Current Events > "It's not enough to be not-racist. You have to be anti-racism."

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pinky0926
06/08/20 9:12:48 AM
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What does CE think about this statement?

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QueenCarly
06/08/20 9:13:26 AM
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Yeah, kind of obvious.

If you're not actively against racism you are perpetuating it.

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CreepySmile
06/08/20 9:14:02 AM
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I don't see a difference.

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Bananana
06/08/20 9:14:05 AM
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ce will find it controversial, just wait

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ChuckSDeuces
06/08/20 9:14:06 AM
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Sounds like something from twitter alright
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gamepimp12
06/08/20 9:14:59 AM
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QueenCarly posted...
Yeah, kind of obvious.

If you're not actively against racism you are perpetuating it.

This.

but some on CE feels you can say BLM in your head and no where else and consider yourself anti racism

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pinky0926
06/08/20 9:15:38 AM
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CreepySmile posted...
I don't see a difference.

Well one is not participating in racism *as far as you're aware, the other is actively fighting against racism

Sort of like the difference between not being an arsonist and being someone who helps put out the fire

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Squall28
06/08/20 9:15:52 AM
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CreepySmile posted...
I don't see a difference.

I would say anti is a subset of not-racist. It's where you'll actively fight against it as opposed to just keeping your mouth shut when you see it.

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BathroomWater
06/08/20 9:16:01 AM
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Why would anyone not be against racism unless they were racist?

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emblem boy
06/08/20 9:16:32 AM
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I don't know, it doesn't mean much to me unless you also say what you mean by those terms.
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CreepySmile
06/08/20 9:16:40 AM
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But that's the same thing to me. Not being racist means you don't support others being racist.

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VVALLBOUNCE
06/08/20 9:17:20 AM
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QueenCarly posted...
Yeah, kind of obvious.

If you're not actively against racism you are perpetuating it.

Lmao
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VVALLBOUNCE
06/08/20 9:18:12 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
This.

but some on CE feels you can say BLM in your head and no where else and consider yourself anti racism

So, you two are going to tell me that despite me treating everyone equal, Im perpetuating racism? Lmao. Everyone is responsible for one and only one persons actions: his/her own. If I treat everyone equally and hold no prejudice, theres no more I need do. I maintain precisely zero responsibility for the actions or words of any other human being. This is thoroughly undebatable, but go ahead.
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pinky0926
06/08/20 9:18:28 AM
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BathroomWater posted...
Why would anyone not be against racism unless they were racist?

Just my own observation, but there are a lot of people who take up say, an #alllivesmatters stance, but then will say "But I'm not racist, I have never treated a person badly for being black".

Seems to be a disconnect there.


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averagejoel
06/08/20 9:19:27 AM
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I think the idea of "anti-racist" as a more extreme version of "not racist" is misguided and simplistic and doesn't recognize racism as a systemic issue.

being anti-racist doesn't mean that someone is suddenly not racist -- racism as a set of behaviors is learned through participation in a racist system, and it takes conscious effort to recognize and unlearn those behaviors

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Dathrowed1
06/08/20 9:24:03 AM
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CreepySmile posted...
I don't see a difference.
It is a bullying tactic to scare people on their side

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CyricZ
06/08/20 9:24:04 AM
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"Not racist" is passive.

"Anti racist" is active.

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pinky0926
06/08/20 9:26:11 AM
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averagejoel posted...
I think the idea of "anti-racist" as a more extreme version of "not racist" is misguided and simplistic and doesn't recognize racism as a systemic issue.

being anti-racist doesn't mean that someone is suddenly not racist -- racism as a set of behaviors is learned through participation in a racist system, and it takes conscious effort to recognize and unlearn those behaviors

Interesting perspective

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gamepimp12
06/08/20 9:26:16 AM
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VVALLBOUNCE posted...
So, you two are going to tell me that despite me treating everyone equal, Im perpetuating racism? Lmao. Everyone is responsible for one and only one persons actions: his/her own. If I treat everyone equally and hold no prejudice, theres no more I need do. I maintain precisely zero responsibility for the actions or words of any other human being. This is thoroughly undebatable, but go ahead.

I mean if youre not racist but Knowingly Benefit from racism and knowingly allow racism to spread in your community without at least challenging it.

youre not really against racism, youre against racism when it inconveniences you.


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iwasapoetonce
06/08/20 9:28:41 AM
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it doesn't mean a whole lot unless its defined.

I know plenty of colored people who are against affirmative action in any form. Affirmative action can be argued helps reverse a racist trend of only hiring people of a certain race.

I also know someone who was an illegal immigrant from Mexico who got his legal status through marriage. Although he's not a MAGA Trumpist, he is a card carrying Republican. He's not an independent that doesn't vote democrat. He is a Republican through and through. He's not a republican through religion though. Last I checked, he's not all that religious.

He does not judge by race. He loves his Mexican heritage, and he is close with many black people. His wife is darker than many black people.

Point is, he won't be out to protest for BLM. He is more of an All Lives Matter, but not as an opposition from BLM. He, himself, was subject to incredible racism, and he feels BLM takes away from the systemic racism that goes on nationwide that doesn't involve black people.

He hasn't been subject to racism for many years, and I think that's why he's a bit tone deaf to the whole BLM movement.

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QueenCarly
06/08/20 9:31:35 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
I mean if youre not racist but Knowingly Benefit from racism and knowingly allow racism to spread in your community without at least challenging it.

youre not really against racism, youre against racism when it inconveniences you.

yep. exactly this.

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8-bit_Biceps
06/08/20 9:31:37 AM
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CreepySmile posted...
I don't see a difference.

racist is alt-right

not racist is moderate

anti-racist is progressive

btw you're an idiot

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pinky0926
06/08/20 9:38:47 AM
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BallroomBetch posted...
Anti-racist just means anti-white, typically implicitly but in this context it's extra explicit. Systemic racism doesn't really exist anyway, except against white people, and I wouldn't tolerate that BS against any person or people. I'm not gonna put up with the notion that all people of one race are evil and racist just because they were born that way, sorry, that's just monstrous.

Also, I object to the notion that you can't just oppose ideas; that you must oppose the people themselves. It's just an ideology of evil, and I'm frankly both surprised and disgusted that so many people are falling for this propaganda.

Well...this is a take


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BathroomWater
06/08/20 9:40:52 AM
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pinky0926
06/08/20 9:41:20 AM
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BathroomWater posted...
USER INFO: BALLROOMBETCH
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ah

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8-bit_Biceps
06/08/20 9:44:18 AM
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@BallroomBetch

White privilege just means all of your disadvantages have nothing to do with your race.

That is, if you're white. Just guessing that you're white.

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