Current Events > TBH physical media >>> streaming services

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Besides always having access to it, there are intangible benefits to actually owning something.

Video games are basically screwed though because even though they still have "physical media" , they have huge installs now and may as well be digital media

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Yeah there isn't really a way to own physical copies of video games anymore because of the needs for patches and a number of other issues. Though I learned my lesson after Nintendo shutdown the Virtual Console and only own physical copies of old games now. I can always resell them for as much or more than I paid and I never knew how long or if digital copies will become available again (though I am always scared about my PS1 CDs being rendered unplayable by the most minor damage). I also enjoy the cases/manuals/inserts most older games have.

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meatspace is lame, upload the mind

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ssjevot posted...

Yeah there isn't really a way to own physical copies of video games anymore because of the needs for patches and a number of other issues. Though I learned my lesson after Nintendo shutdown the Virtual Console and only own physical copies of old games now. I can always resell them for as much or more than I paid and I never knew how long or if digital copies will become available again (though I am always scared about my PS1 CDs being rendered unplayable by the most minor damage). I also enjoy the cases/manuals/inserts most older games have.

I'm the same way.

We need more assets in a physical medium. Give our Games / TV Shows / Movies / Music some physicality.
Patches should only be for code and new Art Assets IMO.

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TC never uses Google and drives to the library to look something up instead

You gotta grow with the times. Physical is dying, grow and adapt to the modern ages. This is coming from someone who still has a 400+ library of VHS tapes.

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ssjevot posted...

Yeah there isn't really a way to own physical copies of video games anymore because of the needs for patches and a number of other issues. Though I learned my lesson after Nintendo shutdown the Virtual Console and only own physical copies of old games now. I can always resell them for as much or more than I paid and I never knew how long or if digital copies will become available again (though I am always scared about my PS1 CDs being rendered unplayable by the most minor damage). I also enjoy the cases/manuals/inserts most older games have.

Are you unable to play virtual console titles after the shop goes down?

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Webbernet posted...

Are you unable to play virtual console titles after the shop goes down?

I downloaded all my games to a harddrive for the Wii, but yes, you can no longer download them and there is no record of your purchases. The Wii U and 3DS are still fine, but not known for how long. This isn't just virtual console though, it's all digital Wii purchases. Of course you could modify your console and do other potentially illegal things like that for older consoles to run digital copies, but the fact that that's the only option is just kind of sad. And as a collector it doesn't really have value to me to say I modified a console to play games. It's basically the same as saying I modded my Pokemon game to have all the Pokemon, there's no satisfaction in it to me.

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can't wait for both physical media and physical currency to completely become obselete

Wait, you cant re-download them if you deleted them or cant play them even if they are still on your system?

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Lmao physical is an inconvenience for every type of media. I have more access to movies and TV shows than I ever would have before with Hulu and Netflix alone. And with the exception of vinyl, streaming music shits all over CDs.
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Personally I prefer physical 4ever, I love limited run games and such. Best ways to get otherwise digital only titles imo

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Webbernet posted...

Wait, you cant re-download them if you deleted them or cant play them even if they are still on your system?

Nope. There is no way to redownload digitally purchased Wii games legally. Wii U and 3DS are still fine for now.

I should mention so far Sony has never done anything like that or indicated they will though. Same for Microsoft.

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Once you get to a certain price difference it really doesn't matter to me.

If I gotta pay 40 bucks for a physical copy but I can get it digitally for 7, better believe I'm going digital.

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That whoever has it cheaper is getting my money

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Once you get to a certain price difference it really doesn't matter to me.

If I gotta pay 40 bucks for a physical copy but I can get it digitally for 7, better believe I'm going digital.

That's probably the weirdest part about damn near all media in Japan. Physical is almost always cheaper. The only exceptions I can think of is for old and rare things. A brand new game will always be cheaper in physical here.

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That does happen from time to time here as well.

Sometimes a company won't GAF and keep their game listed at full price basically forever on an online store.

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Look at most older cod games still 60 most of the time digital

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

That does happen from time to time here as well.

Sometimes a company won't GAF and keep their game listed at full price basically forever on an online store.

I remember PSN had a half-off sale not long ago and I was going to pick up a game and when I looked on Amazon the physical copy was still cheaper than the half-off digital price.

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ssjevot posted...

Nope. There is no way to redownload digitally purchased Wii games legally. Wii U and 3DS are still fine for now.

I should mention so far Sony has never done anything like that or indicated they will though. Same for Microsoft.

Yeah I got that, I was trying to ask if you can still play them if theyre still on your system or if there is some kind of phone home lockout @ssjevot

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Physical media and streaming service >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscription service
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Webbernet posted...

Yeah I got that, I was trying to ask if you can still play them if theyre still on your system or if there is some kind of phone home lockout @ssjevot

No definitely nothing like that on the Wii. Always online requirement only exists for some PC games as far as I know. But for the subscription stuff like Playstation Now, Games with Gold, the NES/SNES games on Switch you have to be online (though there is some download and play offline option like Netflix has for Playstation Now anyway).

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Torrenting

which isnt illegal btw if you clown ass mf try some shit on me

Yes it's entirely legal to download a torrent if you initially bought the product. Even an email document of purchase makes it legal. Games and media exist forever in torrents.

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ssjevot posted...

No definitely nothing like that on the Wii. Always online requirement only exists for some PC games as far as I know. But for the subscription stuff like Playstation Now, Games with Gold, the NES/SNES games on Switch you have to be online (though there is some download and play offline option like Netflix has for Playstation Now anyway).

It was required for final fantasy on the Ouya and some other ouya games at least. A lot of my games revered to demos when the server went down,


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MabusIncarnate posted...

Yes it's entirely legal to download a torrent if you initially bought the product. Even an email document of purchase makes it legal. Games and media exist forever in torrents.

I mean you might find it morally justifiable (I don't care one way or the other if someone did or didn't purchase something they play), but I think in most countries that would still be quite illegal.

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Webbernet posted...

It was required for final fantasy on the Ouya and some other ouya games at least. A lot of my games revered to demos when the server went down,

I honestly forgot that thing existed. I think it got the mobile port of Final Fantasy III on it. I remember being surprised they got Square Enix to support it.


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Webbernet posted...

It was required for final fantasy on the Ouya and some other ouya games at least. A lot of my games revered to demos when the server went down,

Ouch, another person burned when Digital Services go away forever.

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ssjevot posted...

That's probably the weirdest part about damn near all media in Japan. Physical is almost always cheaper. The only exceptions I can think of is for old and rare things. A brand new game will always be cheaper in physical here.

That's the aspect of Japan that I love.

I wish we could have that everywhere worldwide.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

That's the aspect of Japan that I love.

I wish we could have that everywhere worldwide.

You like paying $60 for a movie? $40 for a CD? I mean outside of games and especially books (it's insane how cheap books are) media isn't that cheap here.

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ssjevot posted...

You like paying $60 for a movie? $40 for a CD?

I don't like that part. I like the concept of everything being sold on Physical Media.

I like US pricing for Movies / TV series.

I mean outside of games and especially books (it's insane how cheap books are) media isn't that cheap here.

I want everything on Physical Media to be "Cheap" and accessible to everybody.

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What's funny is burning/ripping media isn't illegal in Japan so rental stores are really popular here and they sell the blank CD/DVD/Blu-Ray discs right at the counter. The rental fee actually goes to the media companies as well. It's an interesting niche.

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ssjevot posted...

I honestly forgot that thing existed. I think it got the mobile port of Final Fantasy III on it. I remember being surprised they got Square Enix to support it.

I believe it was more like the ds version. It was way too nice to be mobile.

Anyway Im not saying the best reason to get an ouya was for emulation or that I played Mother 3 on it. Mother 3 is great though.

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The mobile version is based on the DS version but works on one screen. It also got ported to Steam.

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Oh, was it? I didn't realize, I'd seen some of the other mobile versions of FF games that looked a lot different.

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There's nothing wrong with digital media inherently, in fact in many ways it's better than physical media.

But so much digital media has DRM which makes it very much worse than physical media.

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blu rays look way better than streaming

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if digital was 40-50 instead of 60 since we dont get a disc and case it would be great tbh