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Ubergeneral3
04/08/20 3:07:50 PM
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If Biden wins the presidency this is what will happen.

The Repulicans will be devistated that their good old boy trump lost. It's unheard of a president to not win his reelection.

Biden will be ineffective. Nothing will change. The bombs will not stop dropping and while he might do a little to fix global warming the main cause, fossil fuels goes unchanged.

In 2024 the republicans will return with a vengence and put up someone worse. They might win. It's certain that no other democrats will try to run against him securing Biden as nominee for the election. No chance for a democratic socialist.

If the republicans win it could be 12 years before there is chance for another Democratic Socialist to run for office. If the Democrats win, it's only 8. Still that is a long time.

We are at a turning point of Human history right now. We need a green new deal now. 8 or 12 years from now is too late. Biden winning won't teach the DNC what people want. The DNC needs to learn that they need to go farther left of lose elections.

If they can cheat and still win, nothing happens, nothing changes and we are doomed to live a dark future of wage slavery, endless war and rising fascism.


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K181
04/08/20 3:08:48 PM
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Medicore is better than horribly shitty.

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Doom_Art
04/08/20 3:09:05 PM
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am i really supposed to endure another several months of idiotic takes like this like in 2016?

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Veggeta_EDGE
04/08/20 3:09:54 PM
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What a hot take

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Blue_Inigo
04/08/20 3:27:47 PM
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Biden doesnt enable nazis like Trump does, so shut the fuck up

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SilvosForever
04/08/20 3:28:50 PM
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The Trent
04/08/20 3:29:07 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
wage slavery


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Damn_Underscore
04/08/20 3:30:31 PM
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Biden said he would only run for one term. Next election it would probably be his vice President vs. a more progressive candidate in the primary.
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Thompson
04/08/20 3:30:47 PM
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As if Biden will live to 2024.

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Politics
04/08/20 3:33:06 PM
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Biden has hinted that he might only serve one term IIRC

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NintendoFan81
04/08/20 3:33:07 PM
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Biden (or anyone that is Democrat) is better than Trump+GOP, period.

Imagine if GOP stood up to Trump- they could've had someone run against him. But they are too afraid, because if anyone says anything.. Trump insults them and makes their life a living hell until they apologize and/or quit. But it doesn't matter what GOP does- they are (more now than ever) the party that gerrymanders elections, lies and puts profits over health. The recent Wisconsin election is even more proof of that.

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DrizztLink
04/08/20 3:33:34 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
It's unheard of a president to not win his reelection.
There's been 22 one term presidents out of 45. Carter and Bush weren't even that long ago.

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1NfamousACE_2
04/08/20 3:34:20 PM
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If you think Trump was bad...wait until he doesn't have to worry about reelection. He's gonna burn this place down on the way out.

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Doom_Art
04/08/20 3:36:25 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
Then well just get another monster Republican at the end of Bidens term.
Do people not understand that if they don't vote for the GOP then this doesn't need to necessarily be true

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Wii_Shaker
04/08/20 3:37:27 PM
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Thompson posted...
As if Biden will live to 2024.
They should just put his brain in a jar now before it rots in his head.

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Anteaterking
04/08/20 3:50:13 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
I actually agree with TC. If Biden wins then everyone is going to pat themselves on the back and nothing will change. Then well just get another monster Republican at the end of Bidens term. For there to be real change, Trump has to win again and things have to get worse.

Remember when four years of Trump didn't give us Biden?

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DrizztLink
04/08/20 3:50:51 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Remember when four years of Trump didn't give us Biden?
No, because I am not Merlin and thus do not experience time backwards.

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Irony
04/08/20 3:50:56 PM
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Doubt it

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Sackgurl
04/08/20 3:52:23 PM
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biden will be appointing a supreme court justice

that alone is reason enough that his presidency will not hurt america more than a second term for trump

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Goldenguy
04/08/20 3:55:50 PM
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You're assuming Biden would go for a second term. Unless he really blows the doors off of expectations.. I really don't see that happening.

You're also forgetting the fact that the president of the next four years has a great chance at one SC nomination and quite possibly two. If Trump gets reelected, you can say goodbye to any truly progressive thing for 25 years. At worst, Biden is a four year stopgap that also prevents the SC from getting more out of hand.

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Anteaterking
04/08/20 3:56:30 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
No, because I am not Merlin and thus do not experience time backwards.

I meant as democratic nominee, but fair.

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BLAKUboy
04/08/20 3:59:07 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
If you think Trump was bad...wait until he doesn't have to worry about reelection. He's gonna burn this place down on the way out.
Plus the 2+ SC seats he'll get to fill that will completely fuck us over for at least a century.

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creativerealms
04/08/20 4:01:00 PM
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The Repulicans will be devistated that their good old boy trump lost. It's unheard of a president to not win his reelection.

No. The moment Trump is out of office most of the GOP will turn on him and act like they never supported him. Most of them are only loyal to him because he's president right now and will turn on him in a second.

That said yeah the republicans won't work with Biden but they wouldn't work with Sanders ether. Though Sanders would be able to unite the republicans and democrats, against Sanders.

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creativerealms
04/08/20 4:01:32 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I wonder if a Democratic Senate would have the balls to refuse to confirm anyone Trump nominated to the SC.
Nope.

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DragonGirlYuki
04/08/20 4:06:52 PM
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Sanders is worse for the economy than either of them.

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Wii_Shaker
04/08/20 4:07:40 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Sanders is worse for the economy than either of them.
How so?

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DragonGirlYuki
04/08/20 4:08:52 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
How so?
Sanders is too far left with his socialist policies.

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Ubergeneral3
04/08/20 4:13:26 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
There's been 22 one term presidents out of 45. Carter and Bush weren't even that long ago.

Bush sr. Was just regan's third term and Carter, while he was a good president faced incredible opposition. He also came in a turmulous time in American politics, right after the resignation of Nixon. The new normal hadn't been established yet. In both cases these presidents were unusual. Since then everyone has gotten a second term, with little really stopping them from getting the nomination.

as for other presidents. I don't count anything before WW2 the world was too different then and can't really be compared.

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Delirious_Beard
04/08/20 4:15:11 PM
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this "you made me do this!" angle of supposed resignation in voting for trump has never, and will never hold up

you are not fooling anyone

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Wii_Shaker
04/08/20 4:15:17 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Sanders is too far left with his socialist policies.
Too much spending? I call bullshit.

The economy would be stronger if there were less people struggling.

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coolboy11
04/08/20 4:15:52 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
I actually agree with TC. If Biden wins then everyone is going to pat themselves on the back and nothing will change. Then well just get another monster Republican at the end of Bidens term. For there to be real change, Trump has to win again and things have to get worse.
this is a laughable cute take.

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legendary_zell
04/08/20 4:16:44 PM
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What about all the people destroyed in the meantime? What about all the norms and checks bypassed in the meantime? What about all the lifetime appointments that we can never get rid of making horrible law in the meantime?

A second Trump term cannot happen under any circumstances. If you think the country is an oligarchy or plutocracy or kleptocracy now, just wait until Trump has 4 years of completely unchecked power without the threat of an election, impeachment, or any other way to reign him in and with an utterly scarred and demoralized Democratic party and electorate. This country wouldn't recover for a hundred years. Everything you care about would be sold to the highest bidder.

This accelerationism idea didn't work as expected since 2016. People posted the exact same thing, saying a Trump presidency would accelerate the awakening of the left. Well we have Joe Biden vs Trump now because when Dems deal with a crazy person in the Whitehouse, they get super risk averse, not radical. We saw it with Bush, we saw it with Reagan, we're seeing it now.

Biden has a loooot of flaws but the best possible outcome at this point is that he wins. You really really really don't wanna live in the timeline where he loses if you actually care about the quality of life for human beings and this planet. Trump will further erode the institutions of this country and the minds of the people he influences to the point where human centric ideology won't be able to take hold in this country no matter what the people actually want.

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Questionmarktarius
04/08/20 4:17:56 PM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
Bush sr. Was just regan's third term and Carter, while he was a good president faced incredible opposition. He also came in a turmulous time in American politics, right after the resignation of Nixon. The new normal hadn't been established yet.
Carter was elected during a time the Republican party was behaving like the Democratic party has done for the past several elections.
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/08/20 4:18:43 PM
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I'm not a Biden fan, but Trump's presidency has been a complete shitshow so I'm gonna have to disagree on this one.

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Wii_Shaker
04/08/20 4:19:47 PM
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coolboy11 posted...
this is a laughable cute take.
It's insane to think that in order to avoid a monster in office we have to elect said monster.

Also, I'm sure whoever the GOP digs up in the next election will be much more palatable to both republicans and democrats.

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Polycosm
04/08/20 4:21:49 PM
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Okay, but here's some not-so-wild prognostication: if Trump wins another term, he's going to put two more Kavanaughs on the Supreme Court and the Judicial branch will be Republican for generations to come.

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Questionmarktarius
04/08/20 4:23:12 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
Also, I'm sure whoever the GOP digs up in the next election will be much more palatable to both republicans and democrats.
The current guy rode in on jingoism, in reaction to a 'global citizen' turn.
The next republican needs to double down on personal liberty, in reaction to an inevitable collectivist turn.
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Ubergeneral3
04/08/20 4:25:55 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted... Biden doesnt enable nazis like Trump does, so shut the fuck up

i also should reply to this. While Nazis are the worst scum on the planet. Their rise back into power and trump being able to have support while being a terrible racist dip**** is the symptom of a disease.

Biden can't cure the disease because he's just another puppet put in place by the oligarcy. We need to fix america and destory the establishment. We need to get money out of politics. We need to control unfettered capitalism.

The sooner there is a chance to do this the better and having trump as terrible as he is, puts us in a good situation for electing a new progressive canidate.

as for the nazis they are people too. That means they will bleed if they are shot, and can have their bones broken. Keep that in mind.

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Dark_SilverX
04/08/20 4:27:55 PM
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A Biden presidency would be tremendous.



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Jeff_Garcia7
04/08/20 4:32:03 PM
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I do worry about a Biden presidency meaning an acceleration and completion of converting the Dem Party into Third Way with a sprinkle of actual Republicans on top.
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Antifar
04/08/20 4:32:04 PM
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I'd much rather organize against Biden than against Trump.
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Ubergeneral3
04/08/20 4:33:50 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
It's insane to think that in order to avoid a monster in office we have to elect said monster.

Also, I'm sure whoever the GOP digs up in the next election will be much more palatable to both republicans and democrats.
It's simple really. If Democrafts proove they can win by ignoring the far left progressives. It will mean that they never have to take us seriously. We will always be on the fringes on american society with no voice. Democrafts need to understand. Go left or lose elections.

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Tmaster148
04/08/20 4:35:01 PM
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Let's just keep an Authoritarian in charge to please children. What a great idea.

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Broseph_Stalin
04/08/20 4:36:00 PM
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god damn do bernie supporters love trump
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