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Ser_Jaker
04/27/20 6:46:08 PM
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That a girl kills Joel? Because that's kind of dumb.

If the whole narrative was "white men = bad" and shoving how transgender someone is i could get how it would be cringy. But people just seem mad that joel dies

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DeadBankerDream
04/27/20 6:47:42 PM
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Whats wrong with "showing how transgender someone is"?
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xmenhavok
04/27/20 6:48:40 PM
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To be fair it basically Karma for Joel.
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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:49:06 PM
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joel fucking had it coming

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Ser_Jaker
04/27/20 6:49:17 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Whats wrong with "showing how transgender someone is"?

I mean forcing it in peoples face. I don't really care if someone is trans even though i dont agree with it personally.

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BignutzisBack
04/27/20 6:50:00 PM
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After Joel dies you immediately take control of the person who killed him and the second half of the game is you hunting down Ellie. You either kill her or leave her on the brink of death and have a breakdown because you know you didn't get revenge for your dead mother who was one of the scientists Joel killed in the first game and then the game ends.

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DeadBankerDream
04/27/20 6:50:05 PM
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How is a videogame you can choose not to play forcing anything into your face?
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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:52:35 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
After Joel dies you immediately take control of the person who killed him and the second half of the game is you hunting down Ellie. You either kill her or leave her on the brink of death and have a breakdown because you know you didn't get revenge for your dead mother who was one of the scientists Joel killed in the first game and then the game ends.
this just proves how out of step I am with most gamers

I have no idea how someone could read this and think anything other than "holy shit that's so fucking cool"

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DeadBankerDream
04/27/20 6:54:24 PM
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Yeah, I dunno if that's the actual spoiler or just something he farted out, but it doesn't sound bad to me. At least it's an unexpected way to play the game if true, though I would be sad I didn't get to see much of Ellie's perspective.
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Darmik
04/27/20 6:56:24 PM
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A lot better than 'Ghost Joel' like a lot of people were speculating. Seems like the whole game is a consequence for the first game. Which is fine with me.

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Ser_Jaker
04/27/20 6:56:29 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
this just proves how out of step I am with most gamers

I have no idea how someone could read this and think anything other than "holy shit that's so fucking cool"

I agree it sounds cool too.

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UnholyMudcrab
04/27/20 6:56:45 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
BignutzisBack posted...
After Joel dies you immediately take control of the person who killed him and the second half of the game is you hunting down Ellie. You either kill her or leave her on the brink of death and have a breakdown because you know you didn't get revenge for your dead mother who was one of the scientists Joel killed in the first game and then the game ends.
this just proves how out of step I am with most gamers

I have no idea how someone could read this and not think anything other than "holy shit that's so fucking cool"

Cuz it's not.
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Kitt
04/27/20 6:57:54 PM
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Ser_Jaker posted...
That a girl kills Joel? Because that's kind of dumb.

If the whole narrative was "white men = bad" and shoving how transgender someone is i could get how it would be cringy. But people just seem mad that joel dies

That's pretty much what I've been gathering looking at the responses around. I like a good revenge story and this sounds wild (in a good way).
As a follow up, it makes perfect sense in the context of the shit that went down in the first game. It's not something being done solely for the sake of shock value. It's following a very clear theme the game's story is touching on; that being the "cycle of revenge". And come on, he kind of had it coming. I would've safely make a bet that Joel would, most likely, be killed in this. But the fact that they also kill off Ellie is a seriously ballsy move. I'm interested.
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Crashus
04/27/20 6:57:58 PM
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It feels like it's trying to be shocking just for the sake of being shocking. I dunno. I don't have any dogs in this fight, but that's how the twists feel to me.

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fan357
04/27/20 6:58:05 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
this just proves how out of step I am with most gamers

I have no idea how someone could read this and think anything other than "holy shit that's so fucking cool"


Because you are reading this out of context. It probably works a lot better in the final product.

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Doom_Art
04/27/20 6:58:21 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Cuz it's not.
if your goal is to tell a story about consequences, karma, retribution, and the cycle of revenge i can't think of a more creative and bolder way to deal with that in a video game format tbh

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UnholyMudcrab
04/27/20 6:59:24 PM
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I'm just not a fan in general of super bleak storytelling.
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Darmik
04/27/20 6:59:45 PM
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Crashus posted...
It feels like it's trying to be shocking just for the sake of being shocking. I dunno. I don't have any dogs in this fight, but that's how the twists feel to me.

Isn't that The Last of Us though. The pitch for the first game is a guy escorting a girl who should help provide a cure for humanity. A safe sequel wouldn't really work.

UnholyMudcrab posted...
I'm just not a fan in general of super bleak storytelling.

Then you wouldn't like the first game either I'd imagine.

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evil_zombie11
04/27/20 6:59:56 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
this just proves how out of step I am with most gamers

I have no idea how someone could read this and think anything other than "holy shit that's so fucking cool"

im def killing Ellie. Vengeance for Abby!!

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