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Monolith1676
05/03/20 4:26:53 PM
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Former great company has fallen into shit.

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I Like Toast
05/03/20 4:28:13 PM
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Company protects ip, faqer gets mad

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Delirious_Beard
05/03/20 4:28:50 PM
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the naughtiest fog

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Gobstoppers12
05/03/20 4:29:23 PM
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"You said a thing about our thing, that's copyrighted"

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Monolith1676
05/03/20 4:30:04 PM
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Also Sony is involved.

I Like Toast posted...
Company protects ip, faqer gets mad

I would understand if they had video or pictures but if no video or pictures are shown then they are overstepping quite a bit.

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I Like Toast
05/03/20 4:32:08 PM
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I know right why don't they have videos of the unreleased game while they talk about leaked spoilers! Fucking youtubers should sue the leaker for not including footage

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DarthAragorn
05/03/20 4:32:52 PM
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Toast get a new gimmick
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ChuckSDeuces
05/03/20 4:33:16 PM
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Sony shills love censorship to be fair

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I Like Toast
05/03/20 4:35:04 PM
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Imagine still picking sides in a console war in 2020.

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Feline_Heart
05/03/20 4:35:45 PM
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M_Live posted...
Isn't this like, normal? I'm not sure whats wrong with attempting to take down leaks tbh
Nothing at all but its trendy to hate Naughty Dog right now

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VipaGTS
05/03/20 4:36:40 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Toast get a new gimmick
I mean, i don't think its fair to copyright it, but at the same time the story is sort of their property and they don't want it getting out . the way the youtube system works is in order for them to get them taken down swiftly they have to put in a claim. Its like if i had a movie idea, told my friend, you overheard me and told someone else who also makes movies. I'd want that person shut down because a) i wouldn't want my idea stolen and b) some people might not want to view my actual content if its already been spoiled. After the work comes out its all fair game, but not before its released. Its not like ND or Sony purposely leaked this. Someone did against their wishes.

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DevsBro
05/03/20 4:39:10 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Company protects ip, faqer gets mad


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Zack_Attackv1
05/03/20 4:40:13 PM
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I remember when Naughty Dog used to be cool.
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EnragedSlith
05/03/20 4:41:06 PM
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nemu
05/03/20 4:41:46 PM
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Usually, the company doesn't actually have a leg legally, but the time and money it would take to fight them would be way too much for the average Youtuber. I'm not sure if there are any special provisions to leaked footage, but, if not, then all usage is fair use other than maybe reuploading the whole thing in its entirety.

Going by this topic, they're also doing it to speech only videos, which is 100% illegal usage of the DMCA as far as I'm aware.
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MarqueeSeries
05/03/20 4:50:54 PM
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If the story about the devs getting shafted on their bonus is true, then
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ChuckSDeuces
05/03/20 4:52:39 PM
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Any other time someone abuses copyright these dudes cry about content creator rights and how they're always getting screwed by companies.

But when Naughty Dog does it "Well, in this case I understand."

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Middle hope
05/03/20 4:53:03 PM
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Time for jim sterling to do a vid on it. If they try to dmca him, he would probably take it all the way to court through raised funds just to tell ND to fuck off

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KFHEWUI
05/03/20 4:55:24 PM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
I remember when Naughty Dog used to be cool.

Sadly. Then let Amy Hennig "leave". If Neil Druckmann was in fact the reason for forcing her out, ND deserves the crap they are getting.

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Questionmarktarius
05/05/20 4:14:11 AM
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Go rant on Dailymotion, instead of wasting everyone's time on youtube with exactly-ten-minute videos full of shit filer just to get monetized, while yellow-outlined fake shock expressions in the thumbnails and "I can't believe Brutus killed Caesar!"-type video titles pollute the sidebar
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UnfairRepresent
05/05/20 4:16:09 AM
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Wow @ People actually defending Naughty Dog doing this

Talking about the leaked plot of a story doesn't have anything to do with copyright.

This is just copyright trolling and it's wrong.
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Questionmarktarius
05/05/20 4:19:20 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Wow @ People actually defending Naughty Dog doing this
There's no "good guy" here.

May as well do a "last of us 2 spoilers finger family", just to see what happens.
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UnfairRepresent
05/05/20 4:20:48 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
There's no "good guy" here.

Yes there is.

The dudes just making videos talking about the TLOU are the good guys

Naughty Dog abusing the copyright system to take their videos down are bad guys.
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Questionmarktarius
05/05/20 4:31:09 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The dudes just making videos talking about the TLOU are the good guys
"Hey guys, it's somename-severalnumbers here, with a camera pointed up my nose while I rant in the corner of 'fair use?' video for ten minutes and two seconds. Be sure to like and subscribe!"
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UnfairRepresent
05/05/20 4:32:33 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

"Hey guys, it's somename-severalnumbers here, with a camera pointed up my nose while I rant in the corner of 'fair use?' video for ten minutes and two seconds. Be sure to like and subscribe!"

Yes them.

Even if you don't like the video, how are they the bad guys?

Hell why would they even be talking about fair use? The video would be about TLOU2 spoilers...

Sigless user logic.
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fan357
05/05/20 4:42:37 AM
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Naughty Dog is totally in the right but salty nerds on the internet gotta hate because the hive mind tells them to.

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Kolibri X
05/05/20 4:44:02 AM
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Criticism is not copyright infringement. A lot of these people were fans of the first game too, myself included. The same people who bought the first game, loved it, and told everyone else how great it was helping ND and Sony make millions of dollars. ND has made some terrible decisions of their own making with this new game and now they want to censor their opinions. It's really despicable and anymore who supports this abuse of the system is fucked up.

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UnfairRepresent
05/05/20 4:45:28 AM
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fan357 posted...
Naughty Dog is totally in the righ

No they are not.

Talking about spoilers has nothing to do with copyright.
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TheLastHero
05/05/20 4:47:17 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Criticism is not copyright infringement. A lot of these people were fans of the first game too, myself included. The same people who bought the first game, loved it, and told everyone else how great it was helping ND and Sony make millions of dollars. ND has made some terrible decisions of their own making with this new game and now they want to censor their opinions. It's really despicable and anymore who supports this abuse of the system is fucked up.


Let's be honest, you don't have legit criticism of the new game, you just hate that it involves LGBT
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Kolibri X
05/05/20 5:12:27 AM
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TheLastHero posted...
Let's be honest, you don't have legit criticism of the new game, you just hate that it involves LGBT
I don't care that there are gay characters, they were gay in the first game. My problem is how they decided to shit all over them. But you're a troll and I don't expect your tiny litte head to understand that.

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TheLastHero
05/05/20 5:30:11 AM
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Whatever you say, little buddy
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Beveren_Rabbit
05/05/20 9:42:47 AM
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St0rmFury
05/06/20 10:36:03 AM
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Guys, calm your tits for a while.

Maybe it was Sony who is doing this?

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FortuneCookie
05/06/20 10:49:42 AM
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Speech isn't copyrighted. What they're doing is baseline illegal.

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Propane4Sale
05/06/20 10:52:06 AM
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Middle hope posted...
Time for jim sterling to do a vid on it. If they try to dmca him, he would probably take it all the way to court through raised funds just to tell ND to fuck off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LRynF3PZn0

No Digital Homicide pt. 2 unfortunately
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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 11:22:26 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Speech isn't copyrighted. What they're doing is baseline illegal.
The NFL loves to imply that even discussing a football game with someone else requires written permission.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Hell why would they even be talking about fair use?
Any use of the leaked cutscenes at all would be fair use, in the proper fair-use contexts.

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EmbraceOfDeath
05/06/20 11:28:52 AM
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Major company literally takes illegal actions and yet for some reason people defend them. Typical.

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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 11:31:29 AM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Major company literally takes illegal actions and yet for some reason people defend them. Typical.
What's illegal about this?
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Zaltera
05/06/20 11:32:51 AM
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Disgusting if true.

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TheMikh
05/06/20 11:34:46 AM
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if discussing copyrighted material constitutes copyright infringement, free speech is dead in the 21st century when you take the potential extrapolations into consideration

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coh
05/06/20 11:34:55 AM
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@Questionmarktarius

Merely talking about spoilers is not copyright, dude. It'd be different if they actually showed anything from the game, but if it's just a guy in front of a camera talking, it ain't copyright infringement
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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 11:35:13 AM
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TheMikh posted...
free speech is dead in the 21st century when you take the potential extrapolations into consideration
Free speech doesn't apply to youtube.
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gunplagirl
05/06/20 11:39:02 AM
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Okay so from my understanding... Because the leak didn't contain any proprietary information about the engine or company, then while the leaker is definitely in hot water in the form of NDAs... Shouldn't discussion of the information from the leaks be totally fine and not able to be hit with a DMCA?

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Questionmarktarius
05/06/20 11:43:30 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Shouldn't discussion of the information from the leaks be totally fine and not able to be hit with a DMCA?
Not really subject to DMCA, no. At best this could be "trade secrets" or something.

However, it's Google's platform, and they can pull whatever content they want for whatever reason they want - especially so when a significant advertiser asks for disparaging content to be removed.

This is the rough equivalent of standing on your front porch and loudly protesting some damn thing, then screaming "free speech!!" when you tell me to get off your property.
Your porch is not the only platform available.
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dave_is_slick
05/09/20 5:09:59 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Toast get a new gimmick
I thought he stopped his shill gimmick but I guess I was wrong.

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hockeybub89
05/09/20 5:10:00 PM
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I bet you think review embargoes mean the devs know a game is gonna suck

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