Current Events > People are starting to realize the media are a bunch of manipulative people

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When the rona first hit media was like "don't go out you gonna kill your grandma".

Then the protests happened and media was like "get out there and protest".

Now media is trying to get back on that rona hype again. Sorry fuckers, won't work this time.

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

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Intelligent people have known this for near 20 years.

Was the media really like "get out there and protest"?

They covered the protests but don't remember seeing MSM telling people to get out there.

High-karma low-AMP account topic

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ThunderTrain posted...

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

So... you think the media is perfectly objective... no politics are involved at all?!

MachineJaipur posted...

Was the media really like "get out there and protest"?

They covered the protests but don't remember seeing MSM telling people to get out there.

I don't remember a single warning of the media discussing the dangers of coronavirus when the protests started. They backed off hard.

True

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jfc is the average brain on CE not capable of understanding context? With Corona, it was "don't go outside unless you HAVE to". which is why grocery stores and gas stations remained open. When the protests happened, the sentiment wasn't "Corona is no longer dangerous", it was "this is important enough. we can't let cops keep getting away with blatant murder". Even then, many protesters, the majority of, wore masks.

I swear some on this site (mostly those who represent the conservative voice) can't seem to understand basic things unless its broken down word for word for them.

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Awesome posted...

Intelligent people have known this for near 20 years.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Even then, many protesters, the majority of, wore masks.

Which is nearly irrelevant, because a mask is not sufficient when being within 7 inches of thousands of people.

the use of a mask alone is insufficient to provide an adequate level of protection
Individuals without respiratory symptoms should: avoid groups of people and enclosed, crowded spaces
https://apps.who.int/iris/handle/10665/331493

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ThunderTrain posted...

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Lol no it's not. That shit is exactly what happened.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

jfc is the average brain on CE not capable of understanding context? With Corona, it was "don't go outside unless you HAVE to". which is why grocery stores and gas stations remained open. When the protests happened, the sentiment wasn't "Corona is no longer dangerous", it was "this is important enough. we can't let cops keep getting away with blatant murder". Even then, many protesters, the majority of, wore masks.

I swear some on this site (mostly those who represent the conservative voice) can't seem to understand basic things unless its broken down word for word for them.

This will be ignored, because they want to pretend like they have a point.

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Bleuets posted...

Then the protests happened and media was like "get out there and protest".

What media are we talking about, MSM was most certainly not saying this. From what I've seen they overwhelmingly have focused on the looting aspect.

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karlpilkington4 posted...

Which is nearly irrelevant, because a mask is not sufficient when being within 7 inches of thousands of people.

And unfortunately we got to the point in this country where people had to choose to risk that potential illness to demand people not be murdered by cops. your priorities are backwards.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

And unfortunately we got to the point in this country where people had to choose to risk that potential illness to demand people not be murdered by cops. your priorities are backwards.

People can risk their life for whatever they want. The issue is when they risk other people's lives. You conveniently ignored that part.

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/protests-covid-outdoor-masks.html
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karlpilkington4 posted...

People can risk their life for whatever they want. The issue is when they risk other people's lives. You conveniently ignored that part.

I didnt ignore any part. The people who were part of those protests all chose to be there and felt that this issue was worth taking the risk. You just are against it because it doesnt jive with your cops are innocent angels narrative. I noticed you didnt seem to care this much when it was Trump supporters calling a mask suggestion communism.

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karlpilkington4 posted...

Which is nearly irrelevant, because a mask is not sufficient when being within 7 inches of thousands of people.

Its amazing how they don't understand this. All of a sudden, wearing a mask makes them bullet-proof from corona.

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ThunderTrain posted...

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

i dont think i saw a single news outlet saying "go out and protest!"... well, i guess fox news pretty much said as much when they were covering the stay at home order protests, but its hard to call them a news outlet...

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yep the media likes losing money because the economy is tanking because they want people to not go outside

yep
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onedarksoul posted...

Its amazing how they don't understand this. All of a sudden, wearing a mask makes them bullet-proof from corona.

When tens of thousands of people hit the streets protesting the police killing of George Floyd, many worried that the crowdsoften too dense to allow the recommended 6 feet of social distancingwould spark a new wave of COVID-19 cases. Yet in New York, city and state officials tell me, there have been no spikes of the illness.

Nor have there been sudden surges in several other cities where large demonstrations were held, including Minneapolis, where Floyd was killed and the first protests erupted, and Philadelphia. Spikes have occurred elsewhereespecially Texas, Arizona, Florida, and Californiabut they coincided with the reopening of bars, restaurants, and other indoor establishments, making it hard to trace the upticks to the protests.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

felt that this issue was worth taking the risk

now do the people who were protesting to have businesses opened up again during lockdown because the risk of going bankrupt was greater than the threat of the virus. or does that not count because it doesn't suit your narrative?

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EvalAngell posted...

now do the people who were protesting to have businesses opened up again during lockdown because the risk of going out of business was greater than the threat of the virus. or does that not count?

businesses losing money are not human rights violations

sorry
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

businesses losing money are not human rights violations

sorry

pursuit of happiness and someone's own livelihood is absolutely a human right. try again.

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EvalAngell posted...

now do the people who were protesting to have businesses opened up again during lockdown because the risk of going out of business was greater than the threat of the virus. or does that not count because it doesn't suit your narrative?

Do you know what priorities are? Im sorry but I dont think opening up early and acting like everything is back to normal was the right move at all. Those families are still alive, Im sure theyre still eating. You know who isnt? George Floyd.

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The media is lying

The government is lying

They are all lying, but people just eat it up

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EvalAngell posted...

pursuit of happiness and someone's own livelihood is absolutely a human right. try again.

whatever mantra you want to disguise with businesses losing money is not going to be on the same level as government funded fascists and basically terrorists that murder and mistreat its citizens, most of them on the account of their race

so uh, shut the fuck up
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...

whatever mantra you want to disguise with businesses losing money is not going to be on the same level as government funded fascists and basically terrorists that murder and mistreat its citizens, most of them on the account of their race

so uh, shut the fuck up

none of this is going on. get a grip.

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EvalAngell posted...

none of this is going on. get a grip.

lmfao
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TheVipaGTS posted...

You know who isnt? George Floyd

now do Tony Timpa.

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EvalAngell posted...

now do Tony Timpa.

Yes, police brutality is bad

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IMNOTRAGED posted...

Yes, police brutality is bad

not what the protests are about but OK.

something, something systematic racism.

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EvalAngell posted...

now do Tony Timpa.

What about him? Add that to the list of reasons why people felt this risk was bigger than The risk of opening up A business early. Do you really care about Tony Timpa or are you just trying to get me? Because that only helps what Im saying.

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not trying to get you. just exposing the double standard between:

Protests against racial injustice - OK
Protests against government overreach - Not OK

Does COVID know the difference?

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EvalAngell posted...

not what the protests are about but OK.

something, something systematic racism.

Don't know what makes you think it's not about both

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EvalAngell posted...

not trying to get you. just exposing the double standard between:

Protests against racial injustice - OK
Protests against government overreach - Not OK

Does COVID know the difference?

no but humans know the difference. I never once said Covid wont affect protesters of any kind. Just like it doesnt know the difference between shopping for groceries and shopping for video games. Im all for business owners being able to open their businesses up again, but its not on the same level of priority as police brutality and murder. The former might have to struggle a bit (conservatives would say should have saved more boot straps but I dont believe in that) but Im sure theyll be able to work it out or at least theyll be alive to. Its also only been 6 months vs decades of unchecked cases of People killed by cops. Its not like this happened after only Floyd. Spare me the tears of a small business owner not being able to live after having to be closed for 6 months vs George Floyds daughter not having a father to support her anymore for the rest of her life.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

no but humans know the difference. I never once said Covid wont affect protesters of any kind. Just like it doesnt know the difference between shopping for groceries and shopping for video games. Im all for business owners being able to open their businesses up again, but its not on the same level of priority as police brutality and murder. The former might have to struggle a bit (conservatives would say should have saved more boot straps but I dont believe in that) but Im sure theyll be able to work it out or at least theyll be alive to. Its also only been 6 months vs decades of unchecked cases of People killed by cops. Its not like this happened after only Floyd. Spare me the tears of a small business owner not being able to live after having to be closed for 6 months vs George Floyds daughter not having a father to support her anymore for the rest of her life.

And covid knows the difference. Nothing in that post but rationalization.

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onedarksoul posted...

And covid knows the difference. Nothing in that post but rationalization.

well you obviously didn't read my post so...

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we know the media controls our lives and there's not really anything we can do about it
we willingly let ourselves be controlled
thats why we keep consuming it

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TheVipaGTS posted...

jfc is the average brain on CE not capable of understanding context? With Corona, it was "don't go outside unless you HAVE to". which is why grocery stores and gas stations remained open. When the protests happened, the sentiment wasn't "Corona is no longer dangerous", it was "this is important enough. we can't let cops keep getting away with blatant murder". Even then, many protesters, the majority of, wore masks.

I swear some on this site (mostly those who represent the conservative voice) can't seem to understand basic things unless its broken down word for word for them.

I would have actually been okay with the "hey protests are important enough that it's worth the risk."

However, that's not what actually happened. There was pretty much the "protests are okay, they won't cause corona rates to spike." If anything, people contracting the virus was actually covered up (see: no contact tracing for those at protests). So yes, I'm okay with the "it's important enough to protest" but I'm not okay with the "protests don't cause the virus." And that's exactly the bullshit we got.

Bleuets posted...

"protests are okay, they won't cause corona rates to spike."

where did you see that?

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TheVipaGTS posted...

no but humans know the difference. I never once said Covid wont affect protesters of any kind. Just like it doesnt know the difference between shopping for groceries and shopping for video games. Im all for business owners being able to open their businesses up again, but its not on the same level of priority as police brutality and murder. The former might have to struggle a bit (conservatives would say should have saved more boot straps but I dont believe in that) but Im sure theyll be able to work it out or at least theyll be alive to. Its also only been 6 months vs decades of unchecked cases of People killed by cops. Its not like this happened after only Floyd. Spare me the tears of a small business owner not being able to live after having to be closed for 6 months vs George Floyds daughter not having a father to support her anymore for the rest of her life.

I'm with you, these protests are important. However, you or I don't get to decide what's important and what's worth the risk to people. By saying the protests are okay, we are basically saying "the risk is worth it for things important to people." We can say that, but we can't say what's important to people.

TheVipaGTS posted...

where did you see that? Here is CNN literally reporting the opposite.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/health/cdc-protesters-tested-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/no-evidence-that-protests-have-caused-a-coronavirus-surge.html

Bleuets posted...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/no-evidence-that-protests-have-caused-a-coronavirus-surge.html

That simply says there was no evidence, came out well after the protest and, its not telling people that they can't get it. And yes, some idiots will report stupid things. the media as a whole was pretty adamant about caution with regard to Corona. I'd take CNN over the "intelligencer" blog.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

That simply says there was no evidence, came out well after the protest and, its not telling people that they can't get it. And yes, some idiots will report stupid things. the media as a whole was pretty adamant about caution with regard to Corona. I'd take CNN over the "intelligencer" blog.

True. The point is, some news stories are reporting this. Which is in line with my original post that the media is manipulative.

Bleuets posted...

When the rona first hit media was like "don't go out you gonna kill your grandma".

Then the protests happened and media was like "get out there and protest".

Now media is trying to get back on that rona hype again. Sorry fuckers, won't work this time.

Then you realize all the above is just what conservative media told you the "liberal media" said. To distract you from the fact that conservative media irresponsibly promoted HCQ, antagonized healthcare workers and unflinchingly defended Trump when he clearly had no idea what he was doing.

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Bleuets posted...

True. The point is, some news stories are reporting this. Which is in line with my original post that the media is manipulative.

i mean its in line if you ignore reality, sure.Some random bloggers saying it doesn't mean MSM told people "GO OUT YOU CAN'T GET CORONA"...MSM almost all told people to be careful and warned of the potential of a spike.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

i mean its in line if you ignore reality, sure.Some random bloggers saying it doesn't mean MSM told people "GO OUT YOU CAN'T GET CORONA"...MSM almost all told people to be careful and warned of the potential of a spike.

Except for FNC, where Jeanine Pirro literally stated that people should go out and do what they want, because Big Brother is bad.

And Hannity / Ingraham who kept defending hydroxychloroquine even when it became clear that the benefits outweighed the risks. Ingraham literally cited a 5 person study from a medical school and ended with "take that, liberals."

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