Current Events > Canada is handling the coronavirus much better than Americans. Are u surprised?

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ZannoL
06/03/20 3:40:22 PM
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Are you even surprised?


https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/6/2/21275197/coronavirus-canada-double-bubble-united-states-reopening

The United States is charging ahead with reopening. All 50 states are now moving to reopen their economies, even though only three meet basic criteria to do so safely. Coronaviruscases are rising in some states, yet public officials there are still choosing to open bars, restaurants, and more.

Meanwhile, Canada is trying out a much more modest experiment in easing social distancing. Based on early data, it seems to be working out.

Our northern neighbor has been doing far better than the US at keeping case numbers down, partly because its political system works. Its per capita Covid-19 death rate is roughly half that of Americas.

So, lately, some Canadian provinces have begun allowing people to form double bubbles. That means two households can now make a pact to hang out with and even hug each other, so long as they agree to stay distanced from everyone else. The hope is that doubling the family bubble will reduce isolation and its toll on mental health, while also helping with things like child care. This is meant to be an intermediate step before opening up further.

Canada borrowed the strategy from New Zealand, which used it to great effect before virtually eliminating the coronavirus. A few European countries, such as Germany, have also tried it before progressing to more drastic reopening measures.

Now that more than two weeks have passed since some provinces allowed people to double-bubble, we can expect that any resultant rise in daily new cases would be showing up in the data. But the data show no such rise.

In the last few weeks, there has not been a rise in cases in fact the opposite is true, Isaac Bogoch, an infectious disease specialist at Toronto General Hospital, told me. This isa very smart and creative approach to the early phases of lifting the public health restrictions were living under.

SomeAmerican experts, meanwhile, sounded a note of frustration that the US is adopting a more aggressive approach in its rush to return to normal. There are many gradations in between total shutdown and wholesale reopening, and although the US is adopting a phased approach to reopening, it seems to be leapfrogging over some of the more modest gradations like the double bubble. Rather than telling people they can link up with one other household, some states are telling them they can go to bars, where theyll come into contact with far more people.

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CreepySmile
06/03/20 3:41:05 PM
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what is your obsession with that picture?
You a BBW fan?

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Machete
06/03/20 3:42:16 PM
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not surprised. America unfortunately has a donald that's fucking everything up. Canada does not have a donald. It makes perfect sense that Canada is doing a better job.

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ZannoL
06/03/20 3:42:30 PM
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Machete posted...
not surprised. America unfortunately has a donald that's fucking everything up. Canada does not have a donald. It makes perfect sense that Canada is doing a better job.

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Stewman_Magoo
06/03/20 3:43:25 PM
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Our leader never thought it was a hoax and handled it appropriately so...

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Gossipgirl
06/03/20 3:43:51 PM
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We have a much population 10 times smaller but our land mass is about the same. Our population also on average seems less prone to insane and destructive behaviour lol

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EnragedSlith
06/03/20 3:44:47 PM
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Gossipgirl posted...
We have a much population 10 times smaller but our land mass is about the same. Our population also on average seems less prone to insane and destructive behaviour lol

They have urban density, too. This is more about their social systems and their culture.

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Austin_Era_II
06/03/20 3:44:49 PM
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Weed is legal. Yay!

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bobaban
06/03/20 3:47:05 PM
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To be fair, population is a lot less dense in Canada. Thats why NY was hit so bad
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Gossipgirl
06/03/20 3:48:33 PM
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EnragedSlith posted...
They have urban density, too. This is more about their social systems and their culture.
That is true but we dont have as many big cities compared to the US.

We have 5 maybe 6 population centres with more then a million people.

But I agree in general we Canadians are much more civilized and reasonable then our American brethren.

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ZannoL
06/03/20 3:50:26 PM
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Gossipgirl posted...
But I agree in general we Canadians are much more civilized and reasonable then our American brethren.

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Awards
06/03/20 3:59:35 PM
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Goddamn Americans ._.
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ZannoL
06/03/20 5:29:31 PM
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Bump
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Thompson
06/03/20 5:34:35 PM
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bobaban posted...
To be fair, population is a lot less dense in Canada.
American population is quite dense, especially in the head.

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ZannoL
06/03/20 5:53:56 PM
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Thompson posted...
American population is quite dense, especially in the head.
True
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SpudForce
06/03/20 5:55:26 PM
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Justin Trudeau has his problems but he's no petty little orange muppet.

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nativengine
06/03/20 5:59:23 PM
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Canadas population: 37 million
America's population: 328 million


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NES4EVER
06/03/20 6:03:51 PM
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nativengine posted...
Canadas population: 37 million
America's population: 328 million

American COVID numbers: closing in on 1.9 million
Canadian COVID numbers: 93k

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mustachedmystic
06/03/20 6:07:14 PM
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What's with that pic? Do you think there aren't any fat Canuks? There's plenty of them.

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nativengine
06/03/20 6:22:20 PM
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NES4EVER posted...
American COVID numbers: closing in on 1.9 million
Canadian COVID numbers: 93k

So, almost 300 million more people, living in more condensed, populated cites.... theres gonna be higher numbers. Of course Canada has done better. But lets not put the American outbreak on just Trump. Our own people didnt take this thing seriously and people still arent. Trump shouldve done more, our governors should have done more, we Americans should
have done more.

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ZannoL
06/03/20 8:14:20 PM
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Bump.
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Choco
06/03/20 8:15:52 PM
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Machete posted...
not surprised. America unfortunately has a donald that's fucking everything up. Canada does not have a donald. It makes perfect sense that Canada is doing a better job.
did you know his name is donald

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C_Pain
06/03/20 8:16:03 PM
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Aren't reopenings on a state level, so Trump doesn't determine that?

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ZannoL
06/04/20 10:14:21 AM
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Bump
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Ryven
06/04/20 10:18:37 AM
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ZannoL posted...

Gossipgirl posted...
That is true but we dont have as many big cities compared to the US.

We have 5 maybe 6 population centres with more then a million people.

But I agree in general we Canadians are much more civilized and reasonable then our American brethren.


I agree to a point, but also want to state that we aren't perfect, there's unfortunately a lot of hate, racism etc up here as well that gets unnoticed because we get compared to the US a lot.

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SevenTenths
06/04/20 10:22:20 AM
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Even if trump wasn't the idiot who is making things worse it would almost be guaranteed to happen given how fairly less densely populated the country is. And nationalized heath care should reduce people not getting test/treatment due to concerns of being able to pay for it.

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