Poll of the Day > Lily Wachowski says F*** YOU to Elon Musk AND Ivanka Trump!!!

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abaddon41_80 05/20/20 7:28:09 AM #51:	ChaosAzeroth posted... Is my son no longer my son because of my social transition? He is still your son but you are no longer his father. I am not sure why this is so hard for many of you to understand. The Wachowski brothers do not exist anymore. If you say otherwise, you are disrespecting the wishes of the Wachowski sisters. Being as I am not transphobic, I will not do that. --- I HATE ALEX SMITH <cite>abaddon41_80 posted [p:939434827] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>ChaosAzeroth posted... </cite> <quote>Is my son no longer my son because of my social transition?</quote> He is still your son but you are no longer his father. I am not sure why this is so hard for many of you to understand. The Wachowski brothers do not exist anymore. If you say otherwise, you are disrespecting the wishes of the Wachowski sisters. Being as I am not transphobic, I will not do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sodium-chloride 05/20/20 8:47:56 AM #52:	abaddon41_80 posted... He is still your son but you are no longer his father. I am not sure why this is so hard for many of you to understand. The Wachowski brothers do not exist anymore. If you say otherwise, you are disrespecting the wishes of the Wachowski sisters. Being as I am not transphobic, I will not do that. No one is saying they can't be named something different or that they don't take on a new title. Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis. <cite>sodium-chloride posted [p:939436451] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>abaddon41_80 posted... </cite> <quote>He is still your son but you are no longer his father. I am not sure why this is so hard for many of you to understand. The Wachowski brothers do not exist anymore. If you say otherwise, you are disrespecting the wishes of the Wachowski sisters. Being as I am not transphobic, I will not do that.</quote> No one is saying they can't be named something different or that they don't take on a new title. Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
abaddon41_80 05/20/20 9:22:16 AM #53:	sodium-chloride posted... No one is saying they can't be named something different or that they don't take on a new title. Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis. That's facts. --- I HATE ALEX SMITH <cite>abaddon41_80 posted [p:939437380] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>sodium-chloride posted... </cite> <quote>No one is saying they can't be named something different or that they don't take on a new title. Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis.</quote> That's facts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 05/20/20 9:27:35 AM #54:	Fascism (/fzm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Well, it doesnt fully fit the definition, but its close. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:939437551] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Fascism (/fzm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Well, it doesnt fully fit the definition, but its close. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DDirtyDastard 05/20/20 10:41:35 AM #55:	A fat pig loser says fuck you to one of the greatest minds of his generation and a classy, intelligent, beautiful business woman. Pretty obvious to me which side is in the right. <cite>DDirtyDastard posted [p:939440048] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>A fat pig loser says fuck you to one of the greatest minds of his generation and a classy, intelligent, beautiful business woman. Pretty obvious to me which side is in the right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sodium-chloride 05/20/20 10:49:39 AM #56:	DDirtyDastard posted... classy, intelligent, beautiful business woman. lol. maybe 1 of those 4 modifying words are accurate <cite>sodium-chloride posted [p:939440314] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>DDirtyDastard posted... </cite> <quote>classy, intelligent, beautiful business woman. </quote> lol. maybe 1 of those 4 modifying words are accurate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeerOnTap 05/20/20 11:24:19 AM #57:	EvilMegas posted... Lol the fact that two people in this same topic, "trolling" or not, think you become a completely new person when you transition is scary. Its almost as if theyre still the same person, biologically speaking. <cite>BeerOnTap posted [p:939441549] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>EvilMegas posted... </cite> <quote>Lol the fact that two people in this same topic, "trolling" or not, think you become a completely new person when you transition is scary.</quote> Its almost as if theyre still the same person, biologically speaking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_tall_midget 05/20/20 12:06:15 PM #58:	BeerOnTap posted... Its almost as if theyre still the same person, biologically speaking. But muh feelings! --- DRUUUMMMPPPFFF!!! <cite>The_tall_midget posted [p:939443184] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>BeerOnTap posted... </cite> <quote>Its almost as if theyre still the same person, biologically speaking.</quote> But muh feelings! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 05/20/20 12:08:16 PM #59:	sodium-chloride posted... No one is saying they can't be named something different or that they don't take on a new title. Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis. I feel like there is a real argument about that, I have no cells in my body that I had 7 years ago so for all intents and purposes I am a different person than I was before, and we have all gone through that cycle multiple times in our lives Note: I do not agree with these guys you are arguing with --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:939443269] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>sodium-chloride posted... </cite> <quote>No one is saying they can't be named something different or that they don't take on a new title. Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis.</quote>I feel like there is a real argument about that, I have no cells in my body that I had 7 years ago so for all intents and purposes I am a different person than I was before, and we have all gone through that cycle multiple times in our lives Note: I do not agree with these guys you are arguing with </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 05/20/20 3:39:59 PM #60:	Yellow posted... You and your alt saying a post transition person did not do the things they did before they transitioned because they were a different person and they can't take credit for those things. That's the dumbest/saddest thing I've ever heard on this board and my mind is blown that it's even possible for someone to be so dense. Why doesn't she give her money away because that's not her post-transition possessions? ahem, for the millionth fucking time. Deadnaming and laws surrounding it is a real thing. So why is it considered hate speech that is so horrible, that certain people need to take away freedoms of speech from other people? Why is deadnaming so offensive? ....hint: you yourself answered this question a few posts later. This might be a hard concept for you to grasp... but they're still here. They transitioned to women. The same way if I paint my room red, it doesn't become someone else's room, and it's still the room I've been in the whole time. This is a hard concept to follow, I know. But what happened to the white room? It's gone! No... it's the same room. You must be trolling me and it's working. Pretty shitty analogy since I'm talking about the fundamentals of identity, and you're talking about gender like a fashion accessory.....shame on you. ultra magnus13 posted... You neglected to mention there greatest masterpiece. You are either a troll, or a fool. What? Speed Racer? ...fuck off.... That movie was such an eye-sore with it's CGI, it was a critical and commercial flop. Or do you mean V for Vendetta, who were only producers...which only amounts to signing cheques.... ChaosAzeroth posted... I know you're trolling but... Does that mean that all my mistakes pre social transition are erased? If what someone did pre transition no longer is theirs. Because I'm not fully out do my mistakes before fully transitioning socially get erased? Or does it take physical transition? Is my son no longer my son because of my social transition? You absolutely make no sense... Of course it makes no sense, because you impose these laws onto the country, but you never thought it through. Then little undefinable grey areas start to develop. And that's when the SJWs try to control them like the Neutral Zone in Star Trek. It's illegal to make reference to your previous gender identity; that's "hate speech". So when taking into account your past mistakes, it would be illegal to refer to you as the person you were to hold you accountable. Then again, let's bring the topic of "Trans-gender athletes". They are obviously not the same people they were before they transitioned; which has been their prime defense when fighting for their place within female sports. They literally have to take chemicals to reduce their standard male performance to compete with women. Going on what they claim, they would not be the same people they were before and after, right? So how can we assume these mistakes being made was because of frustration or "dysphoria" because you were in the wrong body all along? The TDLR of it is.... 'you can't have it both ways'.... Bulbasaur posted... no, they are the same fucking person. them transitioning doesn't mean they didn't fucking do things before they transitioned, and trying to take that away from them is ridiculous. it's their movie, they made it, end of story. you wish it was the end of story, so you can't be trapped in a logic box. But the truth and reality of it was that the quality of their work declined after they transitioned, as I've proven a few times already. Like transitioned athletes or 'mistakes of the past', it apparent that you aren't the same person you were before and after. Moreso to the point of creating laws to impress upon people that they demand their new identity is bonafided over their old one. So I ask again, "Can they claim credit for the Matrix when they weren't the same people they were before?' ...or are they bending their own rules to grab their accolades so all the other transitioned people have a hero to look up to? sodium-chloride posted... By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis. Horrible interpretation. Because whatever my cells regenerate to, it'll still be my original gender as well as identity. Other people need to repeatedly take HRT and other chemicals in order to claim a new gender identity. sodium-chloride posted... Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning. ...like how those very same people claim the same thing for themselves?.....yeah "dumbass" is right. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:939453010] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>You and your alt saying a post transition person did not do the things they did before they transitioned because they were a different person and they can't take credit for those things. That's the dumbest/saddest thing I've ever heard on this board and my mind is blown that it's even possible for someone to be so dense. Why doesn't she give her money away because that's not her post-transition possessions?</quote> ahem, for the millionth fucking time. Deadnaming and laws surrounding it is a real thing. So why is it considered hate speech that is so horrible, that certain people need to take away freedoms of speech from other people? Why is deadnaming so offensive? ....hint: you yourself answered this question a few posts later. <quote>This might be a hard concept for you to grasp... but they're still here. They transitioned to women. The same way if I paint my room red, it doesn't become someone else's room, and it's still the room I've been in the whole time. This is a hard concept to follow, I know. But what happened to the white room? It's gone! No... it's the same room. You must be trolling me and it's working.</quote> Pretty shitty analogy since I'm talking about the fundamentals of identity, and you're talking about gender like a fashion accessory.....shame on you. ultra magnus13 posted... </cite> <quote>You neglected to mention there greatest masterpiece. You are either a troll, or a fool.</quote> What? Speed Racer? ...fuck off.... That movie was such an eye-sore with it's CGI, it was a critical and commercial flop. Or do you mean V for Vendetta, who were only producers...which only amounts to signing cheques.... ChaosAzeroth posted... </cite> <quote>I know you're trolling but... Does that mean that all my mistakes pre social transition are erased? If what someone did pre transition no longer is theirs. Because I'm not fully out do my mistakes before fully transitioning socially get erased? Or does it take physical transition? Is my son no longer my son because of my social transition? You absolutely make no sense...</quote> Of course it makes no sense, because you impose these laws onto the country, but you never thought it through. Then little undefinable grey areas start to develop. And that's when the SJWs try to control them like the Neutral Zone in Star Trek. It's illegal to make reference to your previous gender identity; that's "hate speech". So when taking into account your past mistakes, it would be illegal to refer to you as the person you were to hold you accountable. Then again, let's bring the topic of "Trans-gender athletes". They are obviously not the same people they were before they transitioned; which has been their prime defense when fighting for their place within female sports. They literally have to take chemicals to reduce their standard male performance to compete with women. Going on what they claim, they would not be the same people they were before and after, right? So how can we assume these mistakes being made was because of frustration or "dysphoria" because you were in the wrong body all along? The TDLR of it is.... 'you can't have it both ways'.... Bulbasaur posted... </cite> <quote>no, they are the same fucking person. them transitioning doesn't mean they didn't fucking do things before they transitioned, and trying to take that away from them is ridiculous. it's their movie, they made it, end of story.</quote> you wish it was the end of story, so you can't be trapped in a logic box. But the truth and reality of it was that the quality of their work declined after they transitioned, as I've proven a few times already. Like transitioned athletes or 'mistakes of the past', it apparent that you aren't the same person you were before and after. Moreso to the point of creating laws to impress upon people that they demand their new identity is bonafided over their old one. So I ask again, "Can they claim credit for the Matrix when they weren't the same people they were before?' ...or are they bending their own rules to grab their accolades so all the other transitioned people have a hero to look up to? sodium-chloride posted... </cite> <quote>By that logic we are all physically different people given how our bodies' cells break down and regenerate new ones on a daily basis.</quote> Horrible interpretation. Because whatever my cells regenerate to, it'll still be my original gender as well as identity. Other people need to repeatedly take HRT and other chemicals in order to claim a new gender identity. sodium-chloride posted... </cite> <quote>Some dumbass in here is arguing that they are literally different people than they were before transitioning.</quote> ...like how those very same people claim the same thing for themselves?.....yeah "dumbass" is right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 05/20/20 3:44:56 PM #61:	Joker_X_II posted... ahem, for the millionth fucking time. Deadnaming and laws surrounding it is a real thing. So why is it considered hate speech that is so horrible, that certain people need to take away freedoms of speech from other people? Why is deadnaming so offensive? ....hint: you yourself answered this question a few posts later. @Joker_X_II https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKacHpM8yTc --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:939453244] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>ahem, for the millionth fucking time. Deadnaming and laws surrounding it is a real thing. So why is it considered hate speech that is so horrible, that certain people need to take away freedoms of speech from other people? Why is deadnaming so offensive? ....hint: you yourself answered this question a few posts later.</quote>@Joker_X_II https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKacHpM8yTc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 05/20/20 3:46:52 PM #62:	Yellow posted... @Joker_X_II https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKacHpM8yTc So what you're saying is, once again you're trapped in a box, with no logical way out. The Double-standard is real....but you're a sore-loser that has to resort to childish memes to be cool. okay,...good to know. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:939453346] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>@Joker_X_II https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKacHpM8yTc</quote> So what you're saying is, once again you're trapped in a box, with no logical way out. The Double-standard is real....but you're a sore-loser that has to resort to childish memes to be cool. okay,...good to know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 05/20/20 3:52:32 PM #63:	No you're literally not worth responding to and that is how I honestly feel --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:939453640] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>No you're literally not worth responding to and that is how I honestly feel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joker_X_II 05/20/20 3:53:41 PM #64:	Yellow posted... No you're literally not worth responding to and that is how I honestly feel because you got nothing to go on.....that's fine, it's okay... "You do you" as they say....just beware of your own hubris when reality kicks in, that's all. --- PSA: "Real Gamers" don't pay for Micro-transactions. Pro-tip: You're not 'playing' the game, if you're paying your way through it. <cite>Joker_X_II posted [p:939453685] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>No you're literally not worth responding to and that is how I honestly feel</quote> because you got nothing to go on.....that's fine, it's okay... "You do you" as they say....just beware of your own hubris when reality kicks in, that's all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/20/20 3:54:45 PM #65:	abaddon41_80 posted... He is still your son but you are no longer his father. I am not sure why this is so hard for many of you to understand. The Wachowski brothers do not exist anymore. If you say otherwise, you are disrespecting the wishes of the Wachowski sisters. Being as I am not transphobic, I will not do that. I gave birth to him though.... Also the kid still will calls me mom for some reason. So apparently I'm a dude and a mom. Used to call my spouse mommy too tbh. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:939453743] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>abaddon41_80 posted... </cite> <quote>He is still your son but you are no longer his father. I am not sure why this is so hard for many of you to understand. The Wachowski brothers do not exist anymore. If you say otherwise, you are disrespecting the wishes of the Wachowski sisters. Being as I am not transphobic, I will not do that.</quote> I gave birth to him though.... Also the kid still will calls me mom for some reason. So apparently I'm a dude and a mom. Used to call my spouse mommy too tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
abaddon41_80 05/20/20 4:08:37 PM #66:	ChaosAzeroth posted... I gave birth to him though.... Also the kid still will calls me mom for some reason. So apparently I'm a dude and a mom. Used to call my spouse mommy too tbh. I am confused. In this scenario, are you a FTM transgender who gave birth to this kid? If that is the case, the kid is your son but you are no longer his mother. --- I HATE ALEX SMITH <cite>abaddon41_80 posted [p:939454393] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>ChaosAzeroth posted... </cite> <quote>I gave birth to him though.... Also the kid still will calls me mom for some reason. So apparently I'm a dude and a mom. Used to call my spouse mommy too tbh.</quote> I am confused. In this scenario, are you a FTM transgender who gave birth to this kid? If that is the case, the kid is your son but you are no longer his mother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sodium-chloride 05/20/20 5:10:23 PM #67:	Joker_X_II posted... Because whatever my cells regenerate to, it'll still be my original gender as well as identity. Other people need to repeatedly take HRT and other chemicals in order to claim a new gender identity. you'd still be your original sex. a person who under goes transition surgery and hormone therapy doesn't have their DNA altered. they are still the same person as defined by their DNA. you can take as many hormones and get as many fake boobs or wieners as you want, but that won't change your biological sex. interestingly enough, we can actually induce genetic changes within individuals through bone marrow transplants and CAR-T therapy for certain hematologic cancers. this isn't done for gender reassignment though because it wouldn't really do much good when you're of adult age, not to mention there are probably a lot of legal implications for it. also, having a new gender identity doesn't mean you are a totally new person. gender =/= sex. <cite>sodium-chloride posted [p:939457354] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Joker_X_II posted... </cite> <quote>Because whatever my cells regenerate to, it'll still be my original gender as well as identity. Other people need to repeatedly take HRT and other chemicals in order to claim a new gender identity.</quote> you'd still be your original sex. a person who under goes transition surgery and hormone therapy doesn't have their DNA altered. they are still the same person as defined by their DNA. you can take as many hormones and get as many fake boobs or wieners as you want, but that won't change your biological sex. interestingly enough, we can actually induce genetic changes within individuals through bone marrow transplants and CAR-T therapy for certain hematologic cancers. this isn't done for gender reassignment though because it wouldn't really do much good when you're of adult age, not to mention there are probably a lot of legal implications for it. also, having a new gender identity doesn't mean you are a totally new person. gender =/= sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dainkinkaide 05/20/20 5:45:45 PM #68:	Suddenly the King was holding his mining axe again. 'This, milord, is my family's axe. We have owned it for almost nine hundred years, see. Of course, sometimes it needed a new blade. And sometimes it has required a new handle, new designs on the metalwork, a little refreshing of the ornamentation... but is this not the nine-hundred-year-old axe of my family? And because it has changed gently over time, it is still a pretty good axe, y'know. Pretty good. Will you tell me this is a fake too?' - Terry Pratchett, "The Fifth Elephant" --- The problem with the internet today is that it's filled with entire generations that did not grow up with the great wisdom of the Wyld Stallyns. <cite>dainkinkaide posted [p:939458948] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Suddenly the King was holding his mining axe again. 'This, milord, is my family's axe. We have owned it for almost nine hundred years, see. Of course, sometimes it needed a new blade. And sometimes it has required a new handle, new designs on the metalwork, a little refreshing of the ornamentation... but is this not the nine-hundred-year-old axe of my family? And because it has changed gently over time, it is still a pretty good axe, y'know. Pretty good. Will you tell me this is a fake too?' - Terry Pratchett, "The Fifth Elephant" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raddest_Chad 05/20/20 6:10:07 PM #69:	She looks like Elon Musk in disguise. <cite>Raddest_Chad posted [p:939460023] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>She looks like Elon Musk in disguise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 05/20/20 8:24:07 PM #70:	abaddon41_80 posted... I am confused. In this scenario, are you a FTM transgender who gave birth to this kid? If that is the case, the kid is your son but you are no longer his mother. Yep and tell the kid that I guess because even though he knows I'm a dude he still calls me mom. Kid has enough on his plate though, so I'm not gonna press it. <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:939466351] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>abaddon41_80 posted... </cite> <quote>I am confused. In this scenario, are you a FTM transgender who gave birth to this kid? If that is the case, the kid is your son but you are no longer his mother.</quote> Yep and tell the kid that I guess because even though he knows I'm a dude he still calls me mom. Kid has enough on his plate though, so I'm not gonna press it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/21/20 11:47:19 PM #71:	Brave and stunning <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:939525034] in Lily Wacho... [t:78700992]...</cite> <quote>Brave and stunning </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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