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Orlando_Jordan
05/08/20 12:50:25 PM
#53:


Secretly posted...
OJs position would be entirely reversed had the shooters been black and shot an unarmed white man
Was the unarmed white man a convicted felon?

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/08/20 12:50:46 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Him not being shot if he didn't try to defend himself is you making up a scenario as well. Try harder
I .... what? Someone makes up a scenario, I say thats bad to do .... and somehow Im making up a scenario? Im lost.

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E32005
05/08/20 12:51:57 PM
#55:


Orlando_Jordan posted...
Was the unarmed white man a convicted felon?
how have the mods not banned you yet?

that is the stupidest question you've ever posted

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Shablagoo
05/08/20 12:52:19 PM
#56:


alimajor posted...
If two strange men brandishing guns aggressively came up to you after almost running you over, what would you have done?

He would have ran to the nearest 7-Eleven. No way they would have shot him once they realized where he was going

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 1:00:09 PM
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I don't get how whether or not the guy who was shot was a criminal makes any difference.

Dudes chased him in a truck, screaming at him and waving a gun around

then shot him...

Guy could have spent every morning dropkicking puppies and it still wouldn't stop that from being wrong
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E32005
05/08/20 1:03:51 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get how whether or not the guy who was shot was a criminal makes any difference.
it only matters if someone is a racist and needs to find anything they can to justify supporting their race of choice

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VipaGTS
05/08/20 1:05:24 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Cant wait for people to spin this to make trump look bad
Spin what? Youll cry about anything. His comment sounded juvenile so people will laugh at it. It reads like a 6 year olds book report. I saw his picture. He looked nice. He was wearing a tuxedo lol come on. It sounds so stupid its funny.

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MacadamianNut3
05/08/20 1:07:19 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Im lost.
So another day ending in y for you huh

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Firewerx
05/08/20 1:11:14 PM
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Orlando_Jordan posted...
Was the unarmed white man a convicted felon?
OK, so you've reached for the "he deserved to die because he grabbed the gun they pointed at him" argument, you've clutched at the "he deserved to die for not running to a 7-Eleven" argument, and you've grabbed at the "he deserved to die because he was a convicted felon" argument.

Is there anything the McMichaels could have done that would make you grudgingly concede that stalking an unarmed man in a truck, confronting him with a gun and then killing him with it, was in some sense wrong or unjustified?

It's rhetorical question. We already know the answer.

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ChuckSDeuces
05/08/20 1:15:03 PM
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What happened to him was wrong and a tragedy.

But I'm just trying to tell all of you that going for the gun never works. For the very same reason everyone on here always laughs about gun nuts thinking they can out draw a hold up. And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.

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Tired-Insomniac
05/08/20 1:17:35 PM
#63:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
What happened to him was wrong and a tragedy.

But I'm just trying to tell all of you that going for the gun never works. For the very same reason everyone on here always laughs about gun nuts thinking they can out draw a hold up. And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.

To be fair, trying to disarm the guy who's about to kill you to make it harder for him to kill you seems like a reasonable response when in a life or death situation

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Summer_Ashigara
05/08/20 1:19:03 PM
#64:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
What happened to him was wrong and a tragedy.

But I'm just trying to tell all of you that going for the gun never works. For the very same reason everyone on here always laughs about gun nuts thinking they can out draw a hold up. And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.
bro just act rational when someone pulls out a shotgun out on you bro lol dont be dumb

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Antifar
05/08/20 1:20:12 PM
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The tuxedo line is weird; it's not like someone who never attended a formal occasion would deserve this.
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MacadamianNut3
05/08/20 1:20:32 PM
#66:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.
Also weird that people defending yet claiming not to defend the shooters here haven't completed a high school curriculum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response

But please continue thinking up all the moves he should have carefully considered after two randos rolled up on him with guns


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Shablagoo
05/08/20 1:20:59 PM
#67:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
What happened to him was wrong and a tragedy.

But I'm just trying to tell all of you that going for the gun never works. For the very same reason everyone on here always laughs about gun nuts thinking they can out draw a hold up. And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.

I have had guns pointed at me and I agree the best option is not to make a move for it. Its not really relevant here though.

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Talk2DaHand
05/08/20 1:24:55 PM
#68:


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They shouldn't have been stalking an unarmed man with guns in the first place. He went for the gun because the cowards would have shot him in the back had he run

They had been following him for a while trying to talk to him. If they'd wanted to shoot him before they would have. Dumb rednecks are jumpy, and you don't ever dive at anybody that's holding a shotgun.

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ScazarMeltex
05/08/20 1:28:25 PM
#69:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
What happened to him was wrong and a tragedy.

But I'm just trying to tell all of you that going for the gun never works. For the very same reason everyone on here always laughs about gun nuts thinking they can out draw a hold up. And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.
He is a black man in Georgia being chased by two white men with guns who have him essentially cornered. He knows nothing about them other than that they are armed, he is not, and they have chased him down. Historically this has never been a situation that has worked out well for a black man. History in fact tells you that the black man most likwly dies in that scenario. He made a fight or flight decison in a moment of panic because that's what happens. He had already tried running and they had caught him, so fight it was.

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MyTummyHurt
05/08/20 1:28:35 PM
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I mean that wasnt the worst way he couldve handled it
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VipaGTS
05/08/20 1:31:27 PM
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Have you guys really devolved this into "well they tried to talk to him first but he didn't stop for the strange rednecks with guns chasing him!"....He defended himself the best way he could in a situation that should never have happened. So they thought he was a criminal who would just stop and have a delightful chat with them? No, they went out there with intent to harm someone and did just that. That's where the argument should end. No "but the black guy should/shouldn't" haves...

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 1:32:41 PM
#72:


ChuckSDeuces posted...
What happened to him was wrong and a tragedy.

But I'm just trying to tell all of you that going for the gun never works. For the very same reason everyone on here always laughs about gun nuts thinking they can out draw a hold up. And it seems really fucking weird how the left on CE always seems to act like going for the gun is the best possible move someone can make.

It was a fight or flight scenario where the guy was on foot and the attackers had a truck

It's not hard to see why he choose flight.

Not to mention while your advice is generally true, there have been a lot of cases of people taking a gun from an assailant.
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Solar_Crimson
05/08/20 1:33:36 PM
#73:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
What does what youre saying have to do with what the other person said?

absolutely nothing

interesting

Its not good to just make up scenarios
What a surprise that Charlottesville-defender gators is defending these racist POSes.

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KillerKhan420
05/08/20 1:36:02 PM
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Everything's going to come out about this. As much as race baiting posters here and everywhere like to do, I'd like to see a connection with the KKK or something. This is being blown up because of the race of the victim. If the roles were reversed this story would not of made it, especially months after the fact.

They were arrested and now will go on trial. They'll not be convicted, with the video evidence. If anything a fine.

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Solar_Crimson
05/08/20 1:37:23 PM
#75:


KillerKhan420 posted...
They were arrested and now will go on trial. They'll not be convicted, with the video evidence.
If they are not convicted despite the clear video evidence, then everyone on that jury is braindead.

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MyTummyHurt
05/08/20 1:38:41 PM
#76:


KillerKhan420 posted...
If the roles were reversed this story would not of made it, especially months after the fact.

Correct because they would most likely have been booked when it happened in February.

Thank you for highlighting one of the key points though I doubt that was your intention
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VipaGTS
05/08/20 1:44:05 PM
#77:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Everything's going to come out about this. As much as race baiting posters here and everywhere like to do, I'd like to see a connection with the KKK or something. This is being blown up because of the race of the victim. If the roles were reversed this story would not of made it, especially months after the fact.

They were arrested and now will go on trial. They'll not be convicted, with the video evidence. If anything a fine.
That's not the issue. The issue is it took 2 months, and the arrest came conveniently just a few days after the video was seen by the public. you want me to believe the timing is just a coincidence and they've been investigating this for that long? it takes that long to make an arrest after having video and statements? Yes, in the end the right thing happened, but this was not an action based on weeks of investigations. It was a reaction to public outcry. they had the video. they had no more info now than they did then. If not for the video coming out those 2 guys would still be sitting at home having lunch with their family right now.

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 1:52:09 PM
#78:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Everything's going to come out about this. As much as race baiting posters here and everywhere like to do, I'd like to see a connection with the KKK or something. This is being blown up because of the race of the victim. If the roles were reversed this story would not of made it, especially months after the fact.

You might be right but the takeaway from that is not "Therefore we shoudn't care"

The takeaway is "We really need to care more."
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ScazarMeltex
05/08/20 2:09:51 PM
#79:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Everything's going to come out about this. As much as race baiting posters here and everywhere like to do, I'd like to see a connection with the KKK or something. This is being blown up because of the race of the victim. If the roles were reversed this story would not of made it, especially months after the fact.

They were arrested and now will go on trial. They'll not be convicted, with the video evidence. If anything a fine.
If the places were reversed and black men had chased a white man down and killed him they would have been charged immediately, and the video would have been circulated all over right wing media sources as an example of bloodthirsty black murderers.

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Odoylerules
05/08/20 2:10:47 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Cant wait for people to spin this to make trump look bad

Do you ever stop crying?
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Taharqa_
05/08/20 2:13:45 PM
#81:


Lukewarm response, he was more firey at the NFL players at his rally, called them sons of bitches.

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Taharqa_
05/08/20 2:15:08 PM
#82:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Everything's going to come out about this. As much as race baiting posters here and everywhere like to do, I'd like to see a connection with the KKK or something. This is being blown up because of the race of the victim. If the roles were reversed this story would not of made it, especially months after the fact.

They were arrested and now will go on trial. They'll not be convicted, with the video evidence. If anything a fine.

That's because they would have been charged and arrested way back in February. It wouldn't have taken a national public outcry for charges to be brought if the roles were reversed. The privilege of it all...

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creativerealms
05/08/20 2:19:46 PM
#83:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Cant wait for people to spin this to make trump look bad
No need to. There are plenty of things that make him look terrible already.

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 7:26:35 PM
#84:


Taharqa_ posted...
Lukewarm response, he was more firey at the NFL players at his rally, called them sons of bitches.

To be honest, I much prefer a calm reasoned response to emotional rhetoric that stems the fire. Obama's response to Zimmerman was crazy. If Trump jumped and went "LOCK UP DEM SONS O BITCHES!" It'd be really weird and probably cause a lagrer media circus.

I wish he was more anti the killers but I don't want firey
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CM_Ponch
05/08/20 7:38:23 PM
#85:


If Orlando and gators could put a bullet through their own heads they'd be doing the world a favor

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apocalyptic_4
05/08/20 7:40:15 PM
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E32005
05/08/20 7:41:41 PM
#87:


Odoylerules posted...
Do you ever stop crying?
this

jfc

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E32005
05/08/20 7:43:05 PM
#89:


i guess i should expect the racists on this board to act racist.

fucking pathetic, really

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 7:44:34 PM
#90:


CM_Ponch posted...
If


Jeez man....
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E32005
05/08/20 7:45:53 PM
#91:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Jeez man....
....meh

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CM_Ponch
05/08/20 7:48:39 PM
#92:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Jeez man....
Nah fuck em. They want to come in here and justify a man's death because he's black. They sit their acting like one man is worth less than another because of his skin color when the reality is that man's life was worth more than the both of them combined. They're human garbage and should be treated as such.

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 7:50:17 PM
#93:


How can you tell 2 people to kill themselves while ranting about the value of life man?

Don't be like that dude. Anger and dehumanization doesn't help anyone.
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E32005
05/08/20 7:51:10 PM
#94:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Don't be like that dude. Anger and dehumanization doesn't help anyone.
you do realize thats what THEY are doing.....right?

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 7:53:16 PM
#95:


E32005 posted...

you do realize thats what THEY are doing.....right?

If you believe that then don't stoop to their level man. Be better than them.

It ain't right.

They also weren't telling people to kill themselves.

It's just so nasty.
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CM_Ponch
05/08/20 7:53:28 PM
#96:


UnfairRepresent posted...
How can you tell 2 people to kill themselves while ranting about the value of life man?

Don't be like that dude. Anger and dehumanization doesn't help anyone.
No, fuck that, don't stand up for ignorance and racism. They are subhuman.

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UnfairRepresent
05/08/20 7:56:43 PM
#97:


Don't stand up for racism, stand up for telling people to kill themselves and dehumanizing people instead?

Come on dude... Don't be like that.

Don't stand up for any of those things. I don't like it.
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CM_Ponch
05/08/20 7:58:55 PM
#98:


UnfairRepresent posted...
stand up for telling people to kill themselves and dehumanizing people instead
They aren't people

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E32005
05/08/20 7:58:57 PM
#99:


UnfairRepresent posted...
f you believe that
its not about object "belief"

its fact

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Keith_Valentine
05/08/20 8:17:39 PM
#100:


CM_Ponch posted...
If Orlando and gators could put a bullet through their own heads they'd be doing the world a favor

See ya in 3 days.

By the way, i went back and reread rhe topic rq to make sure. But gators in particular said nothing even remotely offensive or defending the shooters? He just said he was waiting to see people spin this on Trump. Why the fuck would you even say that to him?

You are acting more psychotic than anyone itt and you believe you are morally superior? Because youre wishing death on presumably white men, as another assumed white man, that makes what you said ok?

This is my issue with some on CE. When some of us even ask QUESTIONS about incidents like this, the worst is assumed instantly. Dont you freakin realize that between your radical view, and a person who is Actually racist against blacks view, there is a Gray Area where the truth lies? I dont give a damn about Orlando as a poster, but he is 100% correct in suggesting that man would have a better chance of being ALIVE if he had not charged the fucking shooter! 100% Does that mean i support what happened? It does not, that is common sense. Quote that fight or flight shit all you want, i had a shotgun held on me by the cops. You know what i did? I stayed fucking still and calm.

The truth is almost ALWAYS in the middle of two radical views. This situation needs unbiased observation, not finger pointing.
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E32005
05/08/20 8:18:37 PM
#101:


Keith_Valentine posted...
But gators in particular said nothing even remotely offensive
xD

fucking please.

this is trolling

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Keith_Valentine
05/08/20 8:22:53 PM
#102:


E32005 posted...
xD

fucking please.

this is trolling

Bro be serious for one sec. Go read gators posts please. 2 right at beginning of topic, one near top of 2nd page. And stop posting emotionally and fucking think. And you ignored almost my entire post which is more important than this stupid goddam bickering and finger pointing, assuming peoples motivations for what they are saying. Witch huntinf. Im not defending Orlando even, hes Warned btw. gator literally didnt say shit!
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CM_Ponch
05/08/20 8:23:01 PM
#103:


Keith_Valentine posted...


The truth i
Shut the fuck up

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