Current Events > Anyone who thinks any plant based meat is good for you is delusional

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InYourWalls1 posted...

My hair is luscious thank you very much

But yeah, I don't think people eat Beyond Burgers and the like for their health benefits, ditto for fast food etc. Someone who's eating plant-based for their health will generally already be avoiding overly processed foods, though of course there are always exceptions

Ive seen tons of vegans and vegetarians who say meat is terrible for you and eat nothing but Beyond Meat/Impossible Meat.

There are people out there who think all meat is bad for you. Sure, certain animals are definitely healthier than others...but a lot of vegans and vegetarians really believe that.

Theyre convinced they feel better because theyre not eating meat anymore. When in reality, they feel better because theyre not eating tons of shit anymore.

The vegan diet is like keto in my opinion. It helps people clean of their shitty diets where they eat nothing but junk food.

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Frolex posted...

Yeah, thought so. Don't worry hunny bunny, there are plenty of safe spaces outside of CE that won't question your inability to prove your claims.

My claims arent made by me. Theyre made by tons of research from the past 20 years.

If you feel its not accurate, youre more than welcome to do the research yourself. I already have.

But I could care less what you do, tbh

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ASithLord7 posted...

Im saying its not why most people eat it

And I never said thats why people eat it. The people that think its healthy are delusional, hence the topic title.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

My claims arent made by me.

Yes, they are. That's how a claim works. Looks like your english ability is about on par with your nutritional knowledge.

MFBKBass5 posted...

If you feel its not accurate, youre more than welcome to do the research yourself. I already have.

Not how the burden of proof works. It'd be nice if it did and I could say everything I want to believe is true without the need for actual proof (as you have chosen to do) but that's life.

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Frolex posted...

Yes, they are. That's how a claim works. Looks like your english ability is about on par with your nutritional knowledge.

Not how the burden of proof works. It'd be nice if it did and I could say everything I want to believe is true without the need for actual proof (as you have chosen to do) but that's life.

This isnt a court room, its gamefaqs.

if you dont believe me look it up. Glad to see youre so triggered by a post on a video game website lololol

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MFBKBass5 posted...

This isnt a court room, its gamefaqs.

Court rooms aren't the only place you should actually have proof before you believe something

MFBKBass5 posted...

if you dont believe me look it up. Glad to see youre so triggered by a post on a video game website lololol

This is just me picking on an easy target

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Frolex posted...

Court rooms aren't the only place you should actually have proof before you believe something

This is just me picking on an easy target

This is GameFAQS

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MFBKBass5 posted...

This is GameFAQS

Great place to find people to pick on

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MFBKBass5 posted...

This is GameFAQS

And people here are even more skeptical than the real world, so I've no reason to believe your claim just because you say it's true.

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Funkydog posted...

And people here are even more skeptical than the real world, so I've no reason to believe your claim just because you say it's true.

Thats cool. You dont have to believe me, but the research speaks for itself. Continue to be ignorant then, my friend :)

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What does the research say about man-made climate change?

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Does TC not believe in climate change or something? People keep bringing it up lol

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

Does TC not believe in climate change or something? People keep bringing it up lol

No idea why they keep bringing it up lol.

are there people out there who truly dont believe climate change is real? Lol

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Thats cool. You dont have to believe me, but the research speaks for itself. Continue to be ignorant then, my friend :)

Still missing the point, think it's on purpose.

And anyway, most of us don't eat meat for other reasons than health, but moral reasons. Sure, will get some vegans who make claims on top of that, but it largely comes down to not supporting the inhumane practises of the meat industry.

But just like anyone else, vegans can be lazy and still eat processed crap.

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Funkydog posted...

Still missing the point, think it's on purpose.

And anyway, most of us don't eat meat for other reasons than health, but moral reasons. Sure, will get some vegans who make claims on top of that, but it largely comes down to not supporting the inhumane practises of the meat industry.

But just like anyone else, vegans can be lazy and still eat processed crap.

Again, did you not read the topic title? Im talking specifically about the healthiness of Beyond Meat.

I guess youre used to having to defend yourself for being vegan lol. Im not bashing vegans, just this beyond meat shit specifically.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Again, did you not read the topic title? Im talking specifically about the healthiness of Beyond Meat.

I guess youre used to having to defend yourself for being vegan lol. Im not bashing vegans, just this beyond meat shit specifically.

I don't eat beyond meat as not even sold near me. And so what if isn't the healthiest thing around. 99% food people eat isn't terribly healthy, or cooked in poor ways. This is just another one of the many, many unhealthy things.

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I dont get why a vegan would want to eat a thing that reminds them of a thing they dont want to eat

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Funkydog posted...

I don't eat beyond meat as not even sold near me. And so what if isn't the healthiest thing around. 99% food people eat isn't terribly healthy, or cooked in poor ways. This is just another one of the many, many unhealthy things.

Agreed. Im just seeing this company rise in popularity a ton. They sell it at my grocery store in the same exact packaging as real meat, and try to make it look like the same exact product. Its so strange.

Even fast food is adding it to their menus. Burger King has the impossible whopper.

Today actually, Starbucks added a breakfast sammich with impossible sausage.

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R1masher posted...

I dont get why a vegan would want to eat a thing that reminds them of a thing they dont want to eat

Because theyre humans, and humans are omnivores. Eating meat is natural to us, so when you dont eat it...you still want it. Its part of our DNA.

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R1masher posted...

I dont get why a vegan would want to eat a thing that reminds them of a thing they dont want to eat

Because they dont want to kill animals but still want a burger? Fuck what a dumb post

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R1masher posted...

I dont get why a vegan would want to eat a thing that reminds them of a thing they dont want to eat

It tastes nice and has a nice texture. If you can get them without the animal cruelty, why wouldn't you?

MFBKBass5 posted...

Even fast food is adding it to their menus. Burger King has the impossible whopper.

Today actually, Starbucks added a breakfast sammich with impossible sausage.

I say good, honestly.

Places here in the UK have been doing similar, and while I don't imagine all these pastry/coffee/fast food places are particularly healthy, a greater demand and acceptance for veganism is a good thing in my book. Has to start somewhere, and if can show them is a viable market then more places will want to get in on it and provide competition of their own with more none meat substitutes being developed.

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I hope cultured meat becomes available to the public in the near future. Basically infinite meat will be available without having to breed/kill insane amounts of livestock. Everybody wins.

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Aressar posted...

I hope cultured meat becomes available to the public in the near future. Basically infinite meat will be available without having to breed/kill insane amounts of livestock. Everybody wins.

Ive heard a bit about that. Lab grown actual meat, right?

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Ive heard a bit about that. Lab grown actual meat, right?

Indeed. I know the Dutch company Mosa Meat that develops it is even ready to produce and supply it to various restaurants, but last I heard they're currently being blocked by the European food inspection authorities. Effectively, cultured meat is still in the R&D phase so far.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat

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ASithLord7 posted...

Because they dont want to kill animals but still want a burger? Fuck what a dumb post

relax, its not as dumb as youd like to think

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saspa posted...

I mean... wanna say why or...?

Huh just googled and apparently it's soy meat. Yeah I'm not a fan of soy, have no intention of doing it in my life time. But otherwise I don't see the problem.

Also beans and lentils are basically my new favorite food, they go great with meat and veggies.

You know you eat soy evey day, right?

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Aressar posted...

Indeed. I know the Dutch company Mosa Meat that develops it is even ready to produce and supply it to various restaurants, but last I heard they're currently being blocked by the European food inspection authorities. Effectively, cultured meat is still in the R&D phase so far.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat

Interesting. Look at this pic of a cultured meat burger from 2013-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat#/media/File%3AFirst_cultured_hamburger_baked.png

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Interesting. Look at this pic of a cultured meat burger from 2013-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat#/media/File%3AFirst_cultured_hamburger_baked.png

According to test eaters, it tastes like the real thing (unlike the vast majority of meat substitutes), because essentially it is the real thing. At the moment it's still mostly limited to burgers and mince, though that alone could significantly scale back the bio industry, due to a much lesser demand for livestock to slaughter, and thus resulting in less pollution as well. So far there is no indication that there are (additional) health risks, so I believe cultures meat is the perfect balance between meat-eaters and principled vegetarians.

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Aressar posted...

According to test eaters, it tastes like the real thing (unlike the vast majority of meat substitutes), because essentially it is the real thing. At the moment it's still mostly limited to burgers and mince, though that alone could significantly scale back the bio industry. So far there is no indication that there are (additional) health risks, so I believe cultures meat is the perfect balance between meat-eaters and principled vegetarians.

I wonder if vegans or vegetarians would eat it?

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I don't know a single person that thinks Beyond Meat or the equivalent is good for them. Being good for you isnt the point of the product.
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MFBKBass5 posted...

I wonder if vegans or vegetarians would eat it?

Theyd lose virtue signaling bragging rights.

this is why they opposed Burger Kings impossible burger

TopKekBro posted...

Theyd lose virtue signaling bragging rights.

this is why they opposed Burger Kings impossible burger

Well, vegans would oppose the impossible whopper because it has cheese and other animal products.

But vegetarians opposed it? I hadnt seen any of that honestly

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MFBKBass5 posted...

I wonder if vegans or vegetarians would eat it?

That's up to them. There are probably some who won't eat meat/animal products, period. Others would probably eat meat, provided no animals are harmed. In any case, vegans/vegetarians would prefer cultured meat becomes the status quo over how it is right now.

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I don't understand why these beyond beef things aren't more mushroom-based. Mushrooms are one of the easiest foods in the world to grow (outside of morels) and are much more sustainable than most vegan foods.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Its a mash up of soy with tons of oils
like canola oil, which has been proven to be terrible for the human body. Heres whats in Beyond Meat

Water, Pea Protein*, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Natural Flavors, Cocoa Butter, Mung Bean Protein, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Apple Extract, Pomegranate Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vinegar, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Lecithin, Beet Juice Extract (for color).

>says there's a bunch of soy
>no soy listed at all

Also this reeks of chemophobia. I mean, here's what's in a "banana"
https://jameskennedymonash.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/ingredients-of-a-banana-poster-4.jpeg

casio_guy posted...

I don't understand why these beyond beef things aren't more mushroom-based. Mushrooms are one of the easiest foods in the world to grow (outside of morels) and are much more sustainable than most vegan foods.

Macros, I imagine. One of the premises of beyond meat is a level of protein/fat similar to meat.
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philsov posted...

Also this reeks of chemophobia. I mean, here's what's in a "banana"
https://jameskennedymonash.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/ingredients-of-a-banana-poster-4.jpeg

Its not even close to the same as that banana analogy. The list of ingredients I posted is directly from the Beyond Meat website.

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philsov posted...

Macros, I imagine. One of the premises of beyond meat is a level of protein/fat similar to meat.

i don't know a ton about it, but there's stuff called mycoprotein which is about 15g protein per 100g of food. it's what i ate when i was vegetarian. it helped a lot more than anything else (this was before beyond meat so i can't comment on that) but i also quickly realized that not eating meat isn't sustainable for me since i'm 6'2" and ~220 pounds but was close to 170 during my years as a vegetarian. i looked like an alien, shit was so gross. jumped back to 200 and fairly muscular almost immediately after putting meat back into my diet.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

I wonder if vegans or vegetarians would eat it?

Why wouldn't we? The issue is the treatment/killing of animals. If no animals are harmed then... there's no issue.

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MFBKBass5 posted...

Theres plenty of literature out there on why canola oil is bad for you.

No, there's plenty of literature on why excessive canola oil is bad for you. You've provided no evidence that plant based meat has excessive canola oil.

Depends on what you mean by worse. And by typical fast food. Tons of fast food joints actually use pretty good quality beef for their burgers.

Even McDonalds now has fresh beef from what Ive heard. Wendys beef is good. Same with In n Out and Whataburger.

Using "fresh beef" (or good quality beef)to mean healthy is pretty low standard for healthy.