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ConfessPlease
04/18/20 11:54:45 PM
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fhqwhgads posted...
You're part of the problem.
Can you explain how?

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trappedunderice
04/18/20 11:55:33 PM
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Ooooooranges
04/18/20 11:57:46 PM
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I mean there's really nothing to be proud of anymore.

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ConfessPlease
04/18/20 11:58:21 PM
#54:


WetboyEBR posted...
If you arent proud to be American, you dont need to be here.
Um yeah kind of. You don't really choose where you are born and it's kind of luck where you end up.

BigDD67 posted...
Go live in Iraq and then tell how big of a shithole the US is.

Signed,

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I think there is enough comments to show why this logic is stupid and pathetic.

BigDD67 posted...
If it's so bad why do so many want to come here? I've worked with so many people who came here and made an incredible life compared to what they had in Iraq, Congo, Vietnam, Phillipines, etc.

It's just the popular thing for people with absolutely no clue how good they have it to hate on the US. You don't have to be proud to be an American but your ungrateful ass should at least know how fortunate you are to be born here.
I am very grateful of my position that I'm in. My success comes from luck and being in a place where I can work a good a job and work up in life. I can still say I'm not happy with the direction of this country is. I never said I'm ungrateful but ok.


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Turbam
04/18/20 11:59:48 PM
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It doesn't make any sense to me to be proud of where you were born. It's not like you have any say in it.

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ConfessPlease
04/19/20 12:00:32 AM
#57:


CloneTheHero posted...
and these dopes would come running right back after a few days of starving and trying to learn a new language out there

lol

you dont have to be patriotic (im not) but to spit on the country that raised you just seems so self defeating. instead of trying to fix issues you guys wanna mope lol
And I feel like instead of trying to fix the issues people will say I'm ungrateful and don't have a right to complain or say how it is.

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WetboyEBR
04/19/20 12:02:29 AM
#58:


Fuck half the users in this flopic.
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ConfessPlease
04/19/20 12:04:23 AM
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WetboyEBR posted...
Fuck half the users in this flopic.
Hopefully I'm on the good side

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:05:09 AM
#60:


BigDD67 posted...
If it's so bad why do so many want to come here? I've worked with so many people who came here and made an incredible life compared to what they had in Iraq, Congo, Vietnam, Phillipines, etc.

It's just the popular thing for people with absolutely no clue how good they have it to hate on the US. You don't have to be proud to be an American but your ungrateful ass should at least know how fortunate you are to be born here.

Basically this. I could understand people being unhappy with the government or various historical instances here, but the fact holds true that being here provides MASSIVE advantages you simply dont get elsewhere.

Thats why flag burners piss me off so much. The insolence you have to have to not see the extreme distaste in that, form of protest or not. Fucking disgusting.

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Garioshi
04/19/20 12:05:33 AM
#61:


Ving_Rhames posted...
Never have been and never will be. I was born here, whats there to be proud of about that?


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Ving_Rhames
04/19/20 12:06:05 AM
#62:


CloneTheHero posted...
and these dopes would come running right back after a few days of starving and trying to learn a new language out there

lol

you dont have to be patriotic (im not) but to spit on the country that raised you just seems so self defeating. instead of trying to fix issues you guys wanna mope lol

lol what, even if I wanted to move somewhere that isn't english speaking (I wouldn't because I'm not an idiot), I already know Spanish and French, so I'd actually have options outside of the obvious 1st world countries that don't have people that say small minded shit like what you just did. "Country that raised you", foh.

WetboyEBR posted...
Fuck half the users in this flopic.

Shutup Duncan.

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ConfessPlease
04/19/20 12:06:10 AM
#63:


Kensaimage posted...
Basically this. I could understand people being unhappy with the government or various historical instances here, but the fact holds true that being here provides MASSIVE advantages you simply dont get elsewhere.

Thats why flag burners piss me off so much. The insolence you have to have to not see the extreme distaste in that, form of protest or not. Fucking disgusting.
I'm more on the tired of stupid people like the ones blocking hospitals protesting and the governments corruption and response to thignsn I never said i hate the US or the benefits I've gotten from it all.

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Umbreon
04/19/20 12:06:37 AM
#64:


Why are you pissed off at people burning a flag? Be pissed off at the people dragging this country down. A flag is a piece of cloth, it is nothing compared to the people who prop up the country.

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:06:59 AM
#65:


ConfessPlease posted...
And I feel like instead of trying to fix the issues people will say I'm ungrateful and don't have a right to complain or say how it is.

Youre free to do whatever you want. Though you must understand others are free to critique your thinking. Having right to free speech goes both ways
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Wii_Shaker
04/19/20 12:08:30 AM
#66:


Umbreon posted...
Why are you pissed off at people burning a flag? Be pissed off at the people dragging this country down. A flag is a piece of cloth, it is nothing compared to the people who prop up the country.

Solid point. I understand that the effigy is made to incite rage but if people feel so passionately about it they would be equally enraged about corruption that defies the concept which it represents.

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:09:24 AM
#67:


Umbreon posted...
Why are you pissed off at people burning a flag? Be pissed off at the people dragging this country down. A flag is a piece of cloth, it is nothing compared to the people who prop up the country.

Because it represents people who literally died for this country throughout its entire history. Died for the right you have to burn said flag. Which, to me, is pretty ignorant and disgraceful.

Protest all you want. Im just sayin flag burning to me sends the wrong message. Do that infront of some vet widows and get an earful right there what they think of that
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Yadoken
04/19/20 12:09:56 AM
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Join the peace corp. Go to a 3rd world country and help them out for 2 years. Come back and start appreciating the privileged life you live in America.

The problem with many younger people is they are not grateful. They have no gratitude. Plus they never put their money where their mouth is. All they do is talk and nothing more. They spout change but do nothing to contribute to the change. All they do is point and shout, then go back to living their crappy life.

Its not a good way to live. Its actually sad and pathetic.

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:10:08 AM
#69:


Wii_Shaker posted...
Solid point. I understand that the effigy is made to incite rage but if people feel so passionately about it they would be equally enraged about corruption that defies the concept which it represents.

I didnt say you shouldnt be upset about the corruption. Merely why going about it burning a flag is distasteful
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dj1200
04/19/20 12:10:10 AM
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I'm not proud. I just am. Its not like there's anything to be proud of.

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ConfessPlease
04/19/20 12:10:10 AM
#71:


Kensaimage posted...
Youre free to do whatever you want. Though you must understand others are free to critique your thinking. Having right to free speech goes both ways
When did complain about people having fee speech lmao

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LightningAce11
04/19/20 12:10:26 AM
#72:


People didn't need to die for the flag, they just wanted to go fight in a rich man/government's war and kill foreign people.

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:12:42 AM
#73:


ConfessPlease posted...
When did complain about people having fee speech lmao

You expressed remorse over people telling you that you have no right to complain. My point was that you do, but you gotta accept that your gonna get an opposing opinion
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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:13:42 AM
#74:


ConfessPlease posted...
I'm more on the tired of stupid people like the ones blocking hospitals protesting and the governments corruption and response to thignsn I never said i hate the US or the benefits I've gotten from it all.

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Paper_Okami
04/19/20 12:13:46 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPKsv25xEwA

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ConfessPlease
04/19/20 12:14:05 AM
#76:


Kensaimage posted...
You expressed remorse over people telling you that you have no right to complain. My point was that you do, but you gotta accept that your gonna get an opposing opinion
Yeah I guess

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:14:12 AM
#77:


LightningAce11 posted...
People didn't need to die for the flag, they just wanted to go fight in a rich man/government's war and kill foreign people.

This kinda disrespectful shit right here. Disgusting.
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muchdran
04/19/20 12:14:43 AM
#78:


LightningAce11 posted...
People didn't need to die for the flag, they just wanted to go fight in a rich man/government's war and kill foreign people.
Are you fucking serious?
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Umbreon
04/19/20 12:14:44 AM
#79:


Kensaimage posted...
Because it represents people who literally died for this country throughout its entire history. Died for the right you have to burn said flag. Which, to me, is pretty ignorant and disgraceful.

Protest all you want. Im just sayin flag burning to me sends the wrong message. Do that infront of some vet widows and get an earful right there what they think of that


I feel nothing for the flag itself, but I do agree that burning it doesn't really accomplish anything positive.

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:14:47 AM
#80:


ConfessPlease posted...
Yeah I guess

I meant no hostility by it. It just goes both ways is all I mean.
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ConfessPlease
04/19/20 12:16:45 AM
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And to be honest maybe it's maybe the vocal majority that I see on the news and stuff. Like I said I'm insecure and I feel it and it's hard for me to deal with. I actually do think 90 percent of people are decent. Also other countries probably have the same stupid people.

I think the government corruption and stuff is the stuff the makes me so mad lately.

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Garioshi
04/19/20 12:17:11 AM
#82:


Kensaimage posted...
Because it represents people who literally died for this country throughout its entire history. Died for the right you have to burn said flag. Which, to me, is pretty ignorant and disgraceful.

Protest all you want. Im just sayin flag burning to me sends the wrong message. Do that infront of some vet widows and get an earful right there what they think of that
oh no not a piece of fucking cloth

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onedarksoul
04/19/20 12:18:32 AM
#83:


Part of the issue is people can not seem to separate the govts actions from the people.

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trappedunderice
04/19/20 12:18:50 AM
#84:


The topic title should be Anyone not happy to be an American? Pride is something you have achieved yourself.
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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:18:53 AM
#85:


Garioshi posted...
oh no not a piece of fucking cloth

Way to totally ignore WHY I stated its significant. Not because of its physical makeup.

Whoosh!

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Wii_Shaker
04/19/20 12:18:58 AM
#86:


ConfessPlease posted...
I think the government corruption and stuff is the stuff the makes me so mad lately.

Trump wears his corruption on his sleeve but at least we know how he's corrupt.

It's the sneaky ones you have to look out for.


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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:22:24 AM
#88:


ConfessPlease posted...
And to be honest maybe it's maybe the vocal majority that I see on the news and stuff. Like I said I'm insecure and I feel it and it's hard for me to deal with. I actually do think 90 percent of people are decent. Also other countries probably have the same stupid people.

I think the government corruption and stuff is the stuff the makes me so mad lately.

Thing is, I agree. We do have a lot of bullshit and corruption at the top. Its a serious issue and this country does have a lot of issues.

It frustrates me as well. I just think people taking it to this America sucks rhetoric (not saying you, TC, but people in general) have no idea the scope of advantages they enjoy in this country.

There are places in the world where horrific things can legally take place in the town square and they dont give a FUCK about your rights or humanity. America is far from perfect, but its still certainly up there on the list of places to live
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Garioshi
04/19/20 12:28:31 AM
#89:


Kensaimage posted...
Way to totally ignore WHY I stated its significant. Not because of its physical makeup.

Whoosh!
America is much, much more than people who died in wars (not all of which were protecting my right to free speech) and it's disingenuous to say otherwise. If I wanted to "disrespect the troops" by burning a piece of cloth, I'd burn a flag of one of the military branches. As it's used right now, flag burning is nothing more than a means of expressing dissent, and there is nothing more patriotic than dissent. Your reductionist view of it does not attempt to understand the person's intentions and instead forces what you think their intentions are onto them.

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CrazyandLazy
04/19/20 12:30:42 AM
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American has been the shining beacon of hope for the last 200 or so years. Smh.

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Umbreon
04/19/20 12:31:51 AM
#91:


There are advantages to living in America.

But that doesn't erase the downsides of the country. We should be working to get rid of those downsides, not telling people that it's worse elsewhere.

Resting on your laurels is the path to failure.

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Frisk
04/19/20 12:32:27 AM
#92:


Nope, I haven't been since January 2017

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Kensaimage
04/19/20 12:33:55 AM
#93:


Garioshi posted...
America is much, much more than people who died in wars (not all of which were protecting my right to free speech) and it's disingenuous to say otherwise. If I wanted to "disrespect the troops" by burning a piece of cloth, I'd burn a flag of one of the military branches. As it's used right now, flag burning is nothing more than a means of expressing dissent, and there is nothing more patriotic than dissent. Your reductionist view of it does not attempt to understand the person's intentions and instead forces what you think their intentions are onto them.

Do it infront of a veteran. See what THEY think of that. They might have quite an earful for you.

Just because YOU dont take offense to that doesnt mean millions of Americans dont. Regardless of the intentions.

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Umbreon
04/19/20 12:36:19 AM
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I can't speak for veterans, but honestly you'd think they would be more pissed off at being tossed aside by their own government once they were no longer useful to them. Or how the current president basically had no respect for them and thinks his draft dodging ass "knows more than the generals".

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L_S_P
04/19/20 12:39:42 AM
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People who look to all the better places fail to realize all the better places are generally much less diverse than America. That's all I can say about that.
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casio_guy
04/19/20 12:41:20 AM
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Idk. I was born here and don't have much of a frame of reference to compare to living anywhere else. It's not bad but there are a ton of negative vibes.

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Garioshi
04/19/20 12:42:09 AM
#97:


Kensaimage posted...
Do it infront of a veteran. See what THEY think of that. They might have quite an earful for you.

Just because YOU dont take offense to that doesnt mean millions of Americans dont. Regardless of the intentions.
The veterans might want to join in the flag burning given how terribly the US government takes care of them for putting their lives on the line, or how the US repeatedly puts the lives of its own citizens on the line for offensive wars that have nothing to do with its citizens. Why are you more upset about the destruction of this symbol that (apparently only) represents the sacrifices of veterans than the actual disrespect of the sacrifices of veterans by the US government?

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Shablagoo
04/19/20 12:43:52 AM
#98:


Kensaimage posted...
Do it infront of a veteran. See what THEY think of that. They might have quite an earful for you.

Just because YOU dont take offense to that doesnt mean millions of Americans dont. Regardless of the intentions.

Lol. Let me introduce you to some of my Vietnam vet buddies, dude.

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Umbreon
04/19/20 12:48:34 AM
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*Post 95*

Anyone else hear whistling?

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