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DarkRoast
05/27/20 11:58:11 AM
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Or at least whatever the most asshole-ish thing you can choose.

My hero in DQXI is essentially the world's most unwilling protagonist.

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MC_BatCommander
05/27/20 11:59:19 AM
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"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No

I always thought the fake choice was really silly. Like why even put that in there

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PatrickMahomes
05/27/20 12:00:16 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No
came in to post this

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AssGender
05/27/20 12:00:30 PM
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Will u buy xenoblade cheonicles 2?

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Ving_Rhames
05/27/20 12:02:28 PM
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I want a game where it has extreme/lasting consequences and people treat you differently for it going forward.

Or a game where picking the nice/"correct" choice ends up being the wrong thing, deconstructing ideal heroism and whatnot eventually.

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Hambo the Hog
05/27/20 12:02:57 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No
*chooses no 76 times in a row*
*chooses yes*

"Oh thank you! You are truly a hero for the ages!"

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DevsBro
05/27/20 12:06:53 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No

I always thought the fake choice was really silly. Like why even put that in there
Most often it feels like a budget thing. Maybe they ask you if you're ready before every mission, so rather than make this one an exception, they found it easier to just loop back around. Or maybe they were going to flesh out the refuse option and ran out of money or something.

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Alpha218
05/27/20 12:09:28 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Or at least whatever the most asshole-ish thing you can choose.

My hero in DQXI is essentially the world's most unwilling protagonist.
The responses you get are hilarious sometimes. Like how Jade is stretching her leg right next to your neck, or how Veronica goes full... Veronica

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DevsBro
05/27/20 12:10:14 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Or a game where picking the nice/"correct" choice ends up being the wrong thing, deconstructing ideal heroism and whatnot eventually.
I've seen this a few times. In KotOR, for example, you have to bribe somebody to testify falsely in court, complete with earning dark side points, in order for the trial to have its best resolution.

Then there are a couple of times when the answer that's framed as correct is politically-loaded, which ugh.

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FabIemaster
05/27/20 12:13:53 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
I want a game where it has extreme/lasting consequences and people treat you differently for it going forward.

Or a game where picking the nice/"correct" choice ends up being the wrong thing, deconstructing ideal heroism and whatnot eventually.

In the original Golden Sun if you choose no to accepting the quest to retrieve the elemental stars, you'll walk out of the sanctum and get a bad ending.

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sauceje
05/27/20 12:14:42 PM
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Then sometimes it just ends the game right there and then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-HWtdOKZXk

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fhqwhgads
05/27/20 12:15:29 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No

I always thought the fake choice was really silly. Like why even put that in there
I hate that shit

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KamenRiderBlade
05/27/20 1:07:52 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Or at least whatever the most asshole-ish thing you can choose.

My hero in DQXI is essentially the world's most unwilling protagonist.
Why does that remind me of "SaGa Frontier" for some reason.

I loved that game back in the day.

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AssGender
05/27/20 1:12:34 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
Why does that remind me of "SaGa Frontier" for some reason.

I loved that game back in the day.
U played it on the ds?

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KamenRiderBlade
05/27/20 2:27:31 PM
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AssGender posted...
U played it on the ds?
PS1

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Pancake
05/27/20 2:28:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--hA0yFrXUc

also saga frontier was *awesome* maybe it reminds you because you never actually had to do the main quest
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KamenRiderBlade
05/27/20 2:33:45 PM
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Pancake posted...
also saga frontier was *awesome* maybe it reminds you because you never actually had to do the main quest
=D

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DrizztLink
05/27/20 2:35:16 PM
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Pancake
05/27/20 2:35:54 PM
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lol get me started on that game. like you take doubleslash and it's actually two attacks and not just one for twice the damage and an animation -- i love stuff like that.
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Smackems
05/27/20 2:39:28 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No

I always thought the fake choice was really silly. Like why even put that in there
Sometimes you get a game over if you say no so that's special

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KamenRiderBlade
05/27/20 2:41:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3oWu39iO1E

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UnfairRepresent
05/27/20 2:42:19 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
"will you take on this quest?"

-Yes
-No

*choose no*

"come on stop messing around!"

"will you take on this quest?"
-Yes
-No

I always thought the fake choice was really silly. Like why even put that in there

In FFIX if you say no (Well intentionally lie about what your goal is) like 96 times, a character runs in the room and yells at you.
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Ricemills
05/27/20 3:22:27 PM
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Suikoden 2 supposed to have an Easter egg if you refused to jump into the cliff 108x, but I never tried it myself.

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DarkRoast
05/27/20 4:53:36 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
I want a game where it has extreme/lasting consequences and people treat you differently for it going forward.

Or a game where picking the nice/"correct" choice ends up being the wrong thing, deconstructing ideal heroism and whatnot eventually.

The Persona games often let you actually take an evil route, sometimes without you directly knowing. Persona 4's was particularly interesting, because it dramatically changes the ending narrative.


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FL81
05/27/20 4:56:00 PM
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Posted this in the last topic, but I still love this moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcSRgfpP9ko

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DarkRoast
05/27/20 4:56:14 PM
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DevsBro posted...
I've seen this a few times. In KotOR, for example, you have to bribe somebody to testify falsely in court, complete with earning dark side points, in order for the trial to have its best resolution.

Then there are a couple of times when the answer that's framed as correct is politically-loaded, which ugh.

In the first Mass Effect, there's a hostage standoff that only ends with everyone alive if you choose the Renegade option. Although, to be fair, Renegade isn't necessarily evil. It's more sort of a chaotic neutral.

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DevsBro
05/27/20 5:00:57 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
In the first Mass Effect, there's a hostage standoff that only ends with everyone alive if you choose the Renegade option. Although, to be fair, Renegade isn't necessarily evil. It's more sort of a chaotic neutral.
If that's the one I'm thinking of, it was so dang awkward how this guy--I forget it's been forever--but he either just died or he's standing there with a gun pointed at this woman and she's just like "you're a great scientist, daughter" like they were out at lunch partaking in a pep talk.

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BottomAssButt
05/27/20 5:05:03 PM
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I think da problem is dev writershave a story in their heads, so tip make branching story choices kinda upsets their vision prob.

Some games have an alignment system though like Ogre Battle.

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Tsukasa1891
05/27/20 5:56:38 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
I want a game where it has extreme/lasting consequences and people treat you differently for it going forward.

Or a game where picking the nice/"correct" choice ends up being the wrong thing, deconstructing ideal heroism and whatnot eventually.
If you haven't already, try out Dragon Age Origins. It doesn't have any extreme/lasting consequences, but not all the main quest have a obvious good ending and one of them makes it so choosing the obvious good ending flips the switch in the prologue making you ask your self what did I just do, then to top it off, the obvious bad choice has a good prologue ending.
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DarkRoast
05/27/20 6:12:21 PM
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For what it's worth, Far Cry 4 has perhaps the most clever "choice ending"

Either of the two options turn out to be absolute garbage, albeit for entirely different reasons. But the hidden third choice is to simply hear out the "bad guy" before the game even begins, only to find out that he's probably the least of the three evils.

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PurestProdigy
05/27/20 6:21:35 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
I want a game where it has extreme/lasting consequences

Golden Sun, Suikoden II, and Breath of Fire 2 are three games I can think of that you can force an early game over/bad end by making such a choice when it is seemingly innocuous.

In Golden Sun, you can deny being sent on the journey to begin with which will trigger it, in Suikoden II you can decide that what you've been through has been too much on you and trigger an alternate ending 70% of the way through the game, and in Breath of Fire II it's really irritating because they ask you to go on after a very aggravating boss fight and make it seem like a point of no return and ask you if you want to take a breather first and choosing it triggers the bad end and you have to fight the boss over.

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PurestProdigy
05/27/20 6:22:39 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Suikoden 2 supposed to have an Easter egg if you refused to jump into the cliff 108x, but I never tried it myself.

The intro which is normally in monochrome becomes fully colored. Totally not worth it. Especially if you're chasing after Elza.

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PurestProdigy
05/27/20 6:23:27 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
In FFIX if you say no (Well intentionally lie about what your goal is) like 96 times, a character runs in the room and yells at you.

I think it's 64 for Ruby to do that.

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