Current Events > Drug screenings are outdated, ineffective and borderline discriminatory

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Grischnak posted...

Lol. Do you live in the fucking 50s or something? Post some wrongthink on Twitter or Facebook in 2020. See what happens at your job.

lol "wrongthink"

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ColdOne666 posted...

ITT drug addicts whining they cant come to work high.

Boohoo

So you advocate for people being fired for drinking while not on the job? Because thats what this actually entails.

averagejoel posted...

it is racist because it has a disproportionately large effect on poor people, and people of colour are proportionately more likely to be poor

I feel there are just as many poor white people. plenty of non poor white people smoke weed. Drugs are far from just a poor people problem. At least when talking about weed. Which weed shouldnt be a problem cause hell even the most conservative of my co workers say theyd rather deal with a dorm full of stoned inmates rather than drunk inmates. Why? Cause stoned people arent known for starting fights for petty ass reasons.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I feel there are just as many poor white people

yes, there are more poor white people in pure numbers. that's a function of white people being the majority of the population.

people of colour are more likely to be poor than white people though, which is what I was referring to

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Cinderforge posted...

Whether it's legal or not is irrelevant. No business wants employees high or drunk at work. Legalisation isn't the removal of responsibility.

Of course not, that should be grounds for termination. So long as it doesn't effect my work, stay out of my personal life. But you see, I'm the only one that never misses days at work like some of the others that drink way too much and can't come in the next day.

But I don't have to deal with that anymore since they don't drug test me, but it has held be back. Yes, I could just not smoke, but it does really benefit me. Helps me beat those inner daemons I have and keeps me from thinking horrible things keeping me up at night

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

So then why do these same employers not care about alcohol then?

They do, I mentioned that.

I do want some clarification though, being a non American, when these tests are being applied. Do you mean like for nearly every job or just for ones that really require it e.g. truck drivers etc? Because if it's for everything then I agree that it is pointless.

Cinderforge posted...

I do want some clarification though, being a non American, when these tests are being applied. Do you mean like for nearly every job or just for ones that really require it e.g. truck drivers etc? Because if it's for everything then I agree that it is pointless.

I don't know how it is anymore, but yeah, most jobs drug test. Back when I first was going to go work at my job they were drug testing for the custodian job


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averagejoel posted...

yes, there are more poor white people in pure numbers. that's a function of white people being the majority of the population.

people of colour are more likely to be poor than white people though, which is what I was referring to

.yes I knoq but you dont acknowledge the rest of the post.ya know about how weed is far from a poor people thing

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Cinderforge posted...

They do, I mentioned that.

I do want some clarification though, being a non American, when these tests are being applied. Do you mean like for nearly every job or just for ones that really require it e.g. truck drivers etc? Because if it's for everything then I agree that it is pointless.

But they don't....no you can't show up to work drunk obviously, but employers don't do anything to filter out alcoholics.

And yes here in the states, you get drug tested for everything. Even if you're applying to be a cashier at Target.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

.yes I knoq but you dont acknowledge the rest of the post.ya know about how weed is far from a poor people thing

it's a poor person's drug to almost the same extent that alcohol is -- it's inexpensive and easily accessible

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Lyrica posted...

I mean, I think employers have a right to not want to hire or retain anyone who partakes in drug use. While I do consider cocaine, PCP, etc, to be harder drugs, I'm not a fan of people who act like marijuana is a necessity.

Ahhh yes the demon of legal recreational marijuana use. Definitely want to weed those losers out in favour of some guy who gets drunk.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Smoking a joint in private =/= going on a racist rant on social media that makes your employer look bad

Lol. Who brought up racism? People get fired for all sorts of wrongthink that has nothing to do with racism. I also find it telling that you think firing people for posting something on Twitter is fine but think it's awful if people get fired for doing drugs. Oh and just so we're clear since you seem to be a fan of strawmaning people: I think if weed is legal in your area then it's pretty ridiculous if you don't get hired because of weed use. And on a personal level I don't give a fuck if you smoke weed or not. But if weed is illegal in your area then it's completely reasonable for you to not get hired for that. Employers don't want to hire active criminals. Shocking, I know.

Agreed but of course there will always be the teetotallers on CE who think having a joint or a beer on a saturday night basically makes you a villain

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Grischnak posted...

Lol. Who brought up racism? People get fired for all sorts of wrongthink that has nothing to do with racism. I also find it telling that you think firing people for posting something on Twitter is fine but think it's awful if people get fired for doing drugs. Oh and just so we're clear since you seem to be a fan of strawmaning people: I think if weed is legal in your area then it's pretty ridiculous if you don't get hired because of weed use. And on a personal level I don't give a fuck if you smoke weed or not. But if weed is illegal in your area then it's completely reasonable for you to not get hired for that. Employers don't want to hire active criminals. Shocking, I know.

what is "wrongthink" and where did you hear about it

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

And yes here in the states, you get drug tested for everything. Even if you're applying to be a cashier at Target.

Ah ok well I agree that testing for every job going is pointless and should be abolished. Certain jobs should have testing of course but if you're going to be in an office then I don't get it.

Cinderforge posted...

Ah ok well I agree that testing for every job going is pointless and should be abolished. Certain jobs should have testing of course but if you're going to be in an office then I don't get it.

I would agree that testing is important for certain professions like doctors, pilots and truckers. But I think that testing should be broader. It's not just high pilots or truckers you have to worry about. You also have to worry about ones with sleep insomnia, mental illness, emotional trauma, etc.,

The hiring process should be more involved than simply checking off a list, but employers aren't willing or are unable to dedicate that amount of time and resources.

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averagejoel posted...

what is "wrongthink" and where did you hear about it

Breitbart most likely

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averagejoel posted...

what is "wrongthink" and where did you hear about it

1984. Thoughtcrime

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TreyFlowers posted...

1984.

if someone wants to refer to a book, they should probably actually read the book first

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I was only drug tested for one job and it was for a place with strong Christian values.

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