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BathroomWater
06/01/20 6:50:38 AM
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abaddon41_80 posted...
I have never seen a topic end at post #3 but still somehow keep going for 50 more messages.

In a similar fashion, I have never seen you make a worthwhile post.

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abaddon41_80
06/01/20 6:53:33 AM
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BathroomWater posted...
In a similar fashion, I have never seen you make a worthwhile post.

While I disagree with your opinion, I will defend to the death your right to have it.

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BathroomWater
06/01/20 6:55:04 AM
#54:


abaddon41_80 posted...
While I disagree with your opinion, I will defend to the death your right to have it.

Righteous

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Malfunction
06/01/20 7:10:13 AM
#55:


viewmaster_pi posted...
that's not what you get on gfaqs to do
I mean yeah pretty much.

Why would I go on gamefaqs to engage in high school standard debates about police brutality with people who are clearly of no mind to change their own views. I'm not sure this is the epic own you think it is!

I actually express many totally earnest views on various things in gamefaqs and engage in many fun discussions excuse me if I don't think a guy who has spent the last 6 hours accusing people who support riots as a form of escalated direct action of being (a) unemployed or (b) privileged suburbanites or (c) violent fascists or (d) some combination in of the former 3 options is going to change his mind because I chose the right combination of words that unlocked something in his brain. Do you even believe that some heated debate will provide anything but self congratulatory mental masturbation? I don't think you do. I think even you can do better than Ben Shapiro esque 'debate me coward!' stuff.
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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:01:39 AM
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i didn't say i wanted to debate you, i said you're not capable of it anyway. believe it or not, talking politics isn't fun for me, just happens to be a hotbed for it here, especially lately

anyway if you truly "cba" to go back and forth for 20 posts, i don't know why you'd try and get my attention twice across seperate threads with your dry, sarcastic remarks to begin with, unless they only serve as "mental masturbation" as you put it, for yourself. like each quip is a little victory you can drag back to your rat nest and hide away in your own little world

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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:05:30 AM
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i love how you didn't even say people who support protests, you straight up went with riots as if that means something to anyone who isn't completely unhinged. this is why you don't get taken seriously by anyone. except for the other unhinged extreme leftists who think they're all the next Che Guevara

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:05:57 AM
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TC never posted in his terrible topic again after OP lol

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gamer167
06/01/20 8:06:58 AM
#59:


You would be cool with someone burning your house down?
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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:08:30 AM
#60:


gamer167 posted...
You would be cool with someone burning your house down?
it's worth it for justice

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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:09:11 AM
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The Trent posted...
TC never posted in his terrible topic again after OP lol
tbh, he probably knew exactly what he was doing...

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monkmith
06/01/20 8:11:49 AM
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another guy gets killed by the cops, and i've been pulled over for bad tickets, i'm gonna change the system by burning down my neighbors house!

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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:23:38 AM
#63:


i'm gonna change the system by posting anarchic anti-authoritarian rhetoric on gfaqs, and then tab back over to my doujin before going to my community college classes, paid for via grant by the government that i hate so much

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Veggeta X
06/01/20 8:29:30 AM
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Hope TC gets warned for believing this.

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Mecha Sonic
06/01/20 8:30:26 AM
#65:


Destruction of property is NOT violence

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:39:19 AM
#66:


Mecha Sonic posted...
Destruction of property is NOT violence

if i bring a sledgehammer and smash your television in an incredibly violent way, why is it not violence?

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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:41:08 AM
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i bet if i destroyed his sonic the hedgehog funko pops it'd suddenly be violence

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BathroomWater
06/01/20 8:43:30 AM
#69:


viewmaster_pi posted...
i'm gonna change the system by posting anarchic anti-authoritarian rhetoric on gfaqs, and then tab back over to my doujin before going to my community college classes, paid for via grant by the government that i hate so much

Generally speaking, people who hate the government for doing things like bombing hospitals and funneling money from the people to the wealthy elite dont hate when the government does something good like provide funding for higher education.

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:44:32 AM
#70:


Conflict posted...
Lol I didn't start hearing this shit until today

Listen I'm in support of rioters expressing themselves and sending their message but it's objectively violence. Let's not go down this path of stupidity

these guys have to constantly feel like the morally justified and superior good guys
they can't say "violence is bad" AND "destruction of property is violence" because it would cause a system malfunction

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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:44:38 AM
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can i "express myself" onto your personal property and belongings or what

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/01/20 8:46:15 AM
#72:


SH_expert44 posted...
violence
/v()lns/

noun

1. behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

You can't kill an inanimate object, clown.

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:46:54 AM
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that can't be how you read that

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:47:20 AM
#75:


Conflict posted...
Probably not

In more ideal circumstances they'd just be destroying corporations and not local businesses

in my ideal riot...

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:51:18 AM
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in my ideal riot the protestors throw cotton candy and when it hits you it doesn't even melt on your sweaty face

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:52:09 AM
#78:


Conflict posted...
Yes, I said 'ideal'. Livelihoods wouldn't be ruined from people smashing corporate businesses which exist all over the country

I wouldn't participate in a riot but it's not difficult to understand why people are doing it. And if you haven't said anything about what prompted said riots then I especially don't want to hear your opinion on them lol


lol what does this mean
oh yeah buddy well i don't want to hear YOUR opinion on them either!


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Mecha Sonic
06/01/20 8:54:59 AM
#80:


The Trent posted...
if i bring a sledgehammer and smash your television in an incredibly violent way, why is it not violence?

I would never, even before today, have equated this to violence

Destruction of my television =/= attempts to injure, kill, or maim another human being. Which is what violence is.

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viewmaster_pi
06/01/20 8:56:23 AM
#81:


those corporate businesses are still responsible for jobs and financial circulation in their cities, it's a hill and a half to climb for people who want to convince others that riots are some sort of chaotic good campaign

and after these businesses are gone, i can't imagine anyone rebuilding anything

why try and plant more crops in a field of nettles when they already strangled your harvest?

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:58:52 AM
#83:


Conflict posted...
It seems kinda clear what that meant

If you haven't commented on the murder and how fucked up it is yet you're front and center complaining about people destroying shit then it's not a very good look


the cops should not have killed that man

now that we're properly aligned on the crux of the issue can i continue my mockery

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The Trent
06/01/20 8:59:41 AM
#84:


Mecha Sonic posted...
I would never, even before today, have equated this to violence

Destruction of my television =/= attempts to injure, kill, or maim another human being. Which is what violence is.

have you considered the possibility that you may be in an overwhelming minority on the definition of this term?

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Mecha Sonic
06/01/20 9:01:32 AM
#85:


The Trent posted...
have you considered the possibility that you may be in an overwhelming minority on the definition of this term?

Have you considered you might be combining terms that have no right to be combined for the sake of neutering a protest movement?

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Veggeta X
06/01/20 9:01:38 AM
#86:


Regardless, what you guys are doing is tryna downplay property damage.

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The Trent
06/01/20 9:02:12 AM
#87:


so did the dictionary also combine terms that have no right to be combined?

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DarkKitsune69
06/01/20 9:03:14 AM
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Mecha Sonic posted...
Have you considered you might be combining terms that have no right to be combined for the sake of neutering a protest movement?

Bruh you are literally saying the dictionary is trying to neuter a protest movement

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The Trent
06/01/20 9:04:01 AM
#90:


Conflict posted...
Not really. That's about as genuine as Michael Richards' apology

it was as factual as can be
they killed that dude and it was fucked up
i'm sorry i won't use all the same terms and buzzwords that you want me to?

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KillerKhan420
06/01/20 9:05:26 AM
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It obviously is violence. Wtf, people like TC think you should be able to do whatever the hell you want with impunity. Why'd this guy shoot at me with gun I was just trying to throw fire on his house!

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Mecha Sonic
06/01/20 9:08:41 AM
#93:


DarkKitsune69 posted...
Bruh you are literally saying the dictionary is trying to neuter a protest movement

"Something" can be an animal, it can be a group, it can be a community or a race of people. It can't be a television set.

No normal person would be pushing for the same word -- "violent" -- to be used for attempted homicide and breaking a TV unless they had an agenda.

The World Health Organization's definition of violence is "the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation." That's violence.

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The Trent
06/01/20 9:10:07 AM
#94:


tell me more about the things you know about me and things i understand/don't understand based on our four post interaction of me mocking the idea that destroying property is not a violent act
i don't give a fuck about the riots, they don't affect me in any way
neither does the murder affect my life at all, but it's clearly more egregious than the riots
but i probably just don't understand the core issue and why people are angry

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The Trent
06/01/20 9:10:19 AM
#95:


Mecha Sonic posted...
"Something" can be an animal, it can be a group, it can be a community or a race of people. It can't be a television set.

what

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Mecha Sonic
06/01/20 9:10:57 AM
#96:


The Trent posted...
what

Dude nobody goes around saying "You have violent tendencies against TV sets" just stop

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The Trent
06/01/20 9:13:18 AM
#97:


Mecha Sonic posted...
Dude nobody goes around saying "You have violent tendencies against TV sets" just stop

oh

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DarkKitsune69
06/01/20 9:13:53 AM
#98:


Mecha Sonic posted...
The World Health Organization's definition of violence is "the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation." That's violence.

The WHO also said Covid is not contagious. Id rather trust a dictionary to give me the correct definition of a word than the WHO but you do you king

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Mecha Sonic
06/01/20 9:17:33 AM
#99:


DarkKitsune69 posted...
The WHO also said Covid is not contagious. Id rather trust a dictionary to give me the correct definition of a word than the WHO but you do you king

Good one bro. You just tipped your hand though. Like WHO's COVID-19 response has got anything to do with what violence is or isn't. It's obvious what your motivations are, you just let your politics shine through, so gg to your bad-faith argument.

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averagejoel
06/01/20 9:19:55 AM
#100:


monkmith posted...
another guy gets killed by the cops, and i've been pulled over for bad tickets, i'm gonna change the system by burning down my neighbors house!
burning random buildings is a demonstrably effective means of protest. it creates a social and economic crisis for the mayor, forcing them to deal with it. it forces accountability

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The Trent
06/01/20 9:20:53 AM
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yeah for the person doing the burning lol

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