Current Events > Maybe the states *should* bring the military in to replace the police

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The military has more strict rules of engagement with civilians than the police do

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well assault rifles are better at shooting people in the face, and they have access to legit tanks.

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yeah this is not a super serious topic in case it sounds otherwise to anyone

but the military really does have more strict rules of engagement

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Replace police with BLM's brightest.

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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Lol replacing trained killers with even more trained killers

its more complicated than that. Please read up on the Posse Comitatus Act

Like does just mean people become cops or does being a cop just make people become mean?

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Like does just mean people become cops or does being a cop just make people become mean?

well lets see, in no real order.

• its not a high paying job, especially since its high danger and stress, so its not going to attract the best and brightest.
• its entry requirements are criminally low, and the training is very short.
• many police forces have a storied history of issues with minorities and the underprivileged, and since they act sort of like a college frat that history gets maintained.
• more to the point, that frat mentality means they're going to cover for each other even when one of them seriously fucks up.
• to be a cop in america is to be a cop in the country with some of the highest rates of gun ownership and worst gun control laws.
• there's legitimate evidence that suggests that spinoff neo-nazi/kkk/hate groups have infiltrated many forces around the country.
• there's a lot of hate against cops in the country in general. decades of culture urging violence and non-compliance doesn't help.

so i'd say its way more complicated then just cops are bad.

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TC IS right about the training and rules of engagement. Soldiers get better training than police recruits. They have more rules on what they can do and they don't have a Union or politicians constantly excusing their mistakes.

For the riots or in general?

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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Lol replacing trained killers with even more trained killers

This. My husband is ex-Army and he always says military are trained to kill and typically make bad cops. He himself opted not to go the police route because he was worried he wouldnt have the temper or patience for it.

Cleo_II posted...

This. My husband is ex-Army and he always says military are trained to kill and typically make bad cops. He himself opted not to go the police route because he was worried he wouldnt have the temper or patience for it.

interesting, I would have thought it was the other way around. guess PTSD could be a problem?

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No one with any sense wants the military involved in this. It won't end well for anyone.

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while I don't agree with this, I do have to say that it is very disheartening to know that cops are above the rules of engagement against their own citizens. It's fucked up.

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theyll send drones before the military tbh if cities begin to fall one after another though

some contractor will start targeting people for "concentrated law enforcement support"

doomsday clock moves...

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Like does just mean people become cops or does being a cop just make people become mean?

I mean it would definitely wear you down after a while. And not just shit they deal with but moreso being part of a poisoned, racist system in which speaking out or condemning another cops action is apparently worse than killing someone.

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thronedfire2 posted...

interesting, I would have thought it was the other way around. guess PTSD could be a problem?

Not PTSD. From what he says, they dont train you to de-escalate things. They train you to kill. It can be a reflex to just kill a person coming at you vs trying to calm them down. Often times bad cops have military backgrounds.

From what I understand if you leave the military (on good terms) you're basically guaranteed a job in law enforcement if you want it.

Those cops arent good; they're used to a certain environment and atmosphere that's very different from civilian life but they dont operate that way. They have better training and should be more patient, but they're overzealous.

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SolidShadow3 posted...

From what I understand if you leave the military (on good terms) you're basically guaranteed a job in law enforcement if you want it.

Those cops arent good; they're used to a certain environment and atmosphere that's very different from civilian life but they dont operate that way. They have better training and should be more patient, but they're overzealous.

They're like that in regular jobs too.

I've had many bosses and supervisors that were former military.

Always hooting and hollering, do this and that, what's taking so long.


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There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

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Were_Wyrm posted...

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

if only he could be our President

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What countries have models of Police services where:
- there's appropriate funding for training;
- regular psychological assessment is mandatory;
- peaceable deescalation always is the goal; and,
- all Police interactions with the public and the outcomes are reviewed by an independent, civilian members panel?

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