Current Events > Just remember: You can rebuild property.

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You can't rebuild a life.

Frankenstein would disagree

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And if the loss of that property leads to a chain of events that leads to one or more suicides? It's not just "lol insurance and everything is peachy!" in all cases.

nemu posted...

And if the loss of that property leads to a chain of events that leads to one or more suicides? It's not just "lol insurance and everything is peachy!" in all cases.

lol shut up

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Multiple onlookers peacefully begged the police officers to let the man breathe. Everyone who was there looking at the situation recognized George Floyd was about to die.

Riots are one of the unfortunate consequences of desperate peaceful pleas being deliberately ignored. A riot is never a unified front.

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EnragedSlith posted...

lol shut up

Do you think it's an unrealistic possibility for someone to lose their business, have it never recover, become destitute, and end it all? Do you think that's not a thing that happens even without insane people wantonly setting things ablaze?

We got the technology!

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nemu posted...

Do you think it's an unrealistic possibility for someone to lose their business, have it never recover, become destitute, and end it all? Do you think that's not a thing that happens even without insane people wantonly setting things ablaze?

youre almost there, tiki torch


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EnragedSlith posted...

youre almost there, tiki torch

Corrupt police ending innocent lives = bad
Corrupt protestors ending innocent lives = good
Good to know.

Here's a quick example of why this topic misses the mark.

One of the businesses that was looted and destroyed was owned by a relative. It was an auto shop. Insurance will cover what happened to the structure of the building. It will not cover the loss of personal property (mechanics tools, customer vehicles, etc.)

This will be a total loss to the business, they will not recover, they will not reopen. After all is said and done, the relative, who spent 20 years building this business will have not only lost everything, but so will all the employees.

There are over 170+ businesses that have been affected by the looting. The majority of them are small business owners that will potentially lose everything.

Innocent lives are being destroyed. Commenting that you can just rebuild property is utterly naive.

nemu posted...

Corrupt police ending innocent lives = bad
Corrupt protestors ending innocent lives = good
Good to know.

'bOtH siDeS!!!11!1!!!!!"

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BGleason22 posted...

Here's a quick example of why this topic misses the mark.

One of the businesses that was looted and destroyed was owned by a relative. It was an auto shop. Insurance will cover what happened to the structure of the building. It will not cover the loss of personal property (mechanics tools, customer vehicles, etc.)

This will be a total loss to the business, they will not recover, they will not reopen. After all is said and done, the relative, who spent 20 years building this business will have not only lost everything, but so will all the employees.

There are over 170+ businesses that have been affected by the looting. The majority of them are small business owners that will potentially lose everything.

Innocent lives are being destroyed. Commenting that you can just rebuild property is utterly naive.

Are these people dying though?

That's the important bit.

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

'bOtH siDeS!!!11!1!!!!!"

Yes, contrary to that shitty talking point, criticizing both sides for their faults and trying not to completely demonize the side with you you disagree (within reason, demonization may sometimes be justified) is generally the most mature response. You can say protests in response to this whole situation were just, but rioting and looting is stupid.

One_Day_Remains posted...

Are these people dying though?

That's the important bit.

Apparently you can concoct some imaginative scenario where someone could get depressed and commit suicide, so yes apparently "both sides".

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CyricZ posted...

Apparently you can concoct some imaginative scenario where someone could get depressed and commit suicide, so yes apparently "both sides".

Only if you're naive enough to think losing your entire livelihood is something from which you can easily recover. Surprised you're of the "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality.

DyingPancake posted...

Frankenstein would disagree

Who do you think you are, my dear boy? The modern Prometheus?

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There are some cases where being center is just being tone deaf. I'm not sitting here celebrating riots and neither are most people, but I'd have to be an idiot not to understand the anger and the trend of events that prompted them.

You're over here talking about "what if they lose their business and commit suicide". Well, that's a possibility and it would be a tragic one. But humans have been able to come back from situations that they had almost no business coming back from. So that's all it is is a possibility. And the probability of someone recovering from a complete shitshow of circumstances is higher than the probability of a dead person coming back to life.

Trump has clearly shown that he'll gladly sacrifice the lives of 100 thousand Americans for a thriving economy.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Are these people dying though?

That's the important bit.

The important bit is that these people are also completely innocent. You seem to miss that part.

BGleason22 posted...

The important bit is that these people are also completely innocent. You seem to miss that part.

Okay. But are they dying though?

If they're not getting killed, it's not going to be equal. You can see my previous post for why.

So what you're saying is rioting is okay.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

There are some cases where being center is just being tone deaf. I'm not sitting here celebrating riots and neither are most people, but I'd have to be an idiot not to understand the anger and the trend of events that prompted them.

You're over here talking about "what if they lose their business and commit suicide". Well, that's a possibility and it would be a tragic one. But humans have been able to come back from situations that they had almost no business coming back from. So that's all it is is a possibility. And the possibility of someone recovering from a complete shitshow of circumstances is higher than the possibility of a dead person coming back to life.

The ironic thing is you're sitting right in the center of your own issue. You don't appear do be condoning the property damage, but you certainly aren't condemning either with you here you are playing damage control by using the "it's just property" excuse. If there is a possibility of someone dying, you cannot use that excuse to justify anything. They are no better than those they condemn or the system they hate. Those committing these actions out of what they think is justice are using their justified rage to commit the unjustified. Though obviously some are just people who don't give a fuck either way using this chaos to perpetuate more chaos.

Solid Sonic posted...

So what you're saying is rioting is okay.

I mean yeah, you could say that if you're a completely lazy reader who has zero interest in grasping the point

Solid Sonic posted...

So what you're saying is rioting is okay.

No.
However, cops killing civilians isn't either and we're the ones who pay the wages of the police for them to protect us, not kill us.

The rioting is the effect of the blatant disregard for the murder of George Floyd as his killer hasn't been arrested yet.

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So if this happened in your city you'd be fine and dandy with your car being torched or your windows getting broken or your business being robbed? Replaceable/fixable, right?

Of course murder is worse. The vast majority of people having their property damaged by riots in Minnesota had zilch to do with that, though.

You're allowed to think both the cause and response are bad.

And all tat being said, a shitload of cops should be arrested up there for resorting to violence so quickly and if it's proven any were involved in escalating protests to riots then lock 'em away forever.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Okay. But are they dying though?

If they're not getting killed, it's not going to be equal. You can see my previous post for why.

Your logic is asinine. I can't reply to this garbage anymore.

K181 posted...

So if this happened in your city you'd be fine and dandy with your car being torched or your windows getting broken or your business being robbed? Replaceable/fixable, right?

Of course murder is worse. The vast majority of people having their property damaged by riots in Minnesota had zilch to do with that, though.

You're allowed to think both the cause and response are bad.

And all tat being said, a shitload of cops should be arrested up there for resorting to violence so quickly and if it's proven any were involved in escalating protests to riots then lock 'em away forever.

Check out this guy being logical and reasonable on the internet.

I hate to tell you but if you do not support senseless rioting and destruction of property that does nothing to further a cause, you are likely a racist. If you do not believe that the overwhelming majority of the looters are doing it in support of George Floyd, because looting in support of someone who was killed makes a lot of sense, you are likely an alt-right Trump supporter.

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Bad behavior doesn't excuse more bad behavior

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nemu posted...

The ironic thing is you're sitting right in the center of your own issue. You don't appear do be condoning the property damage, but you certainly aren't condemning either with you here playing damage control by using the "it's just property" excuse. If there is a possibility of someone dying, you cannot use that excuse to justify anything. They are no better than those they condemn or the system they hate. Those committing these actions out of what they think is justice are using their justified rage to commit the unjustified. Though obviously some are just people who don't give a fuck either way using this chaos to perpetuate more chaos.

So I'm sitting in center, yet you're mad at me for leaning towards a side you don't approve of. I don't think that you can have it both ways big guy.

And yeah, it is 'just' property. Property can rebuilt, or replaced with something else. You can have different property suit your needs. Lives aren't the same.

And truth is, nobody is really interested in hearing people condemn protestors or rioters. I suppose the people who live in the area have a good alibi since they're scared and their safety is being threatened, but that's it. These people didn't wake up looking to destroy Minneapolis. They're angry, they're sick, and 'peaceful' methods have proven to be unsuccessful. How else are they going to get their voices heard?

EnragedSlith posted...

lol shut up

He's not wrong though.

BGleason22 posted...

Your logic is asinine. I can't reply to this garbage anymore.

Of course you can't. Because you have no rebuttal. And you also didn't seem to understand the very obvious point from the getgo

you can't rebuild property if you don't have any money

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The mod who is abusing his authority will warn me regardles of what I have to say on this matter. He'll say I'm being offensive or trolling. I literally can't discuss current events anymore.

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Such a childish and immature way to look at the current situation.

People who think this way live in their moms basement and their only worldly possession is probably their PlayStation.

Orlando_Jordan posted...

The mod who is abusing his authority will warn me regardles of what I have to say on this matter. He'll say I'm being offensive or trolling. I literally can't discuss current events anymore.

I'm playing the world's smallest violin.

gamer167 posted...

Such a childish and immature way to look at the current situation.

People who think this way live in their moms basement and their only worldly possession is probably their PlayStation.

I live with a roommate and don't have a PlayStation.

Next.

Orlando_Jordan posted...

The mod who is abusing his authority will warn me regardles of what I have to say on this matter. He'll say I'm being offensive or trolling. I literally can't discuss current events anymore.

..... Mr. President? Is that you?

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