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epik_fail1
04/19/20 10:52:29 AM
#252:


soulunison2 posted...
lol

Then let's prevent all idiots who ever said bigoted crap from changing their level of education, that will go so well /sarcasm

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Anteaterking
04/19/20 10:53:59 AM
#253:


MutantJohn posted...
Why would someone want a racist to not go to college? Isn't education and community a solution to that kind of thinking? Seems like all it'd really do is cement her racist feelings.

"It turns out that the thing I really don't want to lose would actually be the perfect solution to my problem!"

People who are racist enough to post a vid like this aren't just a casual college experience away from being not racist.

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soulunison2
04/19/20 10:54:37 AM
#254:


epik_fail1 posted...
Then let's prevent all idiots who ever said bigoted crap from changing their level of education, that will go so well /sarcasm

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 10:56:45 AM
#255:


soulunison2 posted...
im down for that

You realise that EDUCATION is what made a lot of people with prejudices CHANGE. You have a pretty ridiculous mentality.

People were more racist in the past due to lack of education

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SSJGrimReaper
04/19/20 10:57:23 AM
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soulunison2
04/19/20 11:00:06 AM
#257:


epik_fail1 posted...
You realise that EDUCATION is what made a lot of people with prejudices CHANGE. You have a pretty ridiculous mentality.

People were more racist in the past due to lack of education

oh so youre saying we should stop their upward mobility based on their prior offenses?

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Taharqa_
04/19/20 11:01:59 AM
#258:


epik_fail1 posted...
You realise that EDUCATION is what made a lot of people with prejudices CHANGE. You have a pretty ridiculous mentality.

People were more racist in the past due to lack of education

Eh, there were a ton of 'educated racists' in the past that were hellbent on proving the 'superiority of the white race' and the inferiority of the others.

This goes beyond education or lack thereof.

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 11:03:03 AM
#259:


SSJGrimReaper posted...
lol

I used to have dumb prejudices about muslims because I heard my parents say too many stupid shit. I also evolved and change my views while going through college(where I live you can be at college at 16-17 though). If you think that preventing ignorant to have an education will reduce racism, it shows that you care more about feeling strong through a lynch mob than actually changing people. I've met homophobes that changed while going to college as well. Yes, she should get some sort of punishment, but preventing her to have an education or making her death threats is a terrible way to do it.

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 11:04:11 AM
#260:


Taharqa_ posted...
Eh, there were a ton of 'educated racists' in the past that were hellbent on proving the 'superiority of the white race' and the inferiority of the others.

This goes beyond education or lack thereof.

Are you kidding me? Their is also educated people who believe in irrational crap, but their is way more educated ones that won't believe in dumb illuminati theories.

Oh and in the past, they usually did not educate people on racism either and had tons of religious classes...

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Machete
04/19/20 11:09:50 AM
#261:


epik_fail1 posted...


I don't, she is far from being a supermodel. And you guys realise that a lot of people who were racist/homophobic or other shit like that evolve by going to college and learning about the world? Having consequences for her actions is fine, but preventing her to evolve is dumb as fuck. A lot of people who say bigoted crap do it because their family normalised it. It doesn't excuse the action, but preventing people to change is another story.


If preventing evolution was dumb as fuck, why do Everstones exist? Thinking emoji.
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soulunison2
04/19/20 11:10:12 AM
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Machete posted...
If preventing evolution was dumb as fuck, why do Everstones exist? Thinking emoji.

fuck you owned him bro
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epik_fail1
04/19/20 11:12:12 AM
#263:


Machete posted...
If preventing evolution was dumb as fuck, why do Everstones exist? Thinking emoji.

Well... I did laugh.

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Machete
04/19/20 11:12:32 AM
#264:


epik_fail1 posted...


Are you kidding me? Their is also educated people who believe in irrational crap, but their is way more educated ones that won't believe in dumb illuminati theories.

Oh and in the past, they usually did not educate people on racism either and had tons of religious classes...


"Their is also educated..."

Oh my fuck... You can't make this shit up lmao
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soulunison2
04/19/20 11:17:21 AM
#265:


Machete posted...
"Their is also educated..."

Oh my fuck... You can't make this shit up lmao

I mean hes trying
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Taharqa_
04/19/20 11:24:52 AM
#266:


epik_fail1 posted...
Are you kidding me? Their is also educated people who believe in irrational crap, but their is way more educated ones that won't believe in dumb illuminati theories.

Oh and in the past, they usually did not educate people on racism either and had tons of religious classes...

Who are you trying to fool or gaslight here?

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MutantJohn
04/19/20 11:28:34 AM
#267:


My, my, seems like my comment rustled a lot of jim jims.

Do you wanna know why I don't think her tiktok is a big deal? It's because it's just plain stupid. Yes, it's ostensibly racist. But it's mostly just stupid.

It doesn't attempt to disguise itself as intellectual by misinterpreting stats or biology to attempt to prove a narrative. Now that kind of racism is actually harmful because you can use it sway other people's thinking.

This is just some idiot girl being an idiot on the internet. Chill out, guys. You need hobbies that aren't outrage.


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soulunison2
04/19/20 11:29:36 AM
#268:


MutantJohn posted...
My, my, seems like my comment rustled a lot of jim jims.

Do you wanna know why I don't think her tiktok is a big deal? It's because it's just plain stupid. Yes, it's ostensibly racist. But it's mostly just stupid.

It doesn't attempt to disguise itself as intellectual by misinterpreting stats or biology to attempt to prove a narrative. Now that kind of racism is actually harmful because you can use it sway other people's thinking.

This is just some idiot girl being an idiot on the internet. Chill out, guys. You need hobbies that aren't outrage.

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 11:36:23 AM
#269:


Taharqa_ posted...
Who are you trying to fool or gaslight here?

Are you serious? I condemn racism and homophobia and I am just saying people can change? You really believe I am trying to "fool" someone. I am 100% sure you said something you regretted in the past(but you will be a huge hypocrite and pretend it never happened like most people). I am not condoning her actions, I am against not letting people have an education and against making death threats. Nice twisting of words though

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teepan95
04/19/20 11:37:32 AM
#270:


Not going to her choice of college =\= not getting an education
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MutantJohn
04/19/20 11:41:35 AM
#272:


oh shit i love meltys
Is this what they call meltdowns nowadays? Oh man, back in my day, we had real meltdowns where accounts would get suspended.


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epik_fail1
04/19/20 11:41:57 AM
#273:


MutantJohn posted...
My, my, seems like my comment rustled a lot of jim jims.

Do you wanna know why I don't think her tiktok is a big deal? It's because it's just plain stupid. Yes, it's ostensibly racist. But it's mostly just stupid.

It doesn't attempt to disguise itself as intellectual by misinterpreting stats or biology to attempt to prove a narrative. Now that kind of racism is actually harmful because you can use it sway other people's thinking.

This is just some idiot girl being an idiot on the internet. Chill out, guys. You need hobbies that aren't outrage.
I know a girl who act like them. You can still see her transphobic post to that day on her old posts from 2010. She obviously changed, but according to her own standard, she deserves to have her whole life ruined and never be allowed to change. I am 100% sure if you looked at the past posts of lynch mobists, you could find something incriminating as well.

I won't do that, but lynch mobists rarely apply their own standards to themselves

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soulunison2
04/19/20 11:42:29 AM
#274:


MutantJohn posted...
Is this what they call meltdowns nowadays? Oh man, back in my day, we had real meltdowns where accounts would get suspended.
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FursonaNonGrata
04/19/20 11:42:34 AM
#275:


MutantJohn posted...
back in my day, we had real meltdowns where accounts would get suspended.

The difference now is that mods don't give a shit about moderating racism and people who defend it

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 11:45:33 AM
#276:


FursonaNonGrata posted...
The difference now is that mods don't give a shit about moderating racism and people who defend it

Litterally nobody thinks what she has done is ok. Stop saying people defend her actions.

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teepan95
04/19/20 11:46:54 AM
#277:


epik_fail1 posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...
The difference now is that mods don't give a shit about moderating racism and people who defend it

Litterally nobody thinks what she has done is ok. Stop saying people defend her actions.

People in this topic have said what she's done is OK
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MutantJohn
04/19/20 12:20:33 PM
#278:


Uh oh, I even triggered the mods.

I'm not gonna lie, the new generation impresses me. If this is enough to incite this much outrage, it means the world's really changed for the better. And that's a really cool thing.

Rock on, zoomers.

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Taharqa_
04/19/20 12:29:48 PM
#279:


epik_fail1 posted...
Are you serious? I condemn racism and homophobia and I am just saying people can change? You really believe I am trying to "fool" someone. I am 100% sure you said something you regretted in the past(but you will be a huge hypocrite and pretend it never happened like most people). I am not condoning her actions, I am against not letting people have an education and against making death threats. Nice twisting of words though

Nice jumping off onto something that we weren't discussing at the time. I was not referring to death threats or keeping her out of college. I was making a comment on how you said that educated people are less likely to be racist when that is not always true as history has repeatedly demonstrated.

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soulunison2
04/19/20 12:33:59 PM
#280:


MutantJohn posted...
Uh oh, I even triggered the mods.

I'm not gonna lie, the new generation impresses me. If this is enough to incite this much outrage, it means the world's really changed for the better. And that's a really cool thing.

Rock on, zoomers.

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Blue_Inigo
04/19/20 12:34:33 PM
#281:


MutantJohn posted...
My, my, seems like my comment rustled a lot of jim jims.

Do you wanna know why I don't think her tiktok is a big deal? It's because it's just plain stupid. Yes, it's ostensibly racist. But it's mostly just stupid.

It doesn't attempt to disguise itself as intellectual by misinterpreting stats or biology to attempt to prove a narrative. Now that kind of racism is actually harmful because you can use it sway other people's thinking.

This is just some idiot girl being an idiot on the internet. Chill out, guys. You need hobbies that aren't outrage.


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epik_fail1
04/19/20 12:38:42 PM
#282:


Taharqa_ posted...
Nice jumping off onto something that we weren't discussing at the time. I was not referring to death threats or keeping her out of college. I was making a comment on how you said that educated people are less likely to be racist when that is not always true as history has repeatedly demonstrated.

You are right that it's not always true, but honestly their is a massive amount of racists that I have met that did not even have a high school diploma. You cannot deny that their is some kind of correlation.

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Keith_Valentine
04/19/20 12:43:18 PM
#283:


soulunison2 posted...
i enjoyed this melty

Thats not a melty, shut the fuck up soul. Youre trying too hard.
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Taharqa_
04/19/20 12:48:14 PM
#284:


epik_fail1 posted...
You are right that it's not always true, but honestly their is a massive amount of racists that I have met that did not even have a high school diploma. You cannot deny that their is some kind of correlation.

I've been around the block long enough to see it represented among both. The smarter ones are usually able to hide it better or code it in dog whistles.

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soulunison2
04/19/20 12:52:12 PM
#285:


Keith_Valentine posted...
Thats not a melty, shut the fuck up soul. Youre trying too hard.

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apocalyptic_4
04/19/20 12:56:02 PM
#286:


Have we arrived at "racism isnt a big deal, black people need to get over it" yet

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soulunison2
04/19/20 12:56:39 PM
#287:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
Have we arrived at "racism isnt a big deal, black people need to get over it" yet

nah not yet
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epik_fail1
04/19/20 12:56:49 PM
#288:


Taharqa_ posted...
I've been around the block long enough to see it represented among both. The smarter ones are usually able to hide it better or code it in dog whistles.

I never said it never happens, but if the average people in 2020 is less racist than the average person in 1940. Education probably played a huge role in that. I've also see it happen, but I also have seen people with prejudices change while going through college. Plenty of people were raised by parents with questionable moral standards when it comes to racism, but some changed. If education did not play a role in that, then what did?

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 1:14:04 PM
#290:


shockthemonkey posted...
We got a this is racist but its not really racist like the stuff I find online which is a weird as fuck take considering how blaming racist this was and how it sounded like some dude went searching for the most racist stuff he could find

I just looked at the video and it was honestly worse than what I thought. I still don't support the death threats though

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teepan95
04/19/20 1:35:18 PM
#291:


epik_fail1 posted...
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I just looked at the video and it was honestly worse than what I thought. I still don't support the death threats though

Neither does anyone else itt
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epik_fail1
04/19/20 1:39:52 PM
#292:


teepan95 posted...
Neither does anyone else itt

Their was a comment with about 450 likes on twitter, it seems gone. I was referring to that.

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Mr_Karate_II
04/19/20 1:49:21 PM
#293:


No college should take her, she's not sorry she said it.

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Taharqa_
04/19/20 1:55:28 PM
#294:


epik_fail1 posted...
I never said it never happens, but if the average people in 2020 is less racist than the average person in 1940. Education probably played a huge role in that. I've also see it happen, but I also have seen people with prejudices change while going through college. Plenty of people were raised by parents with questionable moral standards when it comes to racism, but some changed. If education did not play a role in that, then what did?

Well, anti-discrimination laws for one in addition to minorities saying "not today". A certain amount of deprogramming has to be done to get people to cast aside their racial prejudices. You say education, I say in addition to education with higher learning you also get more exposure to people other than yourself from all walks of life. People live in bubbles, higher education doesn't mean that the bubble will crack because you still have racial incidents across campuses all across the country. Empathy and exposure are the more important factors imo.


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epik_fail1
04/19/20 2:02:53 PM
#295:


Taharqa_ posted...
Well, anti-discrimination laws for one in addition to minorities saying "not today". A certain amount of deprogramming has to be done to get people to cast aside their racial prejudices. You say education, I say in addition to education with higher learning you also get more exposure to people other than yourself from all walks of life. People live in bubbles, higher education doesn't mean that the bubble will crack because you still have racial incidents across campuses all across the country. Empathy and exposure are the more important factors imo.

Fair enough. Come to think of it meeting muslims women in real life helped me a lot to "deprogram" the dumb prejudices I had. I just wish my parents would also evolve from their archaic views and I have no clue what to do. They are not stupid enough to do videos like this girl at least

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teepan95
04/19/20 2:10:58 PM
#297:


Conflict posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
And you guys realise that a lot of people who were racist/homophobic or other shit like that evolve by going to college and learning about the world?


They really don't

I'm pretty sure you guys completely fabricated this in your head b/c you don't want people to actually reap any consequences for their actions

At least this poster admitted he was wrong

I can respect that @epik_fail1
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epik_fail1
04/19/20 2:17:12 PM
#298:


Conflict posted...
They really don't

I'm pretty sure you guys completely fabricated this in your head b/c you don't want people to actually reap any consequences for their actions

Except that tons of people had dumb prejudices in the past(I am guilty of that, I had shitty views on muslims and trans and they changed although I was never stupid enough to do videos like her) and teachers told a lot about racism/islamophobia/etc. Plenty of people admitted they changed their views after getting higher level of education. Are you going to also condemn people who changed?

Where I live a radio animator thought a black guy who stole a bicycle when he was 14 should have his whole life ruined. Do you agree with this? Because I think the radio animator is in the wrong personality and when I wrote on his Facebook my disagreement, people told me the exact same thing you did.

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epik_fail1
04/19/20 3:44:37 PM
#300:


Conflict posted...
No it's just funny that you think the very slim possibility of someone changing after going to college means that people should be absolved of consequences that involve college

A lot of people don't learn shit when they go to college. We still have loads of frat students doing dumb racist shit

That's not even remotely comparable to this lmao. On top of that, not being able to go to college doesn't exactly mean your whole life is ruined

Her personal information being all over the internet may mean that though, but like I said before. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

I had talk with hardcore homophobes and successfully changed their views.

Read this, you may start being honest about your arguments after that instead of putting words in my mouth I never said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2016/11/15/13595508/racism-research-study-trump

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