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skermac 06/01/20 3:15:30 PM #1: |
I dont really know anything about antifa so I dont know their agenga but i was watching the news and the reporter said trump tweeted the US has designated them a terrorist group, I didnt see his tweet , imonly going off what the reporter said, is this a good thing or bad thing?
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p-m 06/01/20 3:16:06 PM #2: |
Well it's not an organisation, so it's pretty fucking dumb
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skermac 06/01/20 3:17:00 PM #3: |
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Well it's not an organisation, so it's pretty fucking dumb what is it a group? Something else? --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Halo478 06/01/20 3:17:26 PM #4: |
White nationalists have shot up malls and run people over in cars at protests they are fine upstanding citizens Antifa terrorists that need prison
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s0nicfan 06/01/20 3:18:31 PM #5: |
"But Antifa isn't an organization with a leader" is a terrible argument.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) The antifa movement has grown since the 2016 presidential election and, as of August 2017, approximately 200 groups existed, of varying sizes and levels of activity. According to Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at the California State University, San Bernardino, antifa activists feel the need to participate in violent actions because "they believe that elites are controlling the government and the media. So they need to make a statement head-on against the people who they regard as racist". A Washington Post book review reports: "Antifa tactics include 'no platforming,' i.e. denying their targets the opportunity to speak out in public; obstructing their events and defacing their propaganda; and, when antifa activists deem it necessary, deploying violence to deter them." According to National Public Radio, antifa's "approach is confrontational," and "people who speak for the Antifa movement acknowledge they sometimes carry clubs and sticks" In June 2017, the antifa movement was linked to "anarchist extremism" by the New Jersey Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness People flying the antifa flag have a long history of violence. Groups that represent themselves with the antifa label specifically go to events with the stated goal of using violence to get their way. You can be anti fascist without flying that flag, but the moment you pick it up you are knowingly supporting a collection of groups that have a stated goal of violent uprising. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrettyBoyFloyd 06/01/20 3:20:29 PM #6: |
Random people.
They're not organized or have papers on each other or have meetings like SPECTRE. Not saying they'd group up or slap each other on the back if they happen to come across each other. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 06/01/20 3:21:21 PM #7: |
Between 2007-2017 extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists.
Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. From: https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/ --- Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2017: Heather Heyer http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/us/charlottesville-heather-heyer-profile/index.html Taliesin Namkai Meche http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/max_stabbing_victim_attended_r_1.html#incart_big-photo Ricky Best http://taskandpurpose.com/ricky-best-one-2-men-killed-portland-stabbing-army-veteran/ Richard Collins III https://www.thenation.com/article/lynching-university-maryland-campus/ Timothy Caughman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Timothy_Caughman Srinivas Kuchibhotla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Olathe,_Kansas_shooting Casey Marquez & Francisco Fernandez https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-mexico-school-shooter-had-secret-life-on-pro-trump-white-supremacy-sites Charles Davis https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/alt-righter-seattle4truth-charged-killing-father-over-conspiracy-theories Officer Zackari Parrish http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/us/colorado-shooting-suspect-military-record/index.html Buckley Kuhn-Fricker & Scott Fricker https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/teen-charged-with-killing-girlfriends-parents-they-had-worried-he-was-a-neo-nazi/2017/12/23/e2102894-e761-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.32ba34f2ae29 The 6 Victims of the Quebec City mosque shooting: Ibrahima Barry, Mamadou Tanou Barry, Khaled Belkacemi, Aboubaker Thabti, Abdelkrim Hassane, and Azzedine Soufiane https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2017: Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2018: Blaze Bernstein https://www.haaretz.com/blaze-bernstein-murder-suspect-displayed-hate-on-social-media-1.5751372 The 17 Victims of the Stoneman Douglas High School Shooting: Alyssa Alhadeff, Scott Beigel, Martin Duque, Nicholas Dworet, Aaron Feis, Jaime Guttenberg, Chris Hixon, Luke Hoyer, Cara Loughran, Gina Montalto, Joaquin Oliver, Alaina Petty, Meadow Pollack, Helena Ramsay, Alex Schachter, Carmen Schentrup, and Peter Wang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting The 10 Victims of the Santa Fe High School Shooting: Jared Conard Black, Shana Fisher, Christian Riley Garcia, Aaron Kyle McLeod, Glenda Anne Perkins, Angelique Ramirez, Sabika Sheikh, Christopher Stone, Cynthia Tisdale, and Kimberly Vaughan https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/18/612286146/shooting-reported-at-high-school-near-houston The 10 Victims of the Toronto Van Attack Beutis Renuka Amarasinghe, Andrea Bradden, Geraldine Brady, So He Chung, Anne Marie D'Amico Mary Elizabeth Forsyth, Chul Min "Eddie" Kang, Ji Hun Kim, Munir Najjar, and Dorothy Sewell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_van_attack Sherell L. Lewis Jr https://nypost.com/2018/05/31/motorist-brags-about-running-over-some-n-r-on-snapchat/ Jeremy Himmelman & Andrew Oneschuck https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/suspect-in-tampa-neo-nazi-killings-returns-from-state-mental-hospital-20190326/ The 5 Victims of the Annapolis Capital Shooting: Gerald Fischman, Rob Hiaasen, John McNamara, Rebecca Smith, and Wendi Winters https://bluestatedaily.com/accused-annapolis-shooter-jarrod-ramos-was-inspired-by-the-alt-right-report/ Maurice Stallard & Vickie Lee Jones https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-kroger-gunman-uttered-whites-don-t-kill-whites-witness-n924641 The 11 victims of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting: Joyce Fienberg, Rich Gottfried, Rose Mallinger, Jerry Rabinowitz, Cecil Rosenthal, David Rosenthal, Bernice Simon, Sylvan Simon, Daniel Stein, Melvin Wax, & Irving Younger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting Dr. Nancy Van Vessem & Maura Binkley https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/yoga-studio-shooting-florida.html Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2018: Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2019: James Wolfe https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-seattle-man-thought-brother-lizard-killed-him-20190109-story.html The 5 Victimes of the Sebring Fl Bank Shooting: Cynthia Watson, Marisol Lopez, Jessica Montague, Debra Cook and Ana Pinon-Williams https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/zephen-xaver/ The 51 Victims of the Christchurch mosque shootings: The ages of those killed ranged from 2 to 71 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings Sydney Aiello https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkland-shooting-survivor-sydney-aiello-takes-her-own-life/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=65145580 Walter Lbcke https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/26/far-right-suspect-confesses-to-killing-german-politician-walter-lubcke Stephen Romero, Keyla Salazar, and Trevor Deon Irby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilroy_Garlic_Festival_shooting The 22 victims of the El Paso Shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting Murder Victims of the Far Left or Antifa in 2019: Murder victims of the Alt Right/White Supremacy in 2020: The 10 victims of a far right extremist attack in Germany: ... 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archedsoul 06/01/20 3:25:17 PM #9: |
Why is the media calling them "An Tifa"?
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Master_Bass 06/01/20 3:27:22 PM #10: |
Trump once again not caring about the law.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics/trump-antifa-protests/index.html President Donald Trump tweeted Sunday that the United States will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, even though the US government has no existing legal authority to label a wholly domestic group in the manner it currently designates foreign terrorist organizations. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 06/01/20 3:27:22 PM #11: |
Trump supporters are more organized and have actually killed people unlike Antifa.
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Tmaster148 06/01/20 3:29:08 PM #12: |
Anti Fascism is not a terrorist organization. It's just our fascist wannabe president getting upset that sane people of the USA want police to be held accountable.
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Vyrulisse 06/01/20 3:29:27 PM #13: |
Well most of the rioters look like Antifa bums so fair, next.
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threetimes 06/01/20 3:54:54 PM #14: |
Halo478 posted...
Between 2007-2017 extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. In World War 2 everyone was an anti-fascist if they opposed Hitler and Mussolini. --- The bells haven't stopped ringing yet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 06/01/20 8:42:09 PM #15: |
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Random people. so the govt is declaring a random group of people terrorists? jut trying to clarify --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 06/01/20 8:44:52 PM #16: |
archedsoul posted...
Why is the media calling them "An Tifa"? Antifa is short for antifascist --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 06/01/20 8:46:39 PM #17: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Anti Fascism is not a terrorist organization. It's just our fascist wannabe president getting upset that sane people of the USA want police to be held accountable. actually it is now an organization, Trump tweets Antifa will be labeled a terrorist organization but experts believe that's unconstitutional https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/31/politics/trump-antifa-protests/index.html --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/01/20 8:46:55 PM #18: |
Could not be more obvious this is just being done to allow him to condemn any one who opposes him and silence them under the guise of "Terrorists"
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Iodine 06/01/20 8:48:14 PM #19: |
Funkydog posted...
Could not be more obvious this is just being done to allow him to condemn any one who opposes him and silence them under the guise of "Terrorists" --- In Belichick we Trust ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 06/01/20 8:49:07 PM #20: |
Any response to this topic anywhere should just be Rexdragon125's post. That's all that needs to be said.
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ThunderTrain 06/01/20 8:51:44 PM #21: |
"There's good people on both sides"
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TheMikh 06/01/20 8:53:50 PM #22: |
really not fond of the move
antifa is not a centralized - or united - organization, and by virtue of this, not an ideologically or praxiologically coherent one with respect to its chapters there are other ways of cracking down on mob/gang violence, but given the nature of antifa, what exactly constitutes it is extremely vague seems like an extremely slippery slope to labeling any kind of mob activities or moderately unruly protests/protesters as terrorism --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nunyobidness 06/01/20 8:54:08 PM #23: |
skermac posted...
what is it a group? Something else? It's not a group, it's really just a slogan. Anyone can be ANTIFA all they have to do is say it. It's why the alt right idiots and Trump's obsession with it stupid. It doesn't exist in paper, there's no leader, no meetings no members. It's purely an idea, they're saying they're Anti Fascism. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 06/02/20 2:54:52 PM #24: |
Nunyobidness posted...
It's not a group, it's really just a slogan. Anyone can be ANTIFA all they have to do is say it. It's why the alt right idiots and Trump's obsession with it stupid. It doesn't exist in paper, there's no leader, no meetings no members. It's purely an idea, they're saying they're Anti Fascism. well whi did trump declare a terrorist organization? --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vivec 06/02/20 3:00:31 PM #25: |
skermac posted...
well whi did trump declare a terrorist organization?Because Trump is a fucking idiot who defends fascism and white supremacy every chance he gets? --- RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 06/02/20 3:01:52 PM #26: |
s0nicfan posted...
You can be anti fascist without flying that flag, but the moment you pick it up you are knowingly supporting a collection of groups that have a stated goal of violent uprising.Maybe because the only appropriate reaction to seeing a nazi is to punch them. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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freespeechfoot 06/02/20 3:02:50 PM #27: |
ZMythos posted...
Maybe because the only appropriate reaction to seeing a nazi is to punch them.https://www.dictionary.com/browse/terrorism --- i love democracy i love the republic AHHHHHHHHHHHH *ignites lightsaber and spins* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vivec 06/02/20 3:03:46 PM #28: |
Appeasement of white supremacy is a failed strategy and has been for 100 years
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ZMythos 06/02/20 3:04:02 PM #29: |
freespeechfoot posted...
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/terrorism
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freespeechfoot 06/02/20 3:04:46 PM #30: |
Vivec posted...
Appeasement of white supremacy is a failed strategy and has been for 100 yearsSo are you calling for people's deaths? "Appeasement" is military terminology, i.e. Neville Chamberlain. --- i love democracy i love the republic AHHHHHHHHHHHH *ignites lightsaber and spins* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 06/02/20 3:06:23 PM #31: |
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freespeechfoot 06/02/20 3:06:39 PM #32: |
ZMythos posted...
1. I told you to close your account in another topic.Please go test that out and go get yourself arrested. --- i love democracy i love the republic AHHHHHHHHHHHH *ignites lightsaber and spins* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vivec 06/02/20 3:09:23 PM #33: |
Tmaster148 posted...
A new account defending Nazis. How original.If the username is any indication its madfoot, so nothing surprising there. --- RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 06/02/20 3:09:45 PM #34: |
freespeechfoot posted...
Please go test that out and go get yourself arrested. You sure seem to enjoy defending nazis. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 06/02/20 3:10:52 PM #35: |
i dont care and neither does anyone with a brain, hes trying to distract from all this shit happening right now by dredging up recognizable enemies for his base
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