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Garioshi
05/28/20 8:47:41 PM
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I'm about 25 hours in (last thing i remember doing is finishing my business in the orphanage with billy) and it really feels like the game is just yanking my chain at this point.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:06:41 PM
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yo hol up is that raphael


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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:10:30 PM
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God damn Billy's backstory is fucked up

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Veggeta X
05/28/20 9:11:09 PM
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This game drags a ton.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:11:58 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
This game drags a ton.
Absolutely. It's such a slog at times.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:27:42 PM
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oh my god i hate the encounter rate

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k debonair
05/28/20 9:29:02 PM
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disk 2 is at about the 45-50 hour mark.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:30:33 PM
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I just marathoned 3 Resident Evils that use square for the run button and I keep bringing up the menu when I don't want to

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ScazarMeltex
05/28/20 9:31:00 PM
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Spooking posted...
The pacing isn't the best in Xenogears.

Garioshi posted...
oh my god i hate the encounter rate
I feel like it's the absurd encounter rate coupled with the length of the some of the dungeons and the grindiness of leveling the combos that fucks up the pacing.
It's not Beyond the Beyond rate of encounters but it's pretty funking bonkers.

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JuanCarlos1
05/28/20 9:31:16 PM
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Yes...its very late into the game. Like more than 70% in. I didnt hate it as much as I was told, especially since you're already advised and even with that I probably finished the game around 70+ hours.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:47:28 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Yes...its very late into the game. Like more than 70% in. I didnt hate it as much as I was told, especially since you're already advised and even with that I probably finished the game around 70+ hours.
How the hell is this game going to keep itself interesying for 50 more hours

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:54:50 PM
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This encounter rate is legitimately unacceptable wtf is this shit

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Garioshi
05/28/20 9:56:36 PM
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that's just a reskin of redrum

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ScazarMeltex
05/28/20 9:57:14 PM
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Garioshi posted...
that's just a reskin of redrum
That's pretty standard for JRPGs of that era.

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k debonair
05/28/20 9:58:18 PM
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if you're not enjoying the game at 25 hours in, maybe it's not for you.
that being said, the next few hours of the game are when the plot starts coming together and making sense.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 10:00:34 PM
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k debonair posted...
if you're not enjoying the game at 25 hours in, maybe it's not for you.
that being said, the next few hours of the game are when the plot starts coming together and making sense.
About damn time!

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Garioshi
05/28/20 10:04:13 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
That's pretty standard for JRPGs of that era.
My beloved Chrono Cross doesn't have that issue

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Garioshi
05/28/20 10:46:31 PM
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Well this is fucked up

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Pancake
05/28/20 10:48:16 PM
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God damn Billy's backstory is fucked up

and then a little later

oh my god i hate the encounter rate

lol, i think i know exactly where you are.
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Garioshi
05/28/20 10:52:12 PM
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I never thought Xenogears would touch on the pedophilia in the Catholic Church, but here we are.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 11:01:28 PM
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Must be said, though, it keeps suprising me just how hard PS1 and PS2 JRPGs beat down on religion.

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Garioshi
05/28/20 11:11:39 PM
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This cutscene (reapers attacking the oil rig city) looks rushed as fuck

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Garioshi
05/28/20 11:40:45 PM
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God damn why does this game have a fake door fetish

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Veggeta X
05/28/20 11:44:52 PM
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Garioshi posted...
God damn why does this game have a fake door fetish
LMAO

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Garioshi
05/28/20 11:52:48 PM
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Man I sure do love doing the exact same battle like 10 times

If the combat in this game were remotely engaging, I might be singing another tune, but I can beat every battle with the same 4-button sequence.

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Naysaspace
05/28/20 11:53:54 PM
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once you switch disks the game is basically over. Disk 2 is the final boss and also a narration of the 2nd half of the story because some jagoff middle management hotshot needed his project to meet a deadline so he could get his bonus.
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Garioshi
05/29/20 12:04:46 AM
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Every single part of this area looks the damn same and I can't keep my orientation straight because these battles all take 2 minutes and I get like 10 seconds between them

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SpaceBear_
05/29/20 12:09:33 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Must be said, though, it keeps suprising me just how hard PS1 and PS2 JRPGs beat down on religion.

Misson 1: Find the missing kitty!
Mission 100: Kill God!

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Garioshi
05/29/20 2:07:35 AM
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The worst part of the encounter rate is you can hear the console "thinking" and then you know you're not getting 2 minutes of your life back

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Garioshi
05/29/20 2:49:09 AM
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Hello there Red Skull

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Garioshi
05/29/20 2:57:22 AM
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Some truly thoughtful commentary

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Garioshi
05/29/20 3:17:10 AM
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God, half this game is just people you don't know speaking about things you don't know and it just comes off as utter nonsense.

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loafy013
05/29/20 3:47:49 AM
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Garioshi posted...
God, half this game is just people you don't know speaking about things you don't know and it just comes off as utter nonsense.

Once you beat the game, or decide to stop playing, you should check out this link.

https://lparchive.org/Xenogears-(by-The-Dark-Id)/Citan/

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Garioshi
05/29/20 12:26:16 PM
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This platforming is actually the worst thing ever

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Villain
05/29/20 12:30:44 PM
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Garioshi posted...
This platforming is actually the worst thing ever
Oh man, tower of Babel?

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Garioshi
05/29/20 12:32:30 PM
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Villain posted...
Oh man, tower of Babel?
Yep, unfortunately.

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Villain
05/29/20 12:38:04 PM
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I think I spent an hour on that way back in 2001

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Shotgunnova
05/29/20 12:48:55 PM
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Garioshi posted...

Some truly thoughtful commentary
It's even funnier considering how Jessie's Buntline attack goes.

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DevsBro
05/29/20 12:50:19 PM
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I'd put the disc swap somewhere around 70-80% of the way through.

And yeah, the majority of the game is one overly indepth party member introduction after another, with the occasional Elly interlude.

Fortunately, you're about to start getting somewhere.

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DevsBro
05/29/20 12:52:23 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
It's even funnier considering how Jessie's Buntline attack goes.
Oh man I never thought of that lol.

The whole thing never did make sense lol.

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DevsBro
05/29/20 12:55:20 PM
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Garioshi posted...
God, half this game is just people you don't know speaking about things you don't know and it just comes off as utter nonsense.
It actually isn't much better about that on a subsequent playthrough.

Basically anytime the floaty TV ball guys are onscreen, it's like it's just there to remind you that you don't have the slightest clue what's going on.

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k debonair
05/29/20 12:59:45 PM
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I'd disagree. everything makes sense on a second play once you know the whole story. if there's something you still don't get, post it here and we someone will explain.

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Villain
05/29/20 1:06:26 PM
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Disc 2 is basically a genre switch lol.

Disc 1 is a jrpg

Disc 2 is a visual novel

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Garioshi
05/29/20 1:43:02 PM
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These elevators might be even worse

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The Rogue Cobra
05/29/20 1:45:09 PM
#46:


Tower of Babel eh?

The juicy stuff in the plot is coming so if that doesn't hit, game just wasn't your cup of tea.

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Garioshi
05/29/20 1:47:43 PM
#47:


Okay, I'm almost level 50. Does that mean I'm about halfway done?

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The Rogue Cobra
05/29/20 1:51:40 PM
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More than that, you're probably 65%

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Garioshi
05/29/20 1:55:24 PM
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The Rogue Cobra posted...
More than that, you're probably 65%
Good, feels like I've been doing absolutely nothing.

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k debonair
05/29/20 2:05:55 PM
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If the Zeboim ruins and Babel tower didn't make you curious yet, then probably nothing in the game will.

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