Current Events > Damn the combat in botw is some doo doo cakes

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this has to be the worst lock on and dodge ive ever used

The gear system sucks too, and just enemy scaling in general

jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Game of the decade lmao

Its a really fun game so far but this game is nothing special imo. You cant have combat this jank and be a contender for gotd

Yeah, I put over 100 hours into it, but I pretty much avoided all combat once I got to the point of having too many weapons I wasn't using. It's still a fabulous game, but balancing the combat definitely should be a focus of the sequel.

jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Game of the decade lmao

laughed so hard

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Eh, the combat in BotW is fine. Dodge is also broken when mastered. Swordplay is dumbed down from older 3D LoZ games though which hurts it, but the ways you can tackle battles is a bit more freeform due to some of the options you have available which helps keep things interesting.

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I've played a lot worse.

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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Game of the decade lmao

I mean, it was up against the witcher which has more than a few detractors for its combat too

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Its a great game besides basic combat and the inventory system.

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It's really awesome how you have a 100% chance of being struck by lightning in any storm if you have something metal on you. It's a ton of fun to keep stopping what you are doing to swap out all of your equipment. I really loved that part of the game.

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Combat's basic but you can still do some amazing things with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzqy4KVY6c

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BakonBitz posted...

Combat's basic but you can still do some amazing things with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzqy4KVY6c

Lemme just go to my inventory real quick....lol

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MabusIncarnate posted...

It's really awesome how you have a 100% chance of being struck by lightning in any storm if you have something metal on you. It's a ton of fun to keep stopping what you are doing to swap out all of your equipment. I really loved that part of the game.

At least that mechanic is fair. Enemies get shocked too.

Weapon durability is one sided as fuck though.

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Number090684 posted...

Swordplay is dumbed down from older 3D LoZ games though which hurts it

Which ones?

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

I mean, it was up against the witcher which has more than a few detractors for its combat too

Witcher 3 has bad combat but its better than botw

I wonder why they didn't put in the down strike

PowerOats posted...

I wonder why they didn't put in the down strike

It's technically in, you just have to be falling from a longer height before attacking. Link will thrust the sword downward like he does in Zelda 2.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

It's really awesome how you have a 100% chance of being struck by lightning in any storm if you have something metal on you. It's a ton of fun to keep stopping what you are doing to swap out all of your equipment. I really loved that part of the game.

Or climbing up a really tall cliff and it starts raining all of a sudden.

I think the combat is fine

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It's an ok game, but it's really empty, and the world overall is bland.

IMO Horizon Zero Dawn is a far better game.

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P4wn4g3 posted...

I think the combat is fine

The combat is fucking trash. No depth whatsoever. Not everything needs to be soulsbourne but by good this shit is basic.

9/10 game though.

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PokemonYoutube posted...

Or climbing up a really tall cliff and it starts raining all of a sudden.

Yeah, to be fair, THAT's bullshit. At least let us unlock a hookshot or something to by-pass the rain when it happens...

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Breath of the wild is an awesome game..one of the best games this gen for sure. Sorry if you wanna fanboy for another game, fine. No need to bring down another.

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What zelda games have you guys played with deeper combat than botw?

There are so many options to killing enemies in it compared to every other zelda game

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CasualGuy posted...

What zelda games have you guys played with deeper combat than botw?

There are so many options to killing enemies in it compared to every other zelda game

I think we are dealing with people that just aren't very creative. Min/maxers who just auto dodge every fight. Yeah, once you get good it's easy. But I couldn't beat a Lynel first. Every enemy has different patterns/attacks. I think the combat is fine. It's better than like, the Witcher 3, Skryim, the more recent Assasins Creed games...

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PokemonYoutube posted...

Or climbing up a really tall cliff and it starts raining all of a sudden.

Earlier stages when I didn't have much stamina and I worked like 20 mins to get up a mountain and then it started raining would legit make me rage quit for a couple days. There are so many little issues like this that made me think this was just a decent game at best.

The motion controlled shrine puzzles were infuriating also, the one with the ball labyrinth and then at the end you had to flip it up onto the platform made me want to break my Switch.

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F1areaGaman posted...

I think we are dealing with people that just aren't very creative. Min/maxers who just auto dodge every fight. Yeah, once you get good it's easy. But I couldn't beat a Lynel first. Every enemy has different patterns/attacks. I think the combat is fine. It's better than like, the Witcher 3, Skryim, the more recent Assasins Creed games...

The Witcher 3 and those recent AC games have terrible combat....

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MabusIncarnate posted...

It's really awesome how you have a 100% chance of being struck by lightning in any storm if you have something metal on you. It's a ton of fun to keep stopping what you are doing to swap out all of your equipment. I really loved that part of the game.

Gerudo helmet bruh

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COVxy posted...

Which ones?

Pretty much all of them. Besides rotate stick spin attack, Link can't freely choose which way to swing his sword and other melee weapons in BotW, so he can't even thrust his sword stab attacks. In OoT, MM, TWW, TP and SS you could though, so BotW's swordplay / melee weapon attack variety is definitely a step back.

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tap Wolf Link amiibo in for excitement

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Number090684 posted...

Pretty much all of them. Link can't freely choose which way to swing his sword and other melee weapons in BotW, so he can't even thrust his sword stab attacks. In OoT, MM, TWW, TP and SS you could though so BotW's swordplay is definitely a step back.

When's the last time you played OoT? I played it just after beating BoTW, and tbh, I was immediately struck by how dull the fighting was in OoT.

Not that it's a fair comparison, given the age, but still. BoTW lacked some things, but never did I feel like the combat was dull.

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Dark_SilverX posted...

tap Wolf Link amiibo in for excitement

I have a 20 heart Wolf Link amiibo but I never really felt the need to use it because it would only make things easier. In hindsight I should have considered using it for the One Hit Obliterator trial if it was possible.

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Number090684 posted...

Pretty much all of them. Link can't freely choose which way to swing his sword and other melee weapons in BotW, so he can't even thrust his sword stab attacks. In OoT, MM, TWW, TP and SS you could though so BotW's swordplay is definitely a step back.

The combat in every single one of those games is braindead and aside from SS there's not a single instance where it actually matters which way you swing your sword.

That's of course assuming what you're saying is even accurate. BotW has far greater emphasis on vertical approaches, throwing weapons, and mounted combat than any of the other previous games.

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COVxy posted...

When's the last time you played OoT? I played it just after beating BoTW, and tbh, I was immediately struck by how dull the fighting was in OoT.

Not that it's a fair comparison, given the age, but still. BoTW lacked some things, but never did I feel like the combat was dull.

I played OoT a few years ago. Anyway, I never said BotW's combat was dull or bad, I just said it's swordplay is inferior to most other 3D LoZ games which seems to be the case. Please read next time.

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Doo doo is a theme in this game.

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Number090684 posted...

I played OoT a few years ago. Anyway, I never said BotW's combat was dull or bad, I just said it's swordplay is inferior to most other 3D LoZ games which seems to be the case. Please read next time.

Haha I guess. But 0.5/10 depth isn't much better than 0.25/10 depth if you know what I mean. It could be twice as deep, but the bar is already so low it doesn't matter.

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Its no Dark Souls

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I always felt like TP won the combat as far as zeldas go, but I haven't tried to compare it with botw. Botw involves a lot of strategy. Not simply "use dungeon item and shoot enemy in eye"

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Number090684 posted...

I have a 20 heart Wolf Link amiibo but I never really felt the need to use it because it would only make things easier. In hindsight I should have considered using it for the One Hit Obliterator trial if it was possible.

Wolf Link gets his ass beaten and you have to let him recharge for a day once he dies. Just having him and the horse around makes traveling Hyrule more fun.

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I thought it was really special for maybe the first 10 hours. But you quickly realize at that point you've done everything there is to do in the game. I beat 2 divine beasts and just couldn't really bother to finish the rest of it.
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There are millions of things to do in the game, ain't no way you did everything in 10 hours. At the same time though it gets boring

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P4wn4g3 posted...

There are millions of things to do in the game, ain't no way you did everything in 10 hours. At the same time though it gets boring

Agreed. Too much to do.

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Number090684 posted...

I just said it's swordplay is inferior to most other 3D LoZ games which seems to be the case.

I don't agree with that.

Especially when you take into account different weapon styles and handling.

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In botw you can throw a boomerang, freeze it in time, and then use the magnesis tool to use it as a chainsaw

"But you can pick which direction your sword swings!"

I can't believe what I'm reading itt

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COVxy posted...

I don't agree with that.

Especially when you take into account different weapon styles and handling.

Handling? You mean the attacks the other weapons have? They are incredibly limited in use. Also once you get the fully powered Master Sword, if you purchased the DLC, there is little reason to use any other melee weapon.

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WizardPowers posted...

In botw you can throw a boomerang, freeze it in time, and then use the magnesis tool to use it as a chainsaw

"But you can pick which direction your sword swings!"

I can't believe what I'm reading itt

The question you should really be asking yourself is "If I can do something like that, why can't I freely choose which way to swing my swords / greatswords, or event thrust it forward?"

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Number090684 posted...

Handling? You mean the attacks the other weapons have? They are incredibly limited in use. Also once you get the fully powered Master Sword, if you purchased the DLC, there is little reason to use any other melee weapon.

Why would I use the master sword when spin to win kills everything so much faster?

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It's kind of pointless when you swing the sword 4 times and it's broken

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WizardPowers posted...

In botw you can throw a boomerang, freeze it in time, and then use the magnesis tool to use it as a chainsaw

"But you can pick which direction your sword swings!"

I can't believe what I'm reading itt

B....but.... Mowerrang from Link's Awakening!!!

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