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Zikten
06/28/20 3:14:25 PM
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that they stuck to the "vamps die in sun" thing. too many vampire shows try to find ways around it cause they don't want to film at night all the time. Twilight vampires sparkle in the sun and that's it. in Vampire Diaries every damn vampire character ends up getting a magic ring that makes them immune to the sun

there was a show like 15 years ago called like Moonlight or something, but ironically the show spent most of the time in the day. it was about a vampire that lived in in like Vegas I think. and they made a point to say that the sun doesn't hurt vampires in the first episode. Buffy stuck to it's guns and didn't try to change one of the most important parts of vampires, just to make things easier on filming
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Irony
06/28/20 3:15:48 PM
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Twilight vampires sparkle because of the author's dumb religion

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monkmith
06/28/20 3:22:32 PM
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Irony posted...
Twilight vampires sparkle because of the author's dumb religion
does that religion also cover old ass creatures fucking underage girls and dudes in general without shirts?

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Jiggy101011
06/28/20 3:25:55 PM
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Zikten posted...
that they stuck to the "vamps die in sun" thing. too many vampire shows try to find ways around it cause they don't want to film at night all the time. Twilight vampires sparkle in the sun and that's it. in Vampire Diaries every damn vampire character ends up getting a magic ring that makes them immune to the sun

there was a show like 15 years ago called like Moonlight or something, but ironically the show spent most of the time in the day. it was about a vampire that lived in in like Vegas I think. and they made a point to say that the sun doesn't hurt vampires in the first episode. Buffy stuck to it's guns and didn't try to change one of the most important parts of vampires, just to make things easier on filming

Makes it easier for them not to cake the actors in makeup to make them look like mole men.

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s0nicfan
06/28/20 3:26:46 PM
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That's why "What we do in the Shadows" is top tier vampire fiction.

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monday nitro
06/28/20 3:42:20 PM
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Although sometimes in Buffy the sunlight exposure they could take varied. some of the lesser minion vampires would burst into flames at the mere exposure, then there was Spike who would run around in the California sun with a blanket on his head.

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PMarth2002
06/28/20 3:42:31 PM
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It actually did have one of those mcguffin rings. It shows up in the 4th season and angel destroys it in one of the first episodes of his show.

monday nitro posted...
Although sometimes in Buffy the sunlight exposure they could take varied. some of the lesser minion vampires would burst into flames at the mere exposure, then there was Spike who would run around in the California sun with a blanket on his head.

I think the rule is direct exposure is instant death while shade or some sort of cover gives the Vampire a bit of time and protection. A lot of the time spike's doing that the blanket is catching fire. I'm not sure we ever see any random vampires do that because Buffy is usually just trying to kill them while she lets Spike go for whatever reason, or he gets away.

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No_U_L7
06/28/20 3:45:15 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
It actually did have one of those mcguffin rings. It shows up in the 4th season and angel destroys it in one of the first episodes of his show.

I think the rule is direct exposure is instant death while shade or some sort of cover takes a bit too occur. A lot of the time spike's doing that the blanket is catching fire. I'm not sure we ever see any random vampires do that because Buffy is usually just trying to kill them while she lets Spike go for whatever reason, or he gets away.


That was so dumb of him
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CanuckCowboy
06/28/20 3:58:38 PM
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There was also the gem of amara or whatever. Wasnt just sunlight protection though it made them invincible.

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PMarth2002
06/28/20 4:01:52 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
There was also the gem of amara or whatever. Wasnt just sunlight protection though it made them invincible.

Looked it up and thats the one I was thinking about. Been awhile since I watched either show.

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mach25687
06/28/20 4:25:06 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
There was also the gem of amara or whatever. Wasnt just sunlight protection though it made them invincible.
Wasn't that a crossover episode with Angle. Man, I love Angle.

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DeadBankerDream
06/28/20 4:32:57 PM
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Seems weird to respect a show known for being groundbreaking for it's "strict" (but not really) adherence to one aspect of vampire lore.

I guess that's what it's like when your brain is incapable of analyzing anything beyond one surface layer aspect of its whole.
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FortuneCookie
06/28/20 4:35:41 PM
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The Count Dracula of the novel did not die from sunlight, but rather lost his supernatural powers during the day. I think the Francis Ford Coppola movie might be the only one to retain this.

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CanuckCowboy
06/28/20 4:37:07 PM
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mach25687 posted...
Wasn't that a crossover episode with Angle. Man, I love Angle.

Yeah it was.

I havent seen anything beyond season 1 tbh. I made a topic when i started watching it then never started season 2 for some reason.

I gotta get back to it. Angel that is. Buffy ive seen all the way through a few times.

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No_U_L7
06/28/20 6:59:36 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...


Yeah it was.

I havent seen anything beyond season 1 tbh. I made a topic when i started watching it then never started season 2 for some reason.

I gotta get back to it. Angel that is. Buffy ive seen all the way through a few times.


angel is one of my favorite series of all time. as groundbreaking as buffy was for what it introduced into media (quippy dialog, strong female protagonist, serial storytelling), angel introduced just as much (just in a different way)
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CanuckCowboy
06/28/20 7:08:36 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
angel is one of my favorite series of all time. as groundbreaking as buffy was for what it introduced into media (quippy dialog, strong female protagonist, serial storytelling), angel introduced just as much (just in a different way)

I grew up watching buffy but never watched angel for some reason. Based off the first season it was definitely on par with buffy.

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Ricky Williams
06/28/20 7:09:38 PM
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monkmith posted...
does that religion also cover old ass creatures fucking underage girls and dudes in general without shirts?
Tbf Buffy had that too. Well both I guess.

Also in reference to Angel the series and the guy that only saw season 1, season 1 was pretty garbage, especially in comparison to the rest of the series. I would argue that each season gets progressively better. Although the whole is not as good of a series as Buffy, the final season is as good or better than any individual season of Buffy.

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No_U_L7
06/28/20 7:11:01 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...


I grew up watching buffy but never watched angel for some reason. Based off the first season it was definitely on par with buffy.


Yeah season 1 sucked, once it found its footing, season 2 and 3 are amazing, 4 is one of my all time seasons and 5 has some clunkers but was amazing
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Ricky Williams
06/28/20 7:15:04 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Yeah season 1 sucked, once it found its footing, season 2 and 3 are amazing, 4 is one of my all time seasons and 5 has some clunkers but was amazing
I only really felt like the Nazi submarine episode stunk that season, but I assume you're thinking of the luchador episode as well. As a wrestling fan / Mexican I dug that one but I can understand people not liking it.

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No_U_L7
06/28/20 7:16:00 PM
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Ricky Williams posted...

I only really felt like the Nazi submarine episode stunk that season, but I assume you're thinking of the luchador episode as well. As a wrestling fan / Mexican I dug that one but I can understand people not liking it.


That takes me back...it was way more episodic than I liked after the hyper serialized s2-4
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Ricky Williams
06/28/20 8:41:23 PM
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I suppose. I just really preferred the home base and team setup in season 5 soooo much especially when compared to Angel Investigations. The inclusion of and Angel's interactions with Spike were everything I always wanted from that show.


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CanuckCowboy
06/28/20 8:42:57 PM
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No_U_L7 posted...
Yeah season 1 sucked, once it found its footing, season 2 and 3 are amazing, 4 is one of my all time seasons and 5 has some clunkers but was amazing

Fuck. Imma watch this soon

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UnfairRepresent
06/28/20 8:43:18 PM
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TC hasn't seen the show in a long time

They cheated on that all the time.

Vampires can run around in daylight with blankets on their heads and that's fine
They can wear diving suits and that's fine
They installed vampire glass that blocks UV rays from the sun and now daylight is fine.

And so on
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KamenRiderBlade
06/28/20 8:48:58 PM
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Buffy & Angel were both awesome.

But at least the Blade Movie trilogy only limited Vampires with Sun Screen giving them a limited time out in the sun.

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Bad_Mojo
06/28/20 8:49:09 PM
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monday nitro posted...
Spike who would run around in the California sun with a blanket on his head.


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KamenRiderBlade
06/28/20 8:50:07 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
They installed vampire glass that blocks UV rays from the sun and now daylight is fine.
Anybody can buy that for their cars if they don't want to get excessive UV radiation on their skin.

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CanuckCowboy
06/28/20 8:54:55 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
TC hasn't seen the show in a long time

They cheated on that all the time.

Vampires can run around in daylight with blankets on their heads and that's fine
They can wear diving suits and that's fine
They installed vampire glass that blocks UV rays from the sun and now daylight is fine.

And so on

spikes arrival in sunnydale was awesome but the spray painted windshield was a bit silly


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No_U_L7
06/28/20 9:11:15 PM
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Ricky Williams posted...
The inclusion of and Angel's interactions with Spike were everything I always wanted from that show.


that really did elevate that season to new levels. they actually never had that much interaction before that, even despite a shared history
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pegusus123456
06/29/20 1:58:06 AM
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No_U_L7 posted...
That was so dumb of him
I get why though. If Angelus knew the ring existed, he'd have tortured and slaughtered anyone and everyone to get it.

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No_U_L7
06/29/20 2:20:02 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...

I get why though. If Angelus knew the ring existed, he'd have tortured and slaughtered anyone and everyone to get it.


That wasn't even the reason stated for destroying it...
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Guerrilla Soldier
06/29/20 2:22:11 AM
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lol remember in Blade when that vampire was out in the sun because he put on a ton of sun screen lotion

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KamenRiderBlade
06/29/20 2:24:55 AM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
lol remember in Blade when that vampire was out in the sun because he put on a ton of sun screen lotion
At least that was only for a very limited time, it wasn't that they were "Immune to the sun".

15-30 mins out in the sun before getting roasted is fair IMO.

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pegusus123456
06/29/20 2:25:06 AM
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No_U_L7 posted...
That wasn't even the reason stated for destroying it...
Damn, you're right. And his reason was stupid as fuck.

Nevermind.

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ROBANN_88
06/29/20 4:25:50 AM
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What was the reason, then?

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St0rmFury
06/29/20 4:29:41 AM
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I remember an arc in Angel where he was transported to Lorne's world and he was immune to sunlight and even had a reflection in it. Apparently it was because that world has 2 suns...
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BettyWhite
06/29/20 4:51:32 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
What was the reason, then?

Not wanting to become complacent in his duties as a champion of the night.

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BettyWhite
06/29/20 4:56:55 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
I remember an arc in Angel where he was transported to Lorne's world and he was immune to sunlight and even had a reflection in it. Apparently it was because that world has 2 suns...

Also immune to sunlight in the dimensional holding cell where Lindsey was being held. Stated to be because they are different dimensions with different rules.

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pegusus123456
06/29/20 5:01:28 AM
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Angel also turned into a feral, green horned devil-looking thing when he tried to vamp out on Pylea. The basic idea was that the human form was more human, so he had a reflection and wasn't as bloodthirsty, but the vampire form was basically a pure vampire without the human attached to it.

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mach25687
06/29/20 8:58:20 AM
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Man, this topic made me binge-watch Angel.

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Eat More Beef
06/29/20 9:36:49 AM
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Psychos? Is that what they looked like to you? Psychos? Psychos do not explode when sunlight hit's 'em. I don't give a fuck how crazy they are!

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