Current Events > Coronavirus 14: Extended Edition

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https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1245471111648890884

https://twitter.com/people/status/1245473970671038467


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Wearing a mask all day at work fucking sucks. My face is itchy and sweaty and the strings are making my ears sore

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DundiesAward posted...

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1245471111648890884

For reference, average deaths per day in NYC was 148 as of 2015, the last year for which data is available.
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538 today in the UK.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFftsn6izic

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-concealed-extent-virus-outbreak-151550902.html

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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1245123712011112454

That is sad. I guess she didn't get the PPE in time.

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DundiesAward posted...

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https://twitter.com/people/status/1245473970671038467

(CDC reviewing guidelines for everyone wearing a mask)

I think health care professionals must be provided PPE (almost posted PvE) before CDC talks about everyone wearing them.

thronedfire2 posted...

Wearing a mask all day at work fucking sucks. My face is itchy and sweaty and the strings are making my ears sore

TY for the insight.

Antifar posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/health/hospitals-coronavirus-face-masks.html

they manipulated 60 yo asthmatic , hypertensive MD to wear surgical mask instead f respirator in the hall by suspending him and reinstating him. The manipulation makes me angrier than the suspending.

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Over 1,000 usa deaths today

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I spent 24 of the last 36 hours in my ER.
Its an absolute nightmare.
I personally intubated 3 patients in under an hour
We have over 400 patients admitted with coronavirus - 82 of them on ventilators.

To put things into perspective, My ER which is built to have about 80-100 patients had 172 people admitted with covid-19 - crammed into spots, corners and crevices. And all of our ICU and step-down units together can usually handle 50 patients. We are managing ventilators in hallways.

In 22 years of service I have never seen the staff look this tired - physically and emotionally drained. At least twice an hour we hear the call overhead that somebody upstairs is in cardiac arrest. This acutely exacerbates our distress. People that we were caring for are dead 12 hours later.

30 year olds, 50 year olds, 70 year olds. No one is spared.

We are at the breaking point.
We are out of space in our hospital
We are out of space in our emergency room

I was caring for a woman with an oxygen level at 64% and I had to have her sitting in a chair for an hour until I could find a stretcher.
Multiple doctors in the hospital are out sick with the virus.

https://twitter.com/drdanchoi/status/1245420065404616704


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"By the end of day, roughly 280 million masks from warehouses around the US had been purchased by foreign buyers and were earmarked 2 leave the country, according to the broker & that was in 1 day."

https://twitter.com/andreafeigl1/status/1245406881419493376

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https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/31/fountains-of-wayne-stacys-mom-adam-schlesinger-hospitalized-coronavirus/
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So we will soon be getting 30k+ confirmed cases a day huh?

Awesome posted...

Over 1,000 usa deaths today

over 500 just in New York :(

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2020/03/30/i-spent-a-day-in-the-coronavirus -driven-feeding-frenzy-of-n95-mask-sellers-and-buyers-and-this-is-what-i-learned/

Makes you wonder, why can't we just go to our 3M supplier and force sales and distribution to our own Hospitals?

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An employees at an amazon warehouse in the Portland area tested positive today. Those that had close contact with the person have been notified and will have to self quarantine for 2 weeks but will get paid.

Sister n law works there but not sure if she was one of the people notified. I sent her a story a few days ago about other Amazon warehouses having the same issue but she brushed it off.

I keep flirting with the idea of applying at Amazon but then s*** like this happens.

Oh, 48 new cases (735 in total and down from 98 new cases yesterday) and 1 death reported in Oregon today. We're not getting it as bad as Washington. Social distancing seems to be working.

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Someone in my office's brother apparently is showing symptoms and lives in her apartment. She's off for at least the next week. It hasn't been told through official channels but people that know her said that's what's going on. The official story is she's off for "personal reasons"

If true, and management is keeping it quiet to keep business going, I'm gonna be fucking livid.

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

Someone in my office's brother apparently is showing symptoms and lives in her apartment. She's off for at least the next week. It hasn't been told through official channels but people that know her said that's what's going on. The official story is she's off for "personal reasons"

If true, and management is keeping it quiet to keep business going, I'm gonna be fucking livid.

Are they at least going to do a deep clean of your office? Or it just a wait until it confirmed then clean up?

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So, um, when we reach the 19th topic...
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Sephiroth C Ryu posted...

So, um, when we reach the 19th topic...
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i might not be here when we do

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Lol at Doom grilling Muay when he was downplaying and spitting whst became Trump rhetoric during that same time.



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DundiesAward posted...

Are they at least going to do a deep clean of your office? Or it just a wait until it confirmed then clean up?

They've been having us deep clean shit daily for like three weeks now so they'll probably wait for it to be confirmed then do shit about it.

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

Someone in my office's brother apparently is showing symptoms and lives in her apartment.

someone was in the post office was coughing pretty bad. started to make me rightfully paranoid (wasn't sure if he smokes) but i didn't feel like being case #4 in clatsop county.

should stock up on more drinks in case i do get sick (powerades help in preventing dehydration).
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It's over boys. I've come down with fever and I had flu a month ago so it's probably not that.

I don't want another swab jammed into my brain ;_;
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Does anyone know if the virus can travel through the vents in a home? Let's say one person is self isolating in their room but everyone is breathing in the same air arent they?

21WIVES_CHILL posted...

Does anyone know if the virus can travel through the vents in a home? Let's say one person is self isolating in their room but everyone is breathing in the same air arent they?

If the central air is running it can. There was a study posted a few weeks ago about this. Ill see if I can find it..

Edit: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/06/air-conditioning-systems-could-spread-coronavirus-research-shows/

Tired-Insomniac posted...

Someone in my office's brother apparently is showing symptoms and lives in her apartment. She's off for at least the next week. It hasn't been told through official channels but people that know her said that's what's going on. The official story is she's off for "personal reasons"

If true, and management is keeping it quiet to keep business going, I'm gonna be fucking livid.

My supervisor a few days ago announced that a few workers were in quarantine because theyve traveled to one of the infected countries and that they'll be returning to work tomorrow. If they told us this information this late, chances are they wont say whether kr nkt they were tested positive for the virus.

21WIVES_CHILL posted...

they'll be returning to work tomorrow

i would call in sick. there's a risk if they're asymptomatic (they can still infect).
infected countries is a bad omen.
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Theft and unrest spreads to southern Italy

https://youtu.be/NsNWbfatRwg

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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1245457959829864448
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Today. I told a 28 year old that he needs intubation.
He was scared.
Couldnt breathe.
I told the wife of a 47 year old that he is dying over FaceTime.
I bronched a #COVID19 patient who mucous plugged.
It saved his life. Risked mine.

https://twitter.com/AnnaPodolanczuk/status/1244069791268319234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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These medical tweets are heart-breaking.

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solosnake posted...

I told the wife of a 47 year old that he is dying over FaceTime

damn. i would think that would be the absolute worse thing a care provider has to deal with other than the possibility of getting sick (which is 1# on the list).

oregon cases 672 and 18 deaths yesterday
today: 717 and 19 deaths.
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Did you know: you can just post any sort of lie online

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1245180341050015747
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Imagine dying because your mucus has plugged your airways, I mean the death would be registered as suffocation but you died because your mucus plugged your airways...

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Another death in Nebraska...5 total

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https://twitter.com/MasksForDocs/status/1244192591500861440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


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Spoke to @ABC; supplies of ventilator drugs are bad in NYC. If they are an indication of things to come for other cities, ventilators might not be the rate-limiting factor.

https://twitter.com/mganio_ASHP/status/1245427702598897674

This is really bad, soon they wont even be able to intubate patients because of lack of drugs

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The supply of medications we use when putting patients on life support is dangerously low. All across the country. We need immediate federal action to get us those meds!

https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1245514223423234050

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

They knew we were fucked if they weren't prepared, still never prepared.

Failure of a government.

Its like someone set up a pandemic team in case a pandemic hits and someone else just wanted to undo everything the first person did for reasons.

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Here is some "good news". Take it how you want it.....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-scientists-seeking-potential-covid-081537897.html

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/anthony-fauci-security-detail/index.html

Wtf why would Fauci be getting death threats he's like the nicest guy ever

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/anthony-fauci-security-detail/index.html

Wtf why would Fauci be getting death threats he's like the nicest guy ever

Dare to disagree with Trump, and the cult turns on you

Takuya Lee posted...

They issued a order to close all non essential businesses about 2 weeks ago. The stay at home order is new.

Reading an interview Sisolak did after the new order he admits that they don't have the resources to actually enforce the order and aren't going to try. They have gone after businesses that aren't essential that are still open though.

We have a few car washes in my town that are still open, most of them claim they do work on cars too which makes them essential.
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https://youtu.be/6439aOtzEWs

Imagine being in India

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We will run out of rescue inhalers at work tomorrow and there are like none to order.

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https://twitter.com/MasksForDocs/status/1245579293289111557

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Taxpayers paid $13 million, but there is not a single Trilogy Evo Universal ventilator developed with government funds in the U.S. stockpile. Meanwhile, its owner Royal Philips N.V. has sold higher-priced versions to clients around the world.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1245602798265225217

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Just spoke to a friend in Ohio. Works at a huge hospital system.
Today given one N95 to reuse for the foreseeable future.
One surgical mask a shift.
Can only wear masks for confirmed #coronavirus patients.
This is how healthcare workers get infected.
This is how we lose.

https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1245553989715931136

In the 27 mins since posting this, Ive received dozens of messages from healthcare workers all over the country. AZ, CA, LA, MI, TX... Exact same situation.
Masks are rationed.
Cant speak up.
Not good for hospital optics.
OUR FRONLTINE PROVIDERS WILL DIE. WE NEED PPE!

https://twitter.com/Craig_A_Spencer/status/1245561483875975174

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Nurses and doctors falling ill and dying due to PPE shortages makes me worry that hospitals might collapse.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490704-trump-announces-enhanced-counternarcotics-operation-at-coronavirus

As you know from the maps and from the many posts about the connection between tourism and covid-19, Mexico has a covid-19 problem. All the same a military action now against the drug cartels is IMO as threatening to the fight against the USA pandemic as to the fight against the Mexican pandemic.

Lots of people start waving the flag when our military is beating butts. It is a distraction from the real problems our nation is facing.

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Edit now I feel dumb for only thinking of this now but isn't this a military action and doesn't congress have to declare war first?

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https://www.propublica.org/article/ taxpayers-paid-millions-to-design-a-low-cost-ventilator-for-a- pandemic-instead-the-company-is-selling-versions-of-it-overseas-

However, in a subsequent statement, the HHS spokeswoman said Philips is only required to deliver the ventilators as they are completed. Klink, the company spokesman, said Philips was only committed to meeting the original contract deadline of 10,000 ventilators by September 2022.

So this BARDA office from the HHS that got established in 2006, who is responsible for the Ventilators acquisition, got swindled!

It made a contract with Newport Medical Instruments Inc for $6.4 million contract in September 2010, specifying that the money would be doled out incrementally as the company met various milestones.

But in May 2012, Newport was purchased by a larger Irish medical device company, Covidien, for $108 million. Covidien quickly downsized and asked Rick Crawford, Newports former head of research and development and the lead designer of the BARDA ventilator, to finish up the project without any staff assigned to him. Crawford said he took a job with another company.

I dont know how you finish a project when nobody reports to you, he recalled thinking.
A former BARDA official who worked on the project said that Covidien began raising issue after issue and demanded more money. BARDA agreed, eventually tacking on almost $2 million more to the price tag, records show. Even so, Covidien abandoned the project.

So Covidien, this Irish Medical Device Company took the $2 million and gave up on the project.

A spokesman for the still-larger firm that acquired Covidien in 2015, Medtronic, said that the prototype ventilator created by Newport Medical would not have been able to meet the specifications required by the government, nor at the price required. In a statement responding to a story in The New York Times, Medtronic said it left the federal government with all the designs and equipment created in the project.
Several former BARDA officials said such outcomes come with their territory. Like big pharmaceutical companies, they had to take chances, especially in the development of vaccines.

What utter defeatism / BullShit, when they chose the wrong company, wasted tax payer dollars, and didn't get the results, or any results.

There are going to be risks like that when you partner with businesses, said one former senior BARDA official, who, like others, asked for anonymity because she was not authorized to speak for the agency. Its a problem that we at BARDA had encountered before, where a company changed hands and changed priorities.

In March 2016, less than two years after signing its ventilator contract with BARDA, Philips Respironics agreed to pay $34.8 million to settle a Justice Department lawsuit under the False Claims Act and the Anti-Kickback Statute. Justice lawyers accused the manufacturer of effectively paying kickbacks to medical suppliers to buy its masks for sleep apnea. The company also agreed to abide by a five-year Corporate Integrity Agreement with HHS inspector general that imposed a series of oversight measures on the companys operations.

So there's corruption within Philips Respironics now. Great .... -_-

With BARDAs continuing support, Philips finally won FDA approval for the Trilogy Evo Universal ventilator in July 2019. Klink, the Philips spokesman, said the $13.8 million from HHS covered only a portion of the design and development costs for the ventilator and that the company invested more.
Rubinson, now the chief medical officer of Morristown Medical Center in Morristown, New Jersey, praised the BARDA effort as essential, adding that if 10,000 ventilators seems like a small number in the COVID-19 crisis, it had to be understood in the context of government officials typical unwillingness to buy equipment it might only need in an emergency.
They could have bought a million ventilators, he said. And then you would be writing about the boondoggle of all these devices that never got used.
Today, the governments failure to obtain the Trilogy Evo Universal is seen by some experts as the real game changer.
Even if a few months ago we had taken dramatic action to develop these kinds of ventilators, it would have been better, said Hick, the emergency medicine specialist in Minnesota. If I had a ventilator that cost $4,000 rather than $16,000, Id be in better shape. We can buy a lot more of them.

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