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>"NYPD child abuse, officer punches child in the head"
>"Man drowns as officers look on without coming to his aid"

but OH NOOOO we can't imply all cops are bastards with little to no regard for human life of any age, that would be mean :'(

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you're so lucky
the mods don't even notice me
it's like they don't care

Good.

Generalizing all people based on the act of some people in the group is wrong. Don't know why that's so hard for people to grasp.

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Please follow the TOS <_<

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Squall28 posted...

Generalizing all people based on the act of some people in the group is wrong. Don't know why that's so hard for people to grasp.

all cats are beautiful

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Yes generalizing all people in a negative light is against the ToS. I had to learn it the hard way a long time ago too.

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NotYou posted...

you're so lucky
the mods don't even notice me
it's like they don't care

This is my issue. I mean wtf? Why sm I not getting modded?

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Jagr_68 posted...

all cats are beautiful

https://i.imgflip.com/2h3s5p.jpg

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most cops aren't bad

but you continue to lie if you wish just don't be esurprised when you get punished

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CreepySmile posted...

most cops aren't bad

but you continue to lie if you wish just don't be esurprised when you get punished

Meanwhile trolls can go about their business critiquing all black people and protestors in the same manner because of a few looters and opportunists.

But since there's no abbreviated term for that, it's all peachy and okay...

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Jagr_68 posted...

Meanwhile trolls can go about their business critiquing all black people and protestors in the same manner because of a few looters and opportunists.

But since there's no abbreviated term for that, it's all peachy and okay...

don't call all cops bastards
easy to obey

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Jagr_68 posted...

Meanwhile trolls can go about their business critiquing all black people and protestors in the same manner because of a few looters and opportunists.

But since there's no abbreviated term for that, it's all peachy and okay...

Don't worry, it's Irish Vegy being Irish Vegy.

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I don't care how many moderations you get, Jaromir, just please retire as a Pittsburgh Penguin.

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Phantom36 posted...

I don't care how many moderations you get, Jaromir, just please retire as a Pittsburgh Penguin.

You must care or else no.

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Jagr_68 posted...

Meanwhile trolls can go about their business critiquing all black people and protestors in the same manner because of a few looters and opportunists.

But since there's no abbreviated term for that, it's all peachy and okay...

No they don't LMAO. Just because YOU got modded doesn't mean the mods lean the direct opposite.

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Veggeta X posted...

Yes generalizing all people in a negative light is against the ToS. I had to learn it the hard way a long time ago too.

gfaqd really letting the ball drop in every other post in every political topic if thats the case.

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all cops ARE bad though

they are loyal to themselves and other cops and not the communities they serve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

CreepySmile posted...

most cops aren't bad

but you continue to lie if you wish just don't be esurprised when you get punished

This.

You mustve got hit by a new mod OP. Usually what you said wouldnt be against the rules and would be applauded here.

source: been modded multiple times for supporting the US military and even just mentioning war crimes ISIS has commited. It used to be that you couldnt be critical of terrorist organizations or show any inkling of patriotism here.

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Veggeta X posted...

No they don't LMAO. Just because YOU got modded doesn't mean the mods lean the direct opposite.

They certainly get away with things more often than not and basically let us posters do the work for them sans actual moderating. It isn't until someone lays down those 4 letters that the mods go into RED ALERT status.

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Squall28 posted...

Generalizing all people based on the act of some people in the group is wrong. Don't know why that's so hard for people to grasp.

What if there were a group of people calling themselves Puppy Killers, Incorporated and they went around the nation killing someones pet dog once per hour, every hour of every day? You know, like U.S. cops do?

https://qz.com/870601/police-killing-dogs-is-an-epidemic-according-to-the-justice-department/

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Jagr_68 posted...

They certainly get away with things more often than not and basically let us posters do the work for them sans actual moderating. It isn't until someone lays down those 4 letters that the mods go into RED ALERT status.

No they don't. Saying all protestors are bad and looters will get you modded just as quickly.

CanuckCowboy posted...

gfaqd really letting the ball drop in every other post in every political topic if thats the case.

Then you need to mark them.

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BathroomWater posted...

What if there were a group of people calling themselves Puppy Killers, Incorporated and they went around the nation killing someones dog once per hour, every hour of every day? You know, like U.S. cops do?

https://qz.com/870601/police-killing-dogs-is-an-epidemic-according-to-the-justice-department/

No one take this guys' extreme views seriously. He's another one of those "OMG mods always mod me and never the bad guys!" and complains all day about it.

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I got one for quoting an anti-trump rant that wasn't really particularly offensive anyway.

I get it from regular uses but mods never came after me for my anti cop sentiments. You sure you're not just being extra?

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I just mark it as read without even reading it. The mods have no credibility here and the snowflakes are worse.

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greencheek posted...

all cops ARE bad though

they are loyal to themselves and other cops and not the communities they serve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

What about GameFAQs moderators?

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Veggeta X posted...

No one take this guys' extreme views seriously. He's another one of those "OMG mods always mod me and never the bad guys!" and complains all day about it.

No one take the lies coming from this user seriously, he has a habit of spouting some naive nonsense and then doubling down on it repeatedly even in the face of overwhelming evidence that hes wrong.

And he can never provide anything tangible that even remotely suggests there is something to his position.

Heres yet another instance where I provided an article to support my position and instead of attempting to refute it hes immediately resorted to playground-level name-calling.

How embarrassing.

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Christian RULES posted...

lmfao

Veggeta X posted...

No they don't. Saying all protestors are bad and looters will get you modded just as quickly.

No way, you'd have to up the trolling to full out racism levels (which ppl have been modded for) but otherwise, conservative rhetoric of that sort is not b7. Stating all cops are bastards even as a generalization points to an obvious double standard of what's appropriate and what isn't.

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BathroomWater posted...

Heres yet another instance where I provided an article to support my position and instead of attempting to refute it hes immediately resorted to playground-level name-calling.

what name did he call you

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BathroomWater posted...

What if there were a group of people calling themselves Puppy Killers, Incorporated and they went around the nation killing someones pet dog once per hour, every hour of every day? You know, like U.S. cops do?

https://qz.com/870601/police-killing-dogs-is-an-epidemic-according-to-the-justice-department/

The police wasn't formed to kill dogs. I'll add an asterisk to my statement for obvious hate groups. Happy?

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CreepySmile posted...

what name did he call you

An extremist and chronic complainer.

Both patently false. My article backs up my so-called extreme views, and Ive never complained about the mods. I dont even ever recall being modded by them if I was it must have been a NKL.

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wow real vegy is mean

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Christian RULES posted...

xD

Squall28 posted...

The police wasn't formed to kill dogs.

Youre right. They were formed to hunt runaway slaves and beat up strikers who wanted to not have to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week and who wanted to abolish child labor.

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BathroomWater posted...

Youre right. They were formed to hunt runaway slaves and beat up strikers who wanted to not have to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week and who wanted to abolish child labor.

Oh lord. He thinks he's being completely rational.

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Jagr_68 posted...

No way, you'd have to up the trolling to full out racism levels (which ppl have been modded for) but otherwise, conservative rhetoric of that sort is not b7. Stating all cops are bastards even as a generalization points to an obvious double standard of what's appropriate and what isn't.

I been modded plenty of times for generalizing against Trump supporters and Repubs and have seen many who gets modded for the same. It's pretty obvious you got hit for something and then now using the logic that the mods must be for the opposition.

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Veggeta X posted...

Oh lord. He thinks he's being completely rational.

Oh lord. Man who never reads anything or provides any sources for his claims thinks he has even a modicum of ground to stand on.

In England and the United States, the police were invented within the space of just a few decadesroughly from 1825 to 1855.

The new institution was not a response to an increase in crime, and it really didnt lead to new methods for dealing with crime. The most common way for authorities to solve a crime, before and since the invention of police, has been for someone to tell them who did it.

Besides, crime has to do with the acts of individuals, and the ruling elites who invented the police were responding to challenges posed by collective action. To put it in a nutshell: The authorities created the police in response to large, defiant crowds. Thats

strikes in England,
riots in the Northern US,
and the threat of slave insurrections in the South.

So the police are a response to crowds, not to crime.

sources:

Thompson, E. P. The Making of the English Working Class. Vintage, 1966.

Farrell, Audrey. Crime, Class and Corruption. Bookmarks, 1995.

Williams, Kristian. Our Enemies in Blue: Police and Power in America. Revised Edition. South End Press, 2007.

Silberman, Charles E. Criminal Violence, Criminal Justice. First Edition. New York: Vintage, 1980.

Bacon, Selden Daskam. The Early Development of American Municipal Police: A Study of the Evolution of Formal Controls in a Changing Society. Two volumes. University Microfilms, 1939.

Gilje, Paul A. The Road to Mobocracy: Popular Disorder in New York City, 1763-1834. The University of North Carolina Press, 1987.

Steinberg, Allen. The Transformation of Criminal Justice: Philadelphia, 1800-1880. 1st edition. Chapel Hill: The University of North Carolina Press, 1989.

Wade, Richard C. Slavery in the Cities: The South 18201860. Oxford University Press, 1964.

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We went through this already. Just because you can find an article that supports your argument doesn't mean it's factual. Just because you found an article about cops killing dogs doesn't mean cops were made purposely to kill dogs. Do you see how crazy you sound?

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If you have laws, you need law enforcement. Policing existed in some form or another since ancient times. It wasn't just invented in the 1800s.

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Today we learned a valuable lesson.

Don't fuck with CBS.

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Veggeta X posted...

doesn't mean cops were made purposely to kill dogs.

Right...like I said, they were formed to hunt runaway slaves and beat up people who were working under brutal conditions. (Notice how I provided sources for my position which YOU never seem to be able to do.)

And here again is you attempting to use your word (which has been proven wrong repeatedly) against my evidence. You can never produce anything remotely resembling evidence. Your entire argument is just basically lol no ur wrong because I said so.

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Squall28 posted...

If you have laws, you need law enforcement. Policing existed in some form or another since ancient times. It wasn't just invented in the 1800s.

Right...my point was that our modern system of law enforcement is particularly awful and hasnt existed for very long.

There are alternatives. One of them is a justice system that existed in the United States before the rise of the police. Its well documented for Philadelphia, so thats the place Ill discuss. Colonial Philadelphia developed a system called the minor courts in which most criminal prosecutions took place. The mayor and the aldermen served as the judgesthe magistrates. Poor people would save up money so they could pay a fee to the magistrate to hear a case.

Then, as now, most crime was committed by poor people against poor people. In these courts, the victim of assault, theft, or defamation would act as prosecutor. A constable might get involved in order to bring in the accused, but thats not the same thing as a cop making an arrest. The whole action was driven by the victims desires, not the states objectives. The accused could also counter-sue.

There were no lawyers involved on either side, so the only expense was the fee to the magistrate. The system wasnt perfect, because the judge might be corrupt, and the life of the poor didnt stop being miserable when they won a case. But the system was quite popular and continued operating for some time even after a system of modern police and state prosecutors developed in parallel.

The rise of the police, which came along with the rise of the prosecutors, meant that the state was putting its thumb on the scales of justice. In court, you might hope to be treated as innocent until proven guilty. Before you get to court, though, you have to pass through the hands of the cops and prosecutors who certainly dont treat you like youre innocent. They have a chance to pressure you or torture you into a confessionor nowadays a confession in the form of a plea bargainbefore you ever get to court.

However unfair the system came to be as it was dominated by cops and prosecutors, the minor courts had shown Philadelphians that an alternative was possible that looked a lot more like dispute resolution among equals.

Thats the keywe can make an alternative available again if we abolish the unequal social relations that that police were invented to defend. When the workers of Paris took over the city for two months in 1871, they established a government under the old name of the Commune. The beginnings of social equality in Paris undercut the need for repression and allowed the Communards to experiment with abolishing the police as a separate state force, apart from the citizenry. People would elect their own officers of public safety, accountable to the electors and subject to immediate recall.

This never became a settled routine because the city was under siege from day one, but the Communards had the right idea. In order to overcome a regime of police repression, the crucial work was to live up to the name of the Communethat is, to build a self-governing community of equals. Thats still pretty much what we need to do.

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It's like you didn't even read what I said. I'll just keep you tagged as an left extremist. You can think however you want of me.

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Youre not really saying anything because you have nothing to back you up. I never said police were formed to kill dogs I said what would you call a group of people who went around the nation killing a pet dog every hour, daily? Good or bad?

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