Current Events > Enlightened centrist Joe Rogan says he'll back Trump over Biden

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Doom_Art posted...

god damn i'm pretty damn progressive

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why yes, there are republicans that like Bernie Sanders and would probably vote for him.

what irks me is that this is somehow sold as a negative for Bernie Sanders.

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Deadpool_18 posted...

Several doctors have weighed in on both

None that should have their license, if that's the case lol.

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reminder that Doom_Art was against a progressive bill to protect children from gambling because republicans voted for it
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Doom_Art posted...

god damn i'm pretty damn progressive but yall are fucking bitter

I'm sick of voting for people who have nothing but contempt for me. I'm sick of voting for the architects of our decline. If you can stomach it, then go for it, I'm not stopping you.

averagejoel posted...

why yes, there are republicans that like Bernie Sanders and would probably vote for him.

what irks me is that this is somehow sold as a negative for Bernie Sanders.

Moderates think they can do this on their own, yet at the same time blame everyone else when they lose.
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What does rogan even want to do other than smoke weed and talk about mma?

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LightningAce11 posted...

What does rogan even want to do other than smoke weed and talk about mma?

Hes just a fair-headed dude who likes to learn and gives people a chance to argue their side while not compromising on (very sensible) personal values. People who actually listen to his podcast can tell you he doesnt endorse bullshit when his guests try to prompt it.

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Also I love when my favourite comedy people go on his show. Tom Segura, Bill Burr, Jim Norton, Joey Diaz, Bert Kreischer, Big Jay Oakerson, Legion of Skanks, Tim Dillon, Mark Normand, etc.

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Such a shame that a big Tulsi supporter has such a narrow minded view. Tulsi is as anti corporate DNC shill as they come and she realizes Biden is a far better choice than the shit we have now.

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Bestoffuture posted...

Such a shame that a big Tulsi supporter has such a narrow minded view. Tulsi is as anti corporate DNC shill as they come and she realizes Biden is a far better choice than the shit we have now.

actually the more realistic scenario is the DNC mafia threatened her family after she refused to back down

if you've seen her interviews since she dropped out she's been completely lifeless and has parroted the same shit over and over. they got to her, just like they got to Yang
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tommybel89 posted...

Also I love when my favourite comedy people go on his show. Tom Segura, Bill Burr, Jim Norton, Joey Diaz, Bert Kreischer, Big Jay Oakerson, Legion of Skanks, Tim Dillon, Mark Normand, etc.

Bert Kreischers laugh makes me want to end it all. There is zero reason for him to laugh like that. He has to know how annoying it is.

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He should just wear a red hat already and stop lying to himself.

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creativerealms posted...

He should just wear a red hat already and stop lying to himself.

but he supports sanders and progressive politics

im not sure any trump supporter wants that
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645AR posted...

actually the more realistic scenario is the DNC mafia threatened her family after she refused to back down

lol
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645AR posted...

if trump wins we get two new candidates in 2024, one of them potentially being a progressive. if biden wins we get an establishment dem in 2024 and a republican. if that candidate loses we potentially have to wait for 2028-2032 depending how likable the republican winner is nationally

i don't see any other option. we need a progressive in the white house before 2025. period.

And you'll never get one with that kinda gen z attitude
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645AR posted...

actually the more realistic scenario is the DNC mafia threatened her family after she refused to back down

Put the tin foil away
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This just proves how fucking stupid he is.

How can you support Bernie Sanders and honestly believe Trump would be a better pick than Biden.

Revocation68 posted...

This just proves how fucking stupid he is.

How can you support Bernie Sanders and honestly believe Trump would be a better pick than Biden.

Because your immature and shallow thinking makes believe that you're fucking with the system, the powers that be, with those two choices.

"Anti-establishment"

And that's the optimistic take.

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COVxy posted...

Because your immature and shallow thinking makes believe that you're fucking with the system, the powers that be, with those two choices.

"Anti-establishment"

And that's the optimistic take.

Well that all goes out the window when you see how terrible Trump is so the point is void.

MattcheteGuy posted...

And you'll never get one with that kinda gen z attitude

you will never get what you want if you vote blue no matter who with that boomer attitude
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People who hate on Rogan should just be labeled extremists.

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Deadpool_18 posted...

People who hate on Rogan should just be labeled extremists.

You're silly.

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COVxy posted...

You're silly.

I really appreciate his levelheaded approach to a lot of issues

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I agree, not only because of Biden specifically, but I think the DNC needs to burn down and reconsolidate. 'The left', formerly where the blue collar working class hung their hat, where the interest of simply supporting oneself and their families was the priority, has become a pejorative in those same demographics. If the DNC can rework their priorities and cut the fat of identity, immigrant priority, the sympathies to socialism etc aka the topics forklift driver Jim and his 3 mouths to feed haven't the slightest concern in, it'll be far better in the long term.

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CruorComa posted...

If the DNC can rework their priorities and cut the fat of identity, immigrant priority, the sympathies to socialism etc aka the topics forklift driver Jim and his 3 mouths to feed haven't the slightest concern in, it'll be far better in the long term

This is a bad take, my dude. The working class is disproportionately black and Hispanic.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

I really appreciate his levelheaded approach to a lot of issues

Why would disliking him make you an "extremist"

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Antifar posted...

This is a bad take, my dude. The working class is disproportionately black and Hispanic.

I really don't think so bro.

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"I support progressive policies, which is why I'm A-okay with keeping the fascist moron in charge, because Americans will DEFINITELY elect more progressives afterwards!"

CruorComa posted...

I really don't think so bro.

I mean, there are statistics on this stuff.
https://www.cbsnews.com/media/5-traits-of-americas-working-class/

The share of working-class Americans employed in factories and industry jobs has been declining since 1960, when it peaked at 37 percent, according to the Center for American Progress. Today, about three-quarters of this group are employed in service jobs, such as retail, food and hospitality.

Service jobs like retail work typically pay less than industrial work and offer few routes for advancement, a study from the left-leaning advocacy group Fair Workweek Initiative found earlier this year. Only 8 percent of retail employees have what's considered a "good" job, meaning it pays at least $15 an hour and includes benefits.

The working class is almost evenly divided between male and female workers. That represents a major shift since 1960, when the working class was only one-third female.

Nevertheless, the share of working-class women is falling slightly, due to the increased college enrollment of women, which pushes them into white-collar jobs.

Working class women are also increasingly the chief breadwinners at home, with about one out of five high-school educated women now earning more than their husbands, according to the Pew Research Center. Another one-third of working class women earn the same as their husbands.

America's working class population is growing more diverse, thanks to the country's changing demographics as well as the greater likelihood that white students will pursue a college degree than their black or Hispanic cohort, according to the Center for American Progress.

The share of white Americans in the working class now stands at about 59 percent, down from 88 percent in the early 1940s. Black adults now account for about 14 percent of the working class, while Hispanics are about 21 percent of the group.

The switch to "majority-minority" may come in just a few years for the youngest group of workers, according to EPI.

"The age cohort projected to make the earliest transition to majority-minority is the one that includes workers age 25 to 34," wrote EPI's Wilson. "These are today's 18- to 27-year-olds, and for them, the projected transition year is 2021."

Issues of identity are working class issues.
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Anteaterking posted...

Why would disliking him make you an "extremist"

Hes very fair to both sides. If you dont like his views, cool. But you cant make him out as a vIllain.

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ThanksUglyGod posted...

"I support progressive policies, which is why I'm A-okay with preventing them from gaining power in the democratic party because I'll vote whatever moron they tell me to vote for, because my vote will DEFINITELY help elect more progressives afterwards!"

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Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Thats how I view accepting Joe Rogans support. Hes shown many times that he can be quite generous and helpful for advancing his friends careers, for example. But his social and political views are all over the place, to the point where youre not quite sure what he will promote, as time goes on. It makes for interesting podcasts, at the very least.

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Antifar posted...

I mean, there are statistics on this stuff.
https://www.cbsnews.com/media/5-traits-of-americas-working-class/

Issues of identity are working class issues.

Granted, I just think when you prioritise the ethnic identity, instead of the wider class itself, it doesn't bode well. You get a neglected demographic that seeks only to get theirs for them and their own.

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Thats how I view accepting Joe Rogans support. Hes shown many times that he can be quite generous and helpful for advancing his friends careers, for example. But his social and political views are all over the place, to the point where youre not quite sure what he will promote, as time goes on. It makes for interesting podcasts, at the very least.

actually his views have remained pretty consistent

i know that when you see a nonpartisan interviewer your first response is to label him a flip flopper or catering to the side you don't like, but that's only because whatever news media you get your opinions from was created to dictate and divide individual thought

you see people used to just interview people without shitting out their opinions. id imagine you dont remember when that was a thing
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lets be honest here...I think a lot of people might not wanna come out and say it but people just dont want Biden because he was the one whos supposed to represent the left, and change, and the people, etc. But hes just a republican masquerading as a leftist. He has no positions of his OWN, Its all a script given to him by his party. He has no passion. He doesnt stand for anything. And it if he gets 8 years, that could be worse than 4 from Trump followed immediately by an actual progressive.

He took the space of a potential progressive so that he could hinder progress for 8 years, to help rich people. Its bad enough that we have Trump, but if republicans are gonna keep putting up insane presidential candidates then l democrats better be able to put up someone whos actually viable or theres no hope.

It really doesnt matter if Biden has cognitive decline or not.

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8-bit_Biceps posted...

But hes just a republican masquerading as a leftist

He is neither a Republican nor making any attempt to masquerade as a leftist.

8-bit_Biceps posted...

He has no positions of his OWN, Its all a script given to him by his party.

He has 50 years worth of positions. He's not exactly running on them, choosing to focus on the singular matter of ousting Trump, but he has positions.
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https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235231527191093250

Yall know Bloomberg would be on the Trump train if Bernie was leading right now lmao
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Talk2DaHand posted...

He's also much more incoherent than Trump, and that's a tall order.

Actually, can we circle back to this. Trump going off the cuff is incoherent, he does decently with a prepared speech. Biden is incoherent with his speech fully prepared for him.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235231527191093250

Yall know Bloomberg would be on the Trump train if Bernie was leading right now lmao

No. I really feel very confident that even as shit as Bloomberg is, he would not back Trump over Bernie

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Crazyman93 posted...

Trump going off the cuff is incoherent, he does decently with a prepared speech. Biden is incoherent with his speech fully prepared for him.

I mean, so is Trump
https://www.salon.com/2020/03/12/officials-walk-back-numerous-inaccurate-claims-made-by-trump-during-bungled-coronavirus-address/
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235231527191093250

Yall know Bloomberg would be on the Trump train if Bernie was leading right now lmao

No. I really feel very confident that even as shit as Bloomberg is, he would not back Trump over Bernie

Bush era Republican
Took back what he said about financially supporting the dem nominee like 72 hours after he said it
Admitted that he was only in the race to prevent Bernie from winning

Dunno man, at the very least he'd secretly vote for Trump.
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Just as an aside, and I hesitate to post this for fear of being seen as justifying the Bernie-Trump voter. There's no good reason to vote for Trump.

Now, a common critique of the sort of person who supports Sanders and then votes Trump is that they don't care about policy. This is true, but it's hardly unique to them. Voters base their decisions on all sorts of things that have nothing to do with what a candidate wants to actually do as president. Exit polls consistently found Democrats prioritizing perceived electability over whether they agreed with a candidate on issues, for example

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1235000307072897024?s=19
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It's important to note that those poll results don't necessarily support that conclusion.

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Antifar posted...

Voters base their decisions on all sorts of things that have nothing to do with what a candidate wants to actually do as president.

20 years ago America voted in a guy who doesn't drink because he looked like a chill dude to have a beer with.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

20 years ago America voted in a guy who doesn't drink because he looked like a chill dude to have a beer with.

That's right.
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645AR posted...

ThanksUglyGod posted...
"I support progressive policies, which is why I fully support them in primaries. But if they lose? HA! GOOD LUCK, Y'ALL!"

It's hilarious that anyone who back Bernie could then turn around and vote Trump. Their positions are even more fucking far apart than Bernie and Biden.

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I read somewhere that the DNC would rather lose with Biden than win with Bernie. Can someone clarify why?
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645AR posted...

actually his views have remained pretty consistent

Nah, I dont think so, but Im still a fan who has been watching Rogans podcasts, fight commentary and standup since almost the beginning.

Remember when Rogan was super into conspiracies, for example, and was adamant about NASA faking the moon landing? Or how about when he would constantly shit on Kim Kardashian for basically being a rich airhead (he even included a lengthy bit about her and the family in one of his comedy specials), but then later said he wouldnt anymore because Kardashian helps incarcerated convicts? What about his obsession with Ronda Rousey and him saying, with all seriousness, that she could beat male pro fighters? He absolutely does not think that anymore and admits he got caught up in the hype. Almost as bad was when he used to think marijuana was for losers, but then he started smoking late in life and has done a 180 towards being one of weeds most vocal supporters.

Those are just off the top of my head, and consider that I am not saying its a bad thing that Rogan would change his mind. What I am saying is that it does not surprise me that he would say or do something that seems contradictory to whatever he supported in the past. Bernie to Trump, instead of Biden? Seems wacky, but Im not surprised. To be fair, Rogan has been very consistent about supporting freedom of speech and promoting martial arts.

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