Board 8 > Jojo Mafia Topic 2: Battle Tendency

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Damion, would you vote to lynch Sceptile now?

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Caught up

MZero posted...

heya bolt why do you think Red is town for being here but not playing? I would think the opposite if anything!

My experiences playing with town red are that he's basically inert for the first couple of days and comes online when we finally start actually having information to work off. He's good at collating data and drawing conclusions from it. As scum he starts off a bit stronger because he already has enough information to work on and a job to do. Right now he's basically inert.

DamionDL posted...

Speaking of Bolt. So you say you focus more on pushing people? Who are you pushing?

No fucking body because town is doing fuck all besides Han. I tried to help him pressure Scept but nobody was interested. Its looking like good old fashion rando-lynch D1
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So do you try to pressure people or do you just try to help other people pressure people, Bolt?

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In fact, IGCD, more of your posts back called Plum actually scum then stated you were just trolling him.
Seeing the latter posts now, its no wonder I assumed you werent talking about Plum being scum as a whole.
I just assumed you were trolling him while also thinking he was scum.
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Firebolt why do you lean town on me?
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(I also am pretty sure I tried to do something for once. But sure only Han tried stuff)
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DamionDL posted...

So do you try to pressure people or do you just try to help other people pressure people, Bolt?

Depends on how much weight I have to sling around. I'm not well known on here so I can't attract a crowd through sheer force of personality. With some good facts to back it or a power role to play with I'll absolutely start pushing a wagon up hill, vocal and loud, by myself against the entire rest of town if I need to. Of course, I have none of that on D1 so its easier to let someone more well known lead. Ideally we'd almost lynch Scept enough to wring something out of him and it'd be good enough to placate Han OR damning enough to finish Scept. Either way hopefully Han would move on to his next most juicy target afterwards.
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Your read on sceptile is that you just don't like him, Han? Like I get he hasn't really been putting down any concrete reads but I don't think that's inherently scummy

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So basically the "pressure" you have is just your one vote and that's supposed to mean something, bolt?

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lea you haven't really voted that many people, whats up with that?

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htaeD posted...

Firebolt why do you lean town on me?

You're in here poking and prodding for information, like with this exact post. You're doing the smart D1 townie thing, not screaming someone needs to die or pushing an objective. Town needs to dig for information early, scum does not. You're probably a good enough player to potentially still do that as scum but I'd be watching you to be more vocal about needing a mislynch. That's why its a town lean and not a strong read. Not enough data to safely call you one of the herd yet.
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Let's juice things up.

##unvote: scept

##vote: damion

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DamionDL posted...

So basically the "pressure" you have is just your one vote and that's supposed to mean something, bolt?

Are you trying to suggest anyone has more than that day 1 lmao? What a useless post.
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Leanansidhe posted...

I'm just supporting Han, and it's not very supportive to jump off at the first shiny squirrel. Also I don't have any ideas and am colouring my hair all day

You're usually more hoppy

Color me surprised

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Let's juice things up.

I'm ok with this since Corrik has quit working the Death angle.

##Unvote
##Vote: Damion
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Wouldn't be the first time you've pushed my mislynch MVP Han.

Bolt, I'm suggesting that all you've done today is posture and say you'll prove yourself town and that all your play is pressuring people. To me pressure is talking to people, asking questions, trying to slip someone up. Not blindly following lynch trains hoping that it does something.

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fire_bolt posted...

You're in here poking and prodding for information, like with this exact post. You're doing the smart D1 townie thing, not screaming someone needs to die or pushing an objective. Town needs to dig for information early, scum does not. You're probably a good enough player to potentially still do that as scum but I'd be watching you to be more vocal about needing a mislynch. That's why its a town lean and not a strong read. Not enough data to safely call you one of the herd yet.

I see.
Thank you for clarifying but it doesnt make your vote on me look that much better...
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Ninja'd of course.

Also...wait, firebolt
How the hell can you tell what Corrik is not working on anymore?
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Fastbreak posted...

You're usually more hoppy

Color me surprised

My last game with Lea she dick rode Chris so hard that she didn't hop off even after he died. He posted a scum read list day 1, died night 1 (thru me trying to cover him as doc) and then Lea basically solo'd the rest of scum team via the power of being cop and going thru Chris's list. Chris isn't here so I'm just assuming she's latched on to Han as the most charismatic townie
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Leanansidhe posted...

##unvote

##vote: Damion

Let's sacrifice Damion to our God to ensure a bountiful win for town, like the last game

Cute timing

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htaeD posted...

How the hell can you tell what Corrik is not working on anymore?

Cuz he's not in here posting? Or at least not calling you scum who needs to die. I'd need to ISO his most recent post.
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DamionDL posted...

Bolt, I'm suggesting that all you've done today is posture and say you'll prove yourself town and that all your play is pressuring people. To me pressure is talking to people, asking questions, trying to slip someone up. Not blindly following lynch trains hoping that it does something.

If you think I've not been prodding people for information then you've clearly not been reading the game.
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Lmao. You've been calling people dumbasses for daring to question you and just repeating that you're town and that you pressure people. I'll look through your posts again but I remember you popping in just to insult people that mention you.

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fire_bolt posted...

Cuz he's not in here posting? Or at least not calling you scum who needs to die. I'd need to ISO his most recent post.

His last post was calling me scum as per usual, so I was wondering why you assumed he had stopped.
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Han, can you explain your vote to us lesser beings?
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Up to page 6, Death, your explanations are weak and I do not accept them.

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Sceptilesolar posted...

I do not wish to claim.

##Unvote
##Vote: Puns

Here's someone who seems to be coasting. I don't remember too much of how people play but I know puns is a veteran. He has a good number of posts in the first topic but few are all that substantive, so it rubs me the wrong way.

Who were you on prior to this vote and why?

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Up to page 6, Death, your explanations are weak and I do not accept them.

Which explanations?
Why dont you accept them?
Have a civil discussion with me here.
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Fastbreak posted...

The Book has been replaced with... bbq?

And your Mason buddy isn't on there?

I do not trust in your tangy smoky town reads

Which town reads dont you like?

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Damion has been mostly in the shadows this game. He has not stuck out. Also, his hard defense of Sceptile on this page.

Consider the following (insert jerking head motions):

A - masterplum. Masterplum, in his goal to find Scum and Town, has (incorrectly) said that Sceptile's posting habits are not indicative of Scum. While he is wrong, he is logically considering the angle.

B - Damion. Damion is not considering whether or not Sceptile is Scum. If so, he'd have looked at arguments and formed his own opinions. He puts the onus of trains on others, and feeling like he can get away with leaving them alone, does not actually consider if Sceptile is Scum. He just posits the idea around being my opinion.


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Leanansidhe posted...

Puns is scum, but I don't see any reason Sceptile couldn't be scum yet. I totally get and agree with people who says he's playing very detached. Bloodless. Soulless. A scummy ghost who does not understand town mortal affairs

I don't like this post. While I haven't quite understood the scept train at all, this post feels malicious.

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htaeD posted...

His last post was calling me scum as per usual, so I was wondering why you assumed he had stopped.

Backing him was whimsical in the first place but I know Corrik has a strong enough personality to rally town against you if he tried. He's not really done that other than tossing occasional shade. Back to hoping Han can get something done today instead. At this point I've basically accepted town is doing nothing important today and am just here chatting while I have some down time
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I feel like town is doing plenty of important stuff.
For day1.
Again I dont like you underplaying it, even if I can accept wanting to take it easy on day1.
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Also thats a good enough explanation for Damion being suspect, Han.
Gotta check for myself too tho.
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I mean, I've looked at the arguments and my opinion is that I don't have a read on scept

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I've either been ignoring all of Damion's posts or he has been very "in the shadows", yes.

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htaeD posted...

Is it really that hard to believe, IGCD, that I thought you wanting me to vote Plum was because of a genuine reason?

So you are are saying you voted him because I wanted you to, but you unvoted him because he explained away your reasoning for voting him?

!!!!!

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fire_bolt posted...

Depends on how much weight I have to sling around. I'm not well known on here so I can't attract a crowd through sheer force of personality. With some good facts to back it or a power role to play with I'll absolutely start pushing a wagon up hill, vocal and loud, by myself against the entire rest of town if I need to. Of course, I have none of that on D1 so its easier to let someone more well known lead. Ideally we'd almost lynch Scept enough to wring something out of him and it'd be good enough to placate Han OR damning enough to finish Scept. Either way hopefully Han would move on to his next most juicy target afterwards.

Vote death.

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Leanansidhe posted...

I'm just supporting Han, and it's not very supportive to jump off at the first shiny squirrel. Also I don't have any ideas and am colouring my hair all day

Vote death

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Let's juice things up.

##unvote: scept

##vote: damion

Vote Death

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DamionDL posted...

Wouldn't be the first time you've pushed my mislynch MVP Han.

Bolt, I'm suggesting that all you've done today is posture and say you'll prove yourself town and that all your play is pressuring people. To me pressure is talking to people, asking questions, trying to slip someone up. Not blindly following lynch trains hoping that it does something.

Vote Death

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

So you are are saying you voted him because I wanted you to, but you unvoted him because he explained away your reasoning for voting him?

!!!!!

Yes and no technically
Usually I am the kind of player that asks questions first and votes later. I likely would have voted Plum soon enough anyway.
So while your request to vote him did make me place the vote earlier than usual, it was not my reason for voting him. (that was the contradiction I found)

I unvoted because Plum explained both contradictions in a way that made them not contradictions anymore. (or at the very least I could not rule out that he was telling the truth about his thoughtpattern)

Also I kinda unvoted at that time because I would go to sleep and I figured I might as well do it then if I was feeling doubtful.
In hindsight I shouldve maybe have left it on to see how Plum would continue in my absence.
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fire_bolt posted...

Backing him was whimsical in the first place but I know Corrik has a strong enough personality to rally town against you if he tried. He's not really done that other than tossing occasional shade. Back to hoping Han can get something done today instead. At this point I've basically accepted town is doing nothing important today and am just here chatting while I have some down time

No he doesn't. Corrik can't rally shit.

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Like I dont see how this could even lead to this kind of bloodlust, IGCD
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I would too, if it wasnt utterly and completely misguided.

Its like he is the new Corrik.
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Leanansidhe posted...

I like this new proactive IGCD

This is the IGCD I've been waiting to see.

https://i.imgur.com/0hQyd5L.gif
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