Current Events > US stockpile stuck with 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine

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BlueTigerLion
06/17/20 7:54:40 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/17/health/hydroxychloroquine-national-stockpile/index.html

The federal government is stuck with 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine now that the US Food and Drug Administration has revoked permission for the drug to be distributed to treat coronavirus patients. The government started stockpiling donated hydroxychloroquine in late March, after President Trump touted it as "very encouraging" and "very powerful" and a "game-changer." But Monday, the FDA revoked its emergency use authorization to use the drug to treat Covid-19, saying there was "no reason to believe" the drug was effective against the virus, and that it increased the risk of side effects, including heart problems. That leaves the Strategic National Stockpile with 63 million doses of hydroxychloroquine, plus another 2 million doses of chloroquine, a related drug donated by Bayer, according to Carol Danko, a spokesperson for the US Department of Health and Human Services.

Many public health experts point to all of this as an unfortunate chapter in the history of the pandemic thus far. "Nationally, we put a great emphasis on one drug, hydroxychloroquine," said David Holtgrave, the dean of the School of Public Health at the University at Albany, who co-authored a study of the drug as a treatment for coronavirus. "I worry that history will judge this as having over-invested in one treatment pathway as opposed to looking more broadly at a larger number of treatment candidates."

That money could have been spent on a second stimulus check.

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BudDupree48
06/17/20 7:55:32 PM
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l o l

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MachineJaipur
06/17/20 7:58:22 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
"Nationally, we put a great emphasis on one drug, hydroxychloroquine,"
No, one person did and a bunch of idiots followed suit.

However didn't this drug have other uses? Could provide that for cheap or free to those other people in need.

but ofc that won't happen
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Questionmarktarius
06/17/20 7:58:33 PM
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If anything, this is a decent little model showing how command economies are always a mess.
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TheMikh
06/17/20 7:59:21 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If anything, this is a decent little model showing how command economies are always a mess.
nailed it

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Weezy_Tha_Don
06/17/20 7:59:36 PM
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Trump stays winning

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/17/20 8:00:34 PM
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You're welcome malaria victims

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Mike_Stanton
06/17/20 8:00:59 PM
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Typical FDA blocking useful treatment.

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MachineJaipur
06/17/20 8:01:51 PM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
Typical FDA blocking useful treatment.
>FDA says not useful treatment
>"FDA is blocking useful treatment"

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Mike_Stanton
06/17/20 8:02:46 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
>FDA says not useful treatment
>"FDA is blocking useful treatment"

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What the FDA says and what actually is are two different things.

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Blue_Inigo
06/17/20 8:03:11 PM
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That money could have been used on literally anything else

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MachineJaipur
06/17/20 8:07:51 PM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
What the FDA says and what actually is are two different things.
So what smoking gun evidence do you have that it is useful treatment that the scientists at the FDA don't have? If they felt it was a useful treatment then they'd say so or give it some lip service "it shows promise but more tests need to be done"
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Mike_Stanton
06/17/20 8:08:53 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
scientists at the FDA
Haha good one.

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Jiek_Fafn
06/17/20 8:09:04 PM
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Does Africa need it? I know they have big issues with malaria. Would be better than letting it sit.

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Questionmarktarius
06/17/20 8:09:25 PM
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About 30 years from now:
"...believed to be linked to secret army experiments from the 2020s"
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cmiller4642
06/17/20 8:09:29 PM
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Hydroxychloroquine is being given out at the Tulsa rally
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MachineJaipur
06/17/20 8:09:37 PM
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Jiek_Fafn posted...
Does Africa need it? I know they have big issues with malaria. Would be better than letting it sit.
Won't happen while Trump is in office and "America First" is the agenda
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onedarksoul
06/17/20 8:09:46 PM
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...And big pharma smiled a great smile.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/17/20 8:16:01 PM
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It's also used as a treatment for lupus and arthritis, and now those people are having trouble getting it because so much of it has been earmarked for Trump's COVID fantasy.
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MachineJaipur
06/17/20 8:19:14 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Donald Trump you mean. He makes money off this. Why do you think he pushed it so hard
How does he make money off of it? Selling it back to pharma companies?
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Ruvan22
06/17/20 8:35:03 PM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
Haha good one.

It's not a joke? The FDA employs (among others) lots of scientists.

Also, what is your source that hydroxychloroquine is effective/should be used for COVID?

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Bishop9800
06/17/20 8:37:07 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
It's not a joke? The FDA employs (among others) lots of scientists.

Also, what is your source that hydroxychloroquine is effective/should be used for COVID?

@Mike_Stanton


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monkmith
06/17/20 8:38:02 PM
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simple solution, give it to trump and his supporters.

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Odoylerules
06/17/20 8:39:11 PM
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Art
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TreyFlowers
06/17/20 8:46:23 PM
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lmao

also don't respond to butters seriously he's been trolling here for 15 years

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MachineJaipur
06/17/20 8:46:38 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
He had stocks in the companies distributing it. Why else do you think he pushed it so hard if not to benefit those companies?
Wouldn't this be a clear conflict of interest and illegal for a sitting President to engage in?
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Tyranthraxus
06/17/20 8:50:20 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
How does he make money off of it? Selling it back to pharma companies?

Kushner owns pharmaceutical companies and the purchases were probably made from his shit at least partially.

You're thinking really small in the scope of "he profits"

It's not always about your personal bank account, it's about making it so that you and your friends get all the food at the top of the mountain while everyone else fights for scraps in the crags.

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NinjaWarrior455
06/17/20 8:58:25 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
Wouldn't this be a clear conflict of interest and illegal for a sitting President to engage in?
When has that stopped this administration?

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Fenrimis
06/17/20 9:01:17 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Many public health experts point to all of this as an unfortunate chapter in the history of the pandemic thus far. "Nationally, we put a great emphasis on one drug, hydroxychloroquine," said David Holtgrave, the dean of the School of Public Health at the University at Albany, who co-authored a study of the drug as a treatment for coronavirus. "I worry that history will judge this as having over-invested in one treatment pathway as opposed to looking more broadly at a larger number of treatment candidates."

That money could have been spent on a second stimulus check.
Ayyyyy thats my alma mater

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LeperMessiahXX
06/17/20 9:05:50 PM
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And this is why my mom twice had trouble getting her full script filled on time. These meds are needed by people, and they were taken away from them because a person with no medical degree had a hunch. At least now I won't be having these problems.
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Ruvan22
06/17/20 9:12:57 PM
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TreyFlowers posted...
lmao

also don't respond to butters seriously he's been trolling here for 15 years

Which one is butters?
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P4wn4g3
06/17/20 9:20:29 PM
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MachineJaipur posted...
Wouldn't this be a clear conflict of interest and illegal for a sitting President to engage in?
100% of things done in the Trump presidency have been done to make the Trump family money. Coke head mitch ain't stopping it so nobody cares.

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DarkRoast
06/17/20 9:22:21 PM
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We knew basically from the beginning that it wasn't showing much, if any, benefit. It was so irritating to admit patients who specifically requested it. I had more than one patient actually call Patient Advocacy on me because I wouldn't order it (they both already had prolonged QT interval).

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DirkDiggles
06/17/20 9:23:34 PM
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lol @ butters.

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P4wn4g3
06/17/20 9:23:46 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
We knew basically from the beginning that it wasn't showing much, if any, benefit. It was so irritating to admit patients who specifically requested it. I had more than one patient actually call Patient Advocacy on me because I wouldn't order it (they both already had prolonged QT interval).
Didn't you vote for all of this lol

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DarkRoast
06/17/20 9:25:50 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Didn't you vote for all of this lol

No, I didn't vote for Trump. I voted Libertarian, though in retrospect I should've voted Clinton.


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DarkRoast
06/17/20 9:26:34 PM
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LeperMessiahXX posted...
And this is why my mom twice had trouble getting her full script filled on time. These meds are needed by people, and they were taken away from them because a person with no medical degree had a hunch. At least now I won't be having these problems.

And a rabid fanbase that literally created conspiracies about physicians to explain why we didn't want to prescribe it.

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P4wn4g3
06/17/20 9:27:22 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
No, I didn't vote for Trump. I voted Libertarian, though in retrospect I should've voted Clinton.
Did you vote for the republican house and senate? Or just any dipshit that could have pointed out he was selling snake oil really

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TreyFlowers
06/17/20 9:34:17 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Which one is butters?

Mike_stanton

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DarkRoast
06/17/20 9:35:02 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Did you vote for the republican house and senate? Or just any dipshit that could have pointed out he was selling snake oil really

Can you just lay off? I'm so disgusted with the GOP, there's no chance of me ever voting for them again.

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Mike_Stanton
06/18/20 12:37:29 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Also, what is your source that hydroxychloroquine is effective/should be used for COVID?
When did I say that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for COVID-19?

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The Wheelman1
06/18/20 12:39:25 AM
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Does that stuff even work? Have they tested it?

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vigorm0rtis
06/18/20 12:39:44 AM
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Guide
06/18/20 12:40:49 AM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
When did I say that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for COVID-19?

Mike_Stanton posted...
Typical FDA blocking useful treatment.


You realize that this topic is related to the COVID-19 pandemic, yes? Are you saying

Mike_Stanton posted...
Typical FDA blocking useful treatment.

This post isn't in regards to COVID? What other thing needs treatment, and why bring it up in a COVID topic?


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Guide
06/18/20 12:41:52 AM
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@Gobstoppers12

I've seen you getting into political defense again, what the fuck is up with this?

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Mike_Stanton
06/18/20 12:49:40 AM
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Guide posted...
You realize that this topic is related to the COVID-19 pandemic, yes? Are you saying

This post isn't in regards to COVID? What other thing needs treatment, and why bring it up in a COVID topic?
Did I specifically mention hydroxychloroquine?

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Gobstoppers12
06/18/20 12:53:25 AM
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Guide posted...
@Gobstoppers12

I've seen you getting into political defense again, what the fuck is up with this?
I've had a few too many run-ins with people saying things I'd rather not let slide. Lots of intense anarchist and anti-police bullshit.

As for this, the article says "donated," and if nothing else, this is still a drug used to treat malaria...so worst case, we donate it to places struggling with malaria.

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Guide
06/18/20 12:58:26 AM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
Did I specifically mention hydroxychloroquine?

Mike_Stanton posted...
Typical FDA blocking useful treatment.

By very basic inference, yes. Are you attempting to troll, or are you capable of honesty? What was the point of your post?

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