasn't alone in that. I hated Diamond so much that I didn't play a "new" Pokmon game until SwSh.

to be fair they fixed a lot of stuff with Platinum, but I still think the game was pretty bad. imo, its the worst Pokemon game that I've played (skipped Black/White2 and Sun/Moon)

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SF_Okami
07/06/20 3:12:31 PM
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Its the second best gen imo behind Hoenn. Platinum is the best mainline pokemon game besides Emerald.

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_Rinku_
07/06/20 3:15:28 PM
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metralo posted...
to be fair they fixed a lot of stuff with Platinum, but I still think the game was pretty bad. imo, its the worst Pokemon game that I've played (skipped Black/White2 and Sun/Moon)
I didn't even finish Diamond (couldn't get past Fantina and her damn Mismagius), so I didn't have any interest in Platinum.
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squarion
07/06/20 3:15:57 PM
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Every game after Crystal was a step down imo

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CableZL
07/06/20 3:19:40 PM
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That's the gen that started the physical/special split, which is probably my favorite change to the mechanics of the game.

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Bio1590
07/06/20 3:25:02 PM
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You know looking back on it it's pretty fucking nuts the DS/DSi had 9 mainline Pokemon games released for it when it was replaced by the 3DS after less than 6.5 years.

B2W2 being released for the original DS line despite the 3DS already being out for over a year sure was an interesting choice.

(Although if B2W2 had been 3DS games then the 3DS/2DS would have had 10 games itself...)
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ElatedVenusaur
07/06/20 3:26:54 PM
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Platinum is an easy contender for best individual pokemon game. They resolved the atrocious slowness of Diamond/Pearl, greatly expanded the selection of pokemon pre-national dex, improved and expanded on the already really good post-game area, improved the plot, and, oh yeah, they made the Distortion World, which is truly eerie.
Plus, Cynthia is easily the coolest champion.

I didn't play Emerald, so I can't comment, but the only pokemon games that felt as complete (to me) were ORAS(of course they didn't bring back soaring. In fact, I'm amazed they put in the effort to make it a thing at all!), because, again, it has a fairly extensive post-game. My one criticism is that Hoenn has a poor selection of wild pokemon naturally(comparable to Diamond/Pearl, even), which ORAS doesn't fix until just before the E4.

Let's get some more DPP music in here...

Canalave City(Night)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L9GDhoqhug

Sunnyshore City(Day)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJyd9VFVwP0

Distortion World
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Crayon_Lover
07/06/20 3:27:30 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
platinum/hgss

gen 4 da bes


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GallisOTK
07/06/20 3:30:56 PM
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Emerald, Platinum, HG/SS, and B2/W2 are the top tier of Pokemon games. Gen 1/2 are too primitive and glitchy, and gen 6 onwards are when the gameplay started going downhill and Gamefreak/TPC starting half-assing things and removing features people liked for more useless stuff.
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_Rinku_
07/06/20 3:41:40 PM
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squarion posted...
Every game after Crystal was a step down imo
This is how I feel, but I'm not sure if it's because Crystal was objectively that good or if it's because I was a highly impressionable nine year old when I played it.
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ElatedVenusaur
07/06/20 3:42:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojw-iXAeWWg
Oh yes, and technically there's this! You couldn't actually hear it in DPP, but it was used in an event for HG/SS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi6WyRP6Cog
THIS cutscene, wherein Arceus straight-up CREATES your choice of a Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina.
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ApherosyLove
07/06/20 3:43:24 PM
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CRON posted...
there aren't any memorable pieces out of its soundtrack
Lmao

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AceAttorneyist
07/06/20 3:48:04 PM
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Sometimes I listen to the D/P/P OST just for the hell of it because it's so damn good.

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AloofHermit
07/06/20 3:50:20 PM
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gen4 was the worst gen

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