Current Events > How would you discuss or argue this with a coworker?

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He probably hides an ass load of porn in that folder.

ChuckSDeuces posted...

If you report him for touching your hand you'll be the laughingstock of the office tbqh

Not in COVID-19 age.

eston posted...

So you just went into the settings and started doing stuff without telling him what you were going to do? Shit, I'd freak out too

No, we had a prior couple min interaction that to any basic computer literate persons would make sense. Which I clearly found out he didnt have.

We have a report we print everyday everyone uses this shared computer to do so, but now I find out he never prints this report because he usually leaves earlier in the day as a long-timer and never set his default printer for his login on this computer (with adjusted hours for COVID he is now here to do so).

Since it was just me and him at the time at this computer, I was waiting on him to print the report to continue so we were standing together and he kept going to File > Print and just selecting a different printer...but its a browser page with a hyperlink to print the document so the computer has to have the default printer set, so a browser page just kept printing. His VM Windows login settings had the wrong printer set and he just kept printing a browser page with the hyperlink

So I said, you have to change to the correct printer as default and know the IP address in Windows settings, which I had gone and checked the printer for the correct address to it. After coming back he was standing waiting for me, like a normal person does while waiting for someone to take over on their computer off to the side. I clicked out of his print preview preferences which didnt have the manage default printer options we needed. After a couple clicks to get out of his print preview settings, I used Right-Click on Windows to get to Settings > Devices and thats when he got worked up. To anyone else, me simply saying, We need to change the default printer in Windows settings I figured would be enough to understand Id be leaving the browser print settings, but clearly he didnt even know what that was. That distinction got him upset. We work in the fucking tech industry ffs.

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So you got on his computer without asking

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EnragedSlith posted...

So you got on his computer without asking

When someone steps aside after a conversation with a motion of have at it its implied for you to use the device from literally every instance Ive ever experienced in my life and never seen someone have a problem, especially after saying what youre going to do. Only after he sees me doing something hes unfamiliar with does he change his mind.

Not to mention, its a shared computer, for all he knows I could have just logged him off since he stepped off to the side and technically was no longer using it. Thats what were supposed to do. If he didnt understand what I was doing, how would he make a call on me doing something against company policy?

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Did you whup your coworkers ass yet??

No, but he shut it down and isnt doing shit about it after I told him if hes going to report it as an incident Ill have to report the physical altercation he initiated after I wasnt even given a fair chance to logout of the computer he was using and stepped away from. He shut it and our supervisor talked with me and said I could file an incident report if Id like but he was choosing not to and they both felt itd be better if we both just dropped it as we both could face disciplinary action if anyone else had to be involved.

So looks like were dropping it. Other than my direct manager saying its a respect thing and when he said dont use his computer I should have walked away. While I can appreciate that, I literally was doing it without a problem, he switched modes and asked, then gave me a couple seconds to respond before grabbing my hand and attempting to push me out of the way. If hed have said, Please dont change any settings, I dont feel comfortable, Id probably still have been like, Uhh what? but I would have stopped without need of physical intervention.

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I've trained myself to ask something like "May I?" before hopping on a computer that isn't mine to fix something. Just makes it easier. For family and close friends, I usually don't even have to ask and just jump on it when they tell me what's wrong.

You weren't in the wrong from context and body language so you're not at fault, but asking "May I?" is a good habit to prevent these sort of things from escalating. It's just good insurance in case anyone inquires if you asked for permission. Purely CYA.

You guys are under the assumption I just stepped up to his computer. There were multiple things like, I can fix the printer Let me go check the printer number and I just have to set the default printer and things like that during the lead-up to me using the computer.

If you walk back to a computer and someone steps to the side after having talked with you about the settings and you helping, and as you go back to the computer say something along the lines of, I can fix the issue and they allow you to use the computer...a shared computer at that which I had every right to use and log him out, why would anyone need to ask.

Then, I used the computer with them being fine watching me for a bit (yes, I was looking through the File > Print settings for about 30 seconds as he watched me to check, he freaked out after I closed those settings and opened the Windows settings) and he even said a couple comments like, I think its that one kind of thing (which he had no idea and was just commenting stupidly).

He was actively encouraging me to use this computer without me needing to stop and go, May I bullshit. I asked by way of assertiveness, Let me go ahead and fix that for you. Ok *he steps aside*

It was part way through he seemed to change his mind because he thought me exiting his print settings was bad. I even tried to ask him what he thought was bad and such but he couldnt do anything but yell at me, No no no no! while grabbing me.

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Is there any reason you can't file a report, document it on your side, and hold on to that in case of retaliation?

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berlyman101 posted...

Is there any reason you can't file a report, document it on your side, and hold on to that in case of retaliation?

My manager said the other guy wasnt filing a report and if I did itd cause further involvement where wed both be looking at disciplinary action. So it seems we both mutually dropped it.

What benefit is it to me at this point to file an incident report if its otherwise not being documented? Isnt that just me filing a report on myself to report the other guy who wasnt even filing anything?

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Definitely report the other guy first in this situation. The one to file the report is always right in the eyes of HR, regardless of anything that actually happened or didn't happen, especially in situations where there aren't any witnesses so their 'investigation' will just be pulling each of you into their office one after the other, talking to you and seeing who played the victim card better.

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Getting me nervous now, lol. I figured Id just let it be since everyone involved said nothing is being reported and its just being dropped. If I just drop it, itd likely disappear as if nothing happened. But theres that little doubt now where he decides to go to HR.

Btw, there was a manager in the area, she just heard him saying, No no no no! and gabbing/pushing me off the computer, me walking away then him trying to argue with me about not stopping using his login, at which point I said, Well youre a fucking idiot!

So of course it looked bad from her observation not knowing what was going on from a distance...it looks like I was trying to do something wrong on his login, he tried to physically stop me, and so I insulted him.

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Conker posted...

But theres that little doubt now where he decides to go to HR.

It's time to roundhouse this motherfucker before he snitches tomorrow.

KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...

It's time to roundhouse this motherfucker before he snitches tomorrow.

Haha, I wish.

I'm just ignoring him and if he asks me to do a damn thing at work, I'm just going to laugh at him. He use to expect me to do things to help, just the general stuff everyone mutually does at work together to be helpful (like printing out daily reports, cleaning up, locking up, etc), but I'm just going to ignore that shit from now on if I'm with this guy. I use to be considerate of other people's time too, now I'm just going to do whatever I please unless a supervisor asks me to do something or help (they never do because I'm more productive and make more money for them than anyone else at my location).

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Well I hope you learned your lesson and wont try to install any more malware on your coworkers computers in the future.

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Shablagoo posted...

Well I hope you learned your lesson and wont try to install any more malware on your coworkers computers in the future.

Maybe Conker should roundhouse you to.