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ReggieBush09
03/25/20 9:33:49 PM
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People are dieing everyday now in this country.

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TheTrueAmerican
03/25/20 9:38:24 PM
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They won't let him.

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eston
03/25/20 9:39:41 PM
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Lost_All_Senses
03/25/20 9:40:22 PM
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eston posted...
He's killing as many people as he can, get off his back

Lol

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Antifar
03/25/20 9:40:37 PM
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He likes it. He thinks it's good.
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Orlando_Jordan
03/25/20 9:43:21 PM
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Why won't one man stop Coronavirus dead in its tracks?

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Strider102
03/25/20 9:44:40 PM
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Because it's a liberal hoax, duh.

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_BIueMonk
03/25/20 9:44:58 PM
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he probably thinks the "chinese virus" only kills chinese people so thats fine in his eyes.

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Orlando_Jordan
03/25/20 9:51:14 PM
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_BIueMonk posted...
he probably thinks the "chinese virus" only kills chinese people so thats fine in his eyes.
No, he doesn't.

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BruceWayneJr
03/25/20 10:13:38 PM
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Alpha males take care of themselves, bro. This is a libertarian trial run.

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Resaix
03/25/20 10:14:53 PM
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Trump has made it abundantly clear that his bank account and reelection are more important than American lives
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TimeLady0
03/25/20 10:15:43 PM
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What exactly is he expected to do? Despite what the Left would have you believe, POTUS doesn't have the powers of a dictator. The reactions to the Chinese coronavirus are entirely in the hands of the governors of the States, as Constitutionally intended. Masks can't appear out of thin air, and hospitals - which are private corporations, by and large - didn't expect severe respiratory patients of this magnitude.

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kayoticdreamz
03/25/20 10:16:57 PM
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TimeLady0 posted...
What exactly is he expected to do? Despite what the Left would have you believe, POTUS doesn't have the powers of a dictator. The reactions to the Chinese coronavirus are entirely in the hands of the governors of the States, as Constitutionally intended. Masks can't appear out of thin air, and hospitals - which are private corporations, by and large - didn't expect severe respiratory patients of this magnitude.
get this reasonable reply out of here.

this is CE, we bash Trump here no matter what he does damnit.
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meralonne
03/25/20 10:18:12 PM
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TimeLady0 posted...
What exactly is he expected to do? Despite what the Left would have you believe, POTUS doesn't have the powers of a dictator. The reactions to the Chinese coronavirus are entirely in the hands of the governors of the States, as Constitutionally intended. Masks can't appear out of thin air, and hospitals - which are private corporations, by and large - didn't expect severe respiratory patients of this magnitude.
The President has emergency powers that could at least partially remedy the shortages of medical supplies. But we cant step on the toes of corporations, now, can we?


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MarvAlbert
03/25/20 10:19:29 PM
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meralonne posted...
The President has emergency powers that could at least partially remedy the shortages of medical supplies. But we cant step on the toes of corporations, now, can we?
And he's begun using these acts...

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meralonne
03/25/20 10:20:44 PM
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MarvAlbert posted...
And he's begun using these acts...

When? Because Ive seen an awful lot of news to the contrary. Must be fake, right?

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TimeLady0
03/25/20 10:21:21 PM
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MarvAlbert posted...
And he's begun using these acts...

Yeah, this. From the statistics I've read the factories that Ford and 3M are refitting are expected to only be able to put out about 5000 masks a MONTH (not face masks, something else). We could have had more if it hadn't been a concentrated effort by capital to move all their factories to China, which Trump has very publicly decried.


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Resaix
03/25/20 10:21:42 PM
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MarvAlbert posted...
And he's begun using these acts...
He talks about using them. Never actually started the process. Stop spreading fake news
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Questionmarktarius
03/25/20 10:22:07 PM
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kayoticdreamz
03/25/20 10:22:34 PM
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meralonne posted...
When? Because Ive seen an awful lot of news to the contrary. Must be fake, right?
try watching a non-liberal news source for once.
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meralonne
03/25/20 10:23:14 PM
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Whos alt is TimeLady? lol

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meralonne
03/25/20 10:24:02 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
try watching a non-liberal news source for once.

I dont watch CNN or MSNBC, theyre as biased as Fox.Try again.

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Resaix
03/25/20 10:25:08 PM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
try watching a non-liberal news source for once.
Try reading an actual source rather than stuff regurgitated from Dear Leader

He has not done anything regarding using his emergency powers for manufacturing equipment
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Tmaster148
03/25/20 10:25:32 PM
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Doing something would be admitting there's a problem which would hurt the economy. So he's going to avoid doing as much as he can to prevent the economy from falling. It's why he's insisting he can open the US back up by Easter.

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Numenor
03/25/20 10:26:30 PM
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eston posted...
He's killing as many people as he can, get off his back

kayoticdreamz posted...
try watching a non-liberal news source for once.

This is CE. Like reddit, it is a liberal echo chamber where dissenting views are blocked.

It's pretty sad actually. CE back in the 2003-2006 time was capable of civil debates and discourse between opposing views.

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butthole666
03/25/20 10:29:03 PM
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Oh look the new accounts and recently-revived old accounts are out

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Complete_Idi0t
03/25/20 10:29:15 PM
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How did Trump being a moron become a partisan issue
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meralonne
03/25/20 10:31:03 PM
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Numenor posted...
This is CE. Like reddit, it is a liberal echo chamber where dissenting views are blocked.

Listen here, buddy. Liberals get the First Amendment, Conservatives get the Second. Stay in your lane!


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TimeLady0
03/25/20 10:31:35 PM
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Numenor posted...
It's pretty sad actually. CE back in the 2003-2006 time was capable of civil debates and discourse between opposing views.

Lol no it wasn't

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Questionmarktarius
03/25/20 10:31:56 PM
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meralonne posted...
Liberals get the First Amendment, Conservatives get the Second.
...who gets the Third?
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Numenor
03/25/20 10:32:04 PM
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Resaix posted...
Try reading an actual source rather than stuff regurgitated from Dear Leader

He has not done anything regarding using his emergency powers for manufacturing equipment

Do you work in manufacturing? I do.

You cannot instantly flip a switch to change an entire production line overnight. My company is bidding on making parts for the GM ventilators. Even assuming we got the contract tomorrow, it would still take a month or more before parts would start being shipped in any quantity.

Parts have to be designed. CNC programs written. Tooling ordered/made if not in inventory. Materials ordered and delivered.

It takes time. No matter how much you want, there is a fundamental limit as to how fast shifts of this magnitude can happen.

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kayoticdreamz
03/25/20 10:33:39 PM
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Resaix posted...
Try reading an actual source rather than stuff regurgitated from Dear Leader

He has not done anything regarding using his emergency powers for manufacturing equipment
because he can't? Politicians, long before Trump became president, passed laws that made it cheaper to outsource everything to China, companies then followed suit. Granted the companies Trump owned may be guilty of that, but he's hardly the only one here. but as president, and as a politician he didn't pass these laws.

And in case you are unaware China decided to say "fuck everyone else, we need the medical supplies"

so tell me how Trump is supposed to force companies, with manufacturing based in China, to produce supplies? Even supposing he has the executive authority to do that?

This is one of the many reasons America needs to stop importing more people, and needs to bring back manufacturing jobs here which require fixing the ridiculous legal loop holes, and wage laws that a giant mess in this country which outsourcing jobs to china and illegals who hop the border, are just making the mess worse, but the media decides to blast Trump as the bad guy for anything he does.

Really do you guys honestly expect Trump to force China's hand here? Because I'm pretty sure America just learned the hard way, why we should never have outsourced all of our manufacturing.
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kayoticdreamz
03/25/20 10:33:56 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
...who gets the Third?
the tories obviously
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Numenor
03/25/20 10:34:37 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Oh look the new accounts and recently-revived old accounts are out

Pfft, more that until recently CE hasn't held any interest for me. I am mostly on game boards, and don't post much even there.

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Dark_SilverX
03/25/20 10:36:35 PM
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TheTrueAmerican posted...
They won't let him.
This. He's trying to get Americans back to work.

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meralonne
03/25/20 10:40:44 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
This. He's trying to get Americans back to work.
Because he doesnt give a fuck if some of those Americans die as long as the Dow goes back up so he can get re-elected.

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Numenor
03/25/20 10:44:30 PM
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meralonne posted...
Because he doesnt give a fuck if some of those Americans die as long as the Dow goes back up so he can get re-elected.

Ok, so in your view then if it saves 1 life from COVID, the economy of the US should remain shut down until no more cases are found?

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meralonne
03/25/20 10:48:42 PM
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Numenor posted...
Ok, so in your view then if it saves 1 life from COVID, the economy of the US should remain shut down until no more cases are found?

Okay, so in your view everything will be hunky-dory by Easter? Or maybe we should just pretend that everythings cool, stick our fingers in our ears, scream la-la-la really loudly and pray the Covid away?

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Numenor
03/25/20 10:55:55 PM
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meralonne posted...
Okay, so in your view everything will be hunky-dory by Easter? Or maybe we should just pretend that everythings cool, stick our fingers in our ears, scream la-la-la really loudly and pray the Covid away?

I never said it was. I was asking you what your views were.

So what are they? At what number of deaths is it ok, in your opinion, to reopen the economy? 1, 10, 100? How many?

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meralonne
03/25/20 10:59:26 PM
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Numenor posted...
So what are they? At what number of deaths is it ok, in your opinion, to reopen the economy? 1, 10, 100? How many?

And Im asking you, how many American lives are you willing to sacrifice so that the Dow looks good again?

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Strider102
03/25/20 11:00:24 PM
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Honestly, there shouldn't have been any deaths from it. Unfortunately we're way past that now.

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Resaix
03/25/20 11:01:39 PM
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meralonne posted...
And Im asking you, how many American lives are you willing to sacrifice so that the Dow looks good again?
He'd probably be OK with millions. So long as they weren't him or people close to him. But he seems more than willing to sacrifice others at the altar of the market
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Numenor
03/25/20 11:12:50 PM
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meralonne posted...
And Im asking you, how many American lives are you willing to sacrifice so that the Dow looks good again?

I don't care about the DOW too much. I am far more concerned with the long term affects that turning off a $20T/yr economy will have. How many buisnesses will permanently close? How many people will lose their jobs? How many people will lose their house, car, life savings?

We lose tens of thousands to normal diseases each year. Thousands per year in car accidents. Thousands to medical malpractice.

Why are we destroying the economic future of our lives and possibly childrens lives for what at this point is something less deadly than normal life?

I do not have a specific number, but I do have grave concerns over the far reaching consequences these economic decisions have.

That's my answer to you. Now answer my question, how many people are you willing to close the economy over?

Resaix posted...
He'd probably be OK with millions. So long as they weren't him or people close to him. But he seems more than willing to sacrifice others at the altar of the market

Try again.

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Resaix
03/25/20 11:56:04 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
why are you guys arguing with a guy who thinks Nazis were leftists
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Numenor
03/26/20 12:08:39 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
why are you guys arguing with a guy who thinks Nazis were leftists

Socialists, not leftists... if you are going to attempt to insult me at least get the quote right.

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coolboy11
03/26/20 12:14:40 AM
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Numenor posted...
Socialists, not leftists... if you are going to attempt to insult me at least get the quote right.
imagine doubling down on being very wrong lmao

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