Current Events > I like how suddenly COVID-19 is back.

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the country was protesting lockdown before the police. people did get tired and anxious about the whole ordeal. we dont know who to trust with covid19 information and thats the scary part because the unknown left us to fill in the blanks of the pandemic. it was like chickens with their heads cut off about the answers we needed. WHO, White House, and the POTUS were unreliable. our leaders failed the country tbh


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onedarksoul posted...

Read the articles about national guard being deployed for one day, going back to base then testing positive

They probably caught it before that if the test was just a day later.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

They'll never learn. He knows what he's doing.

Trump protestors were magnitudes less than BLM. Just because they wear masks, doesn't mean they can't end up with a similar level of spread when all things considered including the larger numbers.

Also black people die 3.6x more than white people from the virus. Latinos at 2.5x, so one can be far more damaging.

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Zikten posted...

that BLM protests have masks and are in fresh air. Trump rallies have no masks, and are packed inside a stadium

And there's no concrete information on this yet. So again, please stop spreading misinformation.

Just a day or two ago, you kept posting that Rayshard was just sleeping in a parking spot and taken out of his car and beaten. Even after people corrected you.

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Protestors wearing mask isn't gonna stop the spread lmao.
They literally neck to neck shouting for hours on end. Did they change their mask every hour? No.

Nationally we're at about the same amount of cases per day as we were a month ago.

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s0nicfan posted...

Current estimates put the protests at about 600,000 people across 400 cities. Do you want to tell me what half of that is compared to the, what, 200 people that protested for haircuts?

You're a doctor, let's talk transmission rates. Which of the two do you think is going to have a bigger impact on the spread of covid-19?

I'm gonna go with "the protests that literally were about making wearing masks illegal"


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All in all, it doesn't really matter who is responsible because no one in charge gives a fuck about individual human lives. There is no scenario where things get shut back down or people are mandated to wear masks and socially distance, so things are just going to happen

We had such an opportunity to come together and change the very fabric of our broken society, and the entire country shit the bed.

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

They probably caught it before that if the test was just a day later.

It means they were probably spreading it before they were confirmed to other protesters.

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There was gonna be an excuse to bring this disease back no matter what. I'm telling you it's never gonna leave because the governor's and mayors love this power too much.

I love how De Blasio was out with the protesters too. Like bro who you protesting against? You've been using unilateral power to shut anything down under the guise of an emergency the last few months. So use that same power to pass reform. It's such fake gaslighting going to a protest which is a protest that's against the government that he runs. And yet none of those protesters can piece that together apparently.

These movements all got co-oped very easily. There's no real leadership in the streets because people think leadership only comes from the government now. That's what they convinced people on. That's the last place you'll see leadership.

Nobody even knows what they're protesting for here in New York. I've been out walking around the whole city. It's militants who don't even attempt conversation or it's pathetic sappy white people who have a guilt complex constantly apologizing as if that's gonna do anything. No leadership. Nothing. It'll fade like all the other protests due to police violence.

Everyone celebrates when the cops get charged. They disappear. Then months later the cops never get convicted. They'll wait till everyone forgets. Because they always do. All the celebs and ball players that talk up needing change. They disappear too. I don't recall these NBA players wanting to stop play over the Mike brown stuff or the other cases in the last 4 years. Yeah they protested then they stopped. Everyone gets complacent and that's what the government is banking on. Fall back asleep. The cops will get off. Nobody will care. Now let's get back to the usual programming of shutting down our lives forever because of a virus that can't be vaccinated. That's another red herring. The vaccine. They'll keep saying it's close but it'll never get there. Mutates too quick. It's impossible. You'd need a vaccine every few months. Good luck with the logistics behind that.

I say let the people out who wanna live. Let everyone who wants to take that risk take it. And if they get covid then if they go to a hospital no matter their insurance they're not covered. The people who wanna stay inside every month. Let them. Get approval from the government that you're too afraid until the disease is completely gone. Be given enough money to cover rent and buy groceries. And if you're found out to be making extra income illegally you gotta go to jail.

This is absurd. I didn't nearly die 4 times in my life due to cystic fibrosis to finally essentially get cured back in November to only be a prisoner in my house again. I'm finally healthy enough to live a normal life and that isn't going to happen. Because I know governments. I have studied the bastards. They ain't gonna let up on these reigns any time soon. And they'll lie if they have to to keep it up. They've lied to get us in world war 1. Vietnam. You name it. They just make shit up.

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archedsoul posted...

Also black people die 3.6x more than white people from the virus. Latinos at 2.5x, so one can be far more damaging.

Now you're spreading misinformation. You worded this as if black and Hispanic people are more likely to die simply due to their race or ethnicity. It also fails to acknowledge the increased death rate for blacks is one of the motivating reasons for protesting in the first place.

WingsOfGood posted...

Protestors wearing mask isn't gonna stop the spread lmao.
They literally neck to neck shouting for hours on end. Did they change their mask every hour? No.

We actually don't know the true effectiveness of masks, but most preliminary data suggests any face covering is better than no face covering.

pistachio12 posted...

Now you're spreading misinformation. You worded this as if black and Hispanic people are more likely to die simply due to their race or ethnicity. It also fails to acknowledge the increased death rate for blacks is one of the motivating reasons for protesting in the first place.

Huh? Where did I imply anything you said? It's already known BIPOC communities are getting hit harder because of several issues like poor health, poverty, smaller living spaces, etc.

If the BIPOC out there in the protests, get the virus, they definitely have a higher chance of dying versus a bunch of white people. Thus it can be far more damaging.

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archedsoul posted...

And there's no concrete information on this yet.

wut

there is no evidence that BLM is outside and Trump rallies are inside? what are you talking about?

It was taking a nap.

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Zikten posted...

wut

there is no evidence that BLM is outside and Trump rallies are inside? what are you talking about?

It's clear you don't have the capacity to understand the point here.

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archedsoul posted...

It's clear you don't have the capacity to understand the point here.

no I think you don't. you keep saying there is no evidence in response to me pointing out the protestors have masks and are outside. and that trump rallies have no masks and are in. that's what I keep saying that you keep claiming has no evidence. I feel like we are not talking the same language

Zikten posted...

no I think you don't. you keep saying there is no evidence in response to me pointing out the protestors have masks and are outside. and that trump rallies have no masks and are in. that's what I keep saying that you keep claiming has no evidence. I feel like we are not talking the same language

Go back and re-read my posts. Nothing you're saying even relates to what I said. You're just throwing out BS like you have all week. That's why I told you to simmer down. Like, I already explained everything and you're just throwing out things that don't even relate.

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archedsoul posted...

Go back and re-read my posts. Nothing you're saying even relates to what I said. You're just throwing out BS like you have all week. That's why I told you to simmer down. Like, I already explained everything and you're just throwing out things that don't even relate.

I said it because either you or someone else said there is no difference between left and right protests in regard to dealing with the virus

the left protesters are trying to be as safe as they can. the right protesters don't even think the virus is real and are doing nothing to stay safe

Zikten posted...

I said it because either you or someone else said there is no difference between left and right protests in regard to dealing with the virus

How about you go back and read the fucking thread again my dude.

You've admit you have problems understanding things. I'm telling you this is one of those instances.

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archedsoul posted...

You said the spread will be less. There are far more protests, magnitudes more than the one rally planned. We don't know the fallout of either yet. You saying one is less risky is misinformation.

I went back

I say it again, there may be more leftist protests but they are being safe. the trumpers are packed in like sardines. this is not misinformation. trump rallies are less people but more risky behavior.

vigorm0rtis posted...

We didn't. We're still in the first wave.

Yep beijing is already having it's second wave. Unlike the US who never stopped the first one.

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Zikten posted...

I went back

I say it again, there may be more leftist protests but they are being safe. the trumpers are packed in like sardines. this is not misinformation. trump rallies are less people but more risky behavior.

Holy shit. You said there will be less spread. I explained how they're several magnitudes more protesters. Numbers around half a million to a million.

Trump's rally can't even fit 30k.

Add in that not everybody is wearing masks and no body is social distancing and the several times increase in deaths in the BIPOC communities means it can spread and cause more damage.

We don't fucking know yet but some things are certain that the communities protesting are affected several times more than white people. You say one will cause less spread and damage, and that is misinformation.

I've also pointed out that none of these protests or rallies might matter because the bigger issue are the reopenings.

What part of this don't you understand? Has Alaska frozen your brain that you've been acting worse than you do?

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Zikten posted...

the left protesters are trying to be as safe as they can. the right protesters don't even think the virus is real and are doing nothing to stay safe

Why does criticism of the one side have to revert to BUT HERES WHAT THE OTHER GUYS DID!?

Politics aside both protests are not smart things to do amid a pandemic.

voldothegr8 posted...

https://i.imgur.com/lrvWgt8.jpg

Boom

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It's summer in alaska

Anyway I'm just gonna say let's stop here

I feel like we are not on the same page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg

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gamer167 posted...

Why does criticism of the one side have to revert to BUT HERES WHAT THE OTHER GUYS DID!?

Politics aside both protests are not smart things to do amid a pandemic.

You can't be neutral in politics. You have to pick one side and defend it to the death. Even scientists are picking a side and they say protests are good Trump rallies are bad.

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