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parabola_master 05/20/20 10:17:22 PM #1:	I know it's a dumb question but which punctuation is correct: "Do it now. Sometimes later becomes 'never.'" OR "Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'." It's a quotation so I do need the quotation marks around the entire thing, but I'm not sure if the quotation mark next to never comes before or after the period. Please help! --- i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg <cite>parabola_master posted [p:939471348] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>I know it's a dumb question but which punctuation is correct: "Do it now. Sometimes later becomes 'never.'" OR "Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'." It's a quotation so I do need the quotation marks around the entire thing, but I'm not sure if the quotation mark next to never comes before or after the period. Please help! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 05/20/20 10:20:10 PM #2:	pretty sure its the second. used to have a grammar handbook when i wrote a lot of reports, if i can find it i'll look it up because i actually remember having this question... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:939471456] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>pretty sure its the second. used to have a grammar handbook when i wrote a lot of reports, if i can find it i'll look it up because i actually remember having this question... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pepper2012 05/20/20 10:20:41 PM #3:	2 <cite>pepper2012 posted [p:939471477] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blablablax17 05/20/20 10:21:04 PM #4:	2nd --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>blablablax17 posted [p:939471494] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>2nd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/20/20 10:22:21 PM #5:	Always outside the period. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939471555] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Always outside the period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 05/20/20 10:32:28 PM #7:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... my wife says the punctuation should be in the quotations. Also she says "use a fucking comma" "Do it now, sometimes 'later' becomes 'never.'" That's a comma splice, so your supposed teacher wife needs to rethink her education. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939471994] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>my wife says the punctuation should be in the quotations. Also she says "use a fucking comma" "Do it now, sometimes 'later' becomes 'never.'"</quote>That's a comma splice, so your supposed teacher wife needs to rethink her education. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/20/20 10:33:34 PM #8:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... my wife says the punctuation should be in the quotations. Also she says "use a fucking comma" "Do it now, sometimes 'later' becomes 'never.'" Would a semicolon be better --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:939472029] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>my wife says the punctuation should be in the quotations. Also she says "use a fucking comma" "Do it now, sometimes 'later' becomes 'never.'"</quote>Would a semicolon be better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/20/20 10:33:56 PM #9:	Smackems posted... Would a semi colon be better semicolon or period works fine. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939472047] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Would a semi colon be better</quote>semicolon or period works fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 05/20/20 10:33:57 PM #10:	ASithLord7 posted... That's a comma splice, so your supposed teacher wife needs to rethink her education. Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though. --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:939472049] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>That's a comma splice, so your supposed teacher wife needs to rethink her education.</quote> Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/20/20 10:34:32 PM #11:	berlyman101 posted... Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though. Sure. Really just a matter of taste or emphasis. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939472076] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though.</quote>Sure. Really just a matter of taste or emphasis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 05/20/20 10:35:08 PM #12:	berlyman101 posted... Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though. I'll argue for a semicolon any day of the week --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:939472092] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though.</quote>I'll argue for a semicolon any day of the week </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 05/20/20 10:35:39 PM #13:	It bothers me that the period goes within quotations. Sure, we have the Brits beat by excising the superfluous u, but they have better grouping. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:939472112] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>It bothers me that the period goes within quotations. Sure, we have the Brits beat by excising the superfluous u, but they have better grouping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 05/20/20 10:36:19 PM #14:	I ain't no expert or nuthin but this is what I done did: "Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'". <cite>Stalolin posted [p:939472136] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>I ain't no expert or nuthin but this is what I done did: "Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 05/20/20 10:37:43 PM #16:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... you're supposed teacher wife well? --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939472184] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>you're supposed teacher wife</quote>well? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/20/20 10:38:23 PM #17:	parabola_master posted... "Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'." This is the correct way. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:939472218] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>parabola_master posted... </cite> <quote>"Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'."</quote> This is the correct way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/20/20 10:39:27 PM #18:	Shablagoo posted... This is the correct way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939472267] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>This is the correct way.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/20/20 10:45:14 PM #19:	You guys are wrong lol. Its only for dialogue that the quotation goes outside the period. Hes not saying later becomes never-period, hes saying later becomes never. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:939472532] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>You guys are wrong lol. Its only for dialogue that the quotation goes outside the period. Hes not saying later becomes never-period, hes saying later becomes never. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tainted_emerald 05/20/20 11:04:42 PM #21:	berlyman101 posted... Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though. I think a regular colon would fit better in this case. --- "Evil is what you make of it. Bind it to a higher purpose, and you will have altered its nature." - Gerald Tarrant <cite>tainted_emerald posted [p:939473307] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah. you could argue for a semicolon, though.</quote>I think a regular colon would fit better in this case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/20/20 11:05:53 PM #22:	tainted_emerald posted... I think a regular colon would fit better in this case. I'd strongly disagree. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939473355] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>tainted_emerald posted... </cite> <quote>I think a regular colon would fit better in this case.</quote>I'd strongly disagree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 05/20/20 11:15:07 PM #23:	tainted_emerald posted... I think a regular colon would fit better in this case. That wouldn't make sense. --- http://www.lukesurl.com/comics/2010-02-24-determinism.png <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:939473672] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>tainted_emerald posted... </cite> <quote>I think a regular colon would fit better in this case.</quote> That wouldn't make sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 05/21/20 2:08:24 AM #24:	parabola_master posted... "Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'." Who is the assigner/reviewer? Who is their audience? US: Do it "Now"; sometimes "Later" becomes "Never." UK: Do it 'Now'; sometimes 'Later' becomes 'Never'. --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:939479084] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>parabola_master posted... </cite> <quote>"Do it now. Sometimes 'later' becomes 'never'."</quote>Who is the assigner/reviewer? Who is their audience? US: Do it "Now"; sometimes "Later" becomes "Never." UK: Do it 'Now'; sometimes 'Later' becomes 'Never'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
parabola_master 05/21/20 2:27:55 AM #25:	Ok thank you all for replying lol but after this topic I feel more confused than ever So my university English professor assured me that the period always goes inside the quotation marks, but my brain hates that since it doesnt seem like the logical/aesthetic choice --- i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg i.imgur.com/mkGoWsg.jpg <cite>parabola_master posted [p:939479522] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Ok thank you all for replying lol but after this topic I feel more confused than ever So my university English professor assured me that the period always goes inside the quotation marks, but my brain hates that since it doesnt seem like the logical/aesthetic choice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/21/20 2:51:47 AM #26:	IIRC, American rules put the punctuation inside the quotes, and British rules put it outside. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:939480037] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>IIRC, American rules put the punctuation inside the quotes, and British rules put it outside.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 05/21/20 3:02:40 AM #27:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... my wife says the punctuation should be in the quotations. Also she says "use a fucking comma" "Do it now, sometimes 'later' becomes 'never.'" Your wife sounds like a bitch. --- Spider-Man 3 was a good movie. <cite>WarfireX posted [p:939480243] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>my wife says the punctuation should be in the quotations. Also she says "use a fucking comma" "Do it now, sometimes 'later' becomes 'never.'"</quote>Your wife sounds like a bitch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 05/21/20 3:18:19 AM #28:	parabola_master posted... ... my brain hates that since it doesnt seem like the logical/aesthetic choice Logic and convention frequently disagree. It's not really "a war of words"... it's more like "a struggle on how to best represent, in writing, the pauses [around each word]." --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:939480520] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>parabola_master posted... </cite> <quote>... my brain hates that since it doesnt seem like the logical/aesthetic choice</quote>Logic and convention frequently disagree. It's not really "a war of words"... it's more like "a struggle on how to best represent, in writing, the pauses [around each word]." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/21/20 3:53:18 AM #29:	parabola_master posted... Ok thank you all for replying lol but after this topic I feel more confused than ever So my university English professor assured me that the period always goes inside the quotation marks, but my brain hates that since it doesnt seem like the logical/aesthetic choice Seriously, he is wrong, lol. I mean maybe some people accept that but I even asked 2 people with Masters in Linguistics (an older friend of mine and my mom who has a couple of Masters degrees, the other being in I believe its called Information Technology or something like that shes been a librarian for ~50 years so whatever Masters you would have needed for the career back then is what it is). They both agreed with me that the 2nd (bottom) one is right. I personally also tested out of the highest levels of English classes when I applied for university and took the entrance/qualifying exam or whatever they call it. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:939481125] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>parabola_master posted... </cite> <quote>Ok thank you all for replying lol but after this topic I feel more confused than ever So my university English professor assured me that the period always goes inside the quotation marks, but my brain hates that since it doesnt seem like the logical/aesthetic choice</quote> Seriously, he is wrong, lol. I mean maybe some people accept that but I even asked 2 people with Masters in Linguistics (an older friend of mine and my mom who has a couple of Masters degrees, the other being in I believe its called Information Technology or something like that shes been a librarian for ~50 years so whatever Masters you would have needed for the career back then is what it is). They both agreed with me that the 2nd (bottom) one is right. I personally also tested out of the highest levels of English classes when I applied for university and took the entrance/qualifying exam or whatever they call it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andri_g 05/21/20 10:48:34 AM #30:	Shablagoo posted... ... I believe its called Information Technology or something like that Library/Information Architecture/Sciences (two-words; some combination of these). The name usually depends on when and where the program was offered. --- '~' <cite>andri_g posted [p:939489772] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>... I believe its called Information Technology or something like that</quote>Library/Information Architecture/Sciences (two-words; some combination of these). The name usually depends on when and where the program was offered. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 05/21/20 2:01:33 PM #32:	andri_g posted... Library/Information Architecture/Sciences (two-words; some combination of these). The name usually depends on when and where the program was offered. Information Sciences sounds right thanks! --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:939497924] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>andri_g posted... </cite> <quote>Library/Information Architecture/Sciences (two-words; some combination of these). The name usually depends on when and where the program was offered.</quote> Information Sciences sounds right thanks! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 05/21/20 2:03:08 PM #33:	The second version is correct but I suppose it depends on what youre talking about. Kind of overly wordy though. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:939498008] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>The second version is correct but I suppose it depends on what youre talking about. Kind of overly wordy though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/21/20 2:05:10 PM #34:	Shablagoo posted... Seriously, he is wrong, lol. I mean maybe some people accept that but No, he isn't. In American style this is correct. Also worth noting that a Master's in Linguistics doesn't necessarily necessitate knowledge of this. Most of linguistics is not necessarily concerned with orthography. --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:939498091] in Linguists/... [t:78706452]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Seriously, he is wrong, lol. I mean maybe some people accept that but</quote>No, he isn't. In American style this is correct. Also worth noting that a Master's in Linguistics doesn't necessarily necessitate knowledge of this. Most of linguistics is not necessarily concerned with orthography. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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