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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 4:50:38 PM
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Zidane sucks and annoys the fuck outta me.

I genuinely, unironically prefer TIdus as a protagonist over Zidane.

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Lost_All_Senses
03/11/20 4:51:33 PM
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You mean Squall and FF8 right?

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ocelot51
03/11/20 4:52:25 PM
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It's the worst because nearly every other character is way cooler, even Steiner.
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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 4:53:09 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
You mean Squall and FF8 right?
FF8 is bad for a lot of reasons, Squall's just one of them.

FF9 has a genuinely cool story, interesting characters, decent gameplay, etc.

Zidane is the sole reason that I just can't fully love the game.

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ROBANN_88
03/11/20 4:54:07 PM
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ocelot51 posted...
It's the worst because nearly every other character is way cooler, even Steiner.

except Amarant and Eiko, of course

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DeadBankerDream
03/11/20 4:54:26 PM
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Zidane is a great character with a frustrating womanizer personality quirk that I wish didn't go away, but was greatly diminished in scenes where I'd prefer a little more seriousness.
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Lost_All_Senses
03/11/20 4:54:34 PM
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WafflehouseJK posted...
FF8 is bad for a lot of reasons, Squall's just one of them.

Definitely true.

I always liked Zidane tho. I'm a fan of playful yet serious when they need to be characters.

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 4:54:35 PM
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ocelot51 posted...
It's the worst because nearly every other character is way cooler, even Steiner.
Yep. Vivi and Dagger are some of the best characters in FF history. Steiner is a mess, but even he gets a lot of growth, and when he is being a little bitch, it's kinda entertaining still at least.

Zidane is just obnoxious, but the game doesn't have the self-awareness of him being obnoxious like it does with Steiner.

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I Like Toast
03/11/20 4:55:06 PM
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Ff9 would be great if it was fun.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
03/11/20 4:56:54 PM
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Ooo, soft...
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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 4:58:06 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
except Amarant and Eiko, of course
Amarant is pretty bland, but Eiko is fine.

DeadBankerDream posted...
Zidane is a great character with a frustrating womanizer personality quirk that I wish didn't go away, but was greatly diminished in scenes where I'd prefer a little more seriousness.
The womanizer thing is just super annoying in general, one of my least favorite tropes.

But even out side of that, he's a massive hypocrite throughout the game, thinks he's hot shit when he's just as flawed if not more so than everyone else, and he just really grates on me.

Lost_All_Senses posted...
Definitely true.

I always liked Zidane tho. I'm a fan of playful yet serious when they need to be characters.
I can see that, and typically I like those kind of characters too, but I feel like, at least for me, it just doesn't work out with Zidane.

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Lost_All_Senses
03/11/20 5:00:22 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
Ooo, soft...

Lol. Zidane was someone who actually acted his age at times. It's easy to forget FF is about teenagers half the time, because everyone acts like someone in their later 20s. And the 30 year olds act 50. Zidane was probably the closest thing to reality we'll get. And of course Im not surrounding this around him sexually harassing someone, so don't try it.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/11/20 5:01:31 PM
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AFrench2
03/11/20 5:05:30 PM
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All the characters blow ass. Steiner is my favorite to use in battle, but personality wise he needs to just STFU

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DeadBankerDream
03/11/20 5:06:08 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
All the characters blow ass. Steiner is my favorite to use in battle, but personality wise he needs to just STFU

Why is every single one of your opinions bad?
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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 5:06:45 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
All the characters blow ass. Steiner is my favorite to use in battle, but personality wise he needs to just STFU
Excuse you, Vivi is a gem.

Steiner is annoying, but his annoyance is more played up for laughs, and he actually does get a lot of growth over the course of the game.

Zidane just sucks.

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AFrench2
03/11/20 5:06:47 PM
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What other opinions do you even know me to have? I mean how far down the "I am stalking you" hole are you jumping here?

What an odd thing to say

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Lost_All_Senses
03/11/20 5:06:51 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
All the characters blow ass. Steiner is my favorite to use in battle, but personality wise he needs to just STFU

DeadBankerDream posted...
Why is every single one of your opinions bad?

DeadBankerDream posted...
every

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single

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 5:07:58 PM
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lmao

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AFrench2
03/11/20 5:10:04 PM
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WafflehouseJK posted...
Excuse you, Vivi is a gem.

Steiner is annoying, but his annoyance is more played up for laughs, and he actually does get a lot of growth over the course of the game.

Zidane just sucks.
Excuse YOU but the "Why are people stopping...am I going to stop? Mommy help me" thing for 4 discs is pretty bad.

Steiner is annoying in that he just bitches at Zidane for 4 discs. Even after his character arc, he's still pretty bad. Him getting access to sex via Beatrix makes him less of a douche later in the game though. He needed sex.

Amarant is whatever. He doesn't really talk. Just says like "Well of course it wouldn't be that easy" and "How did I get beaten by you?" to Zidane

Garnett just follows her mother for 2 discs. "She will listen to me!" she says, as fat blue elephant lady destroys another huge city and kills thousands. Ridiculously stupid.

Quina is legit cool. The game takes her away from your party too many times though.

Eiko is whatever...she is gotten kinda later in the game, so I don't mind her. All she does is say "Zidane is so hot" all game. Pretty dumb.

Am I missing anyone??

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DeadBankerDream
03/11/20 5:11:14 PM
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I stand by your window while you sleep and draw hearts in my breath on them, but then wipe it off before you wake.
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sylverlolol
03/11/20 5:12:05 PM
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Nah, Zidane is great. Try not having a bad opinion.

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 5:12:57 PM
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sylverlolol posted...
Nah, Zidane is great. Try not having a bad opinion.
No u. :(

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 5:15:15 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
basically all of FF's main characters suck. they should have stuck with the ensemble cast dynamic of FF6, that seemed to work well.

actually i guess Cecil wasn't so bad. that's about it though.
FF6's ensemble is great, and virtually every character in it is fantastic.

I really don't mind Cloud as a protagonist tbh, and Tidus definitely has his obnoxious moments, but overall I enjoy him.

Buttz in 5 isn't bad either.

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Tyranthraxus
03/11/20 5:18:28 PM
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AFrench2 posted...
Am I missing anyone??

I am disappoint



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Zeeak4444
03/11/20 5:20:11 PM
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Liking Tidus over Zidane.

thats a hot take right there.

Zidane is arguably the best MC in the franchise bar Zack and Ramza.

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yusiko
03/11/20 5:21:16 PM
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freya's opening quote is how being forgotten is worse than death
and now she is one of the most forgotten final fantasy characters
its not really her fault. its the writers
her story just stops halfway through the game leaving her character arc unfinished
it was supposed to be resolved in a sidequest but that side quest got cut

anyway i like final fantasy 8
one of the first erotic fanfics i ever read was a seifer/squall one

hey @WafflehouseJK feel like its been forever since i last saw you :(

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Irony
03/11/20 5:21:19 PM
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Zidane is literally the best protagonist. He's the only nonedgy depressed one besides Titus

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Lost_All_Senses
03/11/20 5:21:39 PM
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WafflehouseJK posted...
Buttz in 5 isn't bad either.

Pics

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Zodd3224
03/11/20 5:22:16 PM
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Irony posted...
Zidane is literally the best protagonist. He's the only nonedgy depressed one besides Titus

Agreed. Zidane and Ramza are the best main FF protags easily.

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 5:23:12 PM
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yusiko posted...
freya's opening quote is how being forgotten is worse than death
and now she is one of the most forgotten final fantasy characters
its not really her fault. its the writers
her story just stops halfway through the game leaving her character arc unfinished
it was supposed to be resolved in a sidequest but that side quest got cut

anyway i like final fantasy 8
one of the first erotic fanfics i ever read was a seifer/squall one

hey WafflehouseJK feel like its been forever since i last saw you :(
I know, it's been a while. :(

Haven't been as active the past year-ish, had a lot going on in life lol. Slowly trying to get shit figured out though.

Also Freya had the potential to be one of the best FF characters, but as you said, her arc just kinda... stops. It's very disappointing.

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yusiko
03/11/20 5:48:29 PM
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dagger is my favorite in that game

dagger
zidane
quina
and freya all have abilities that always do 9999 damage if you put the effort in
and since the final boss of the game only has like 65555 HP this is really overpowered

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CrazyandLazy
03/11/20 5:49:26 PM
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FFIX is the best JRPG ever. Legend of Dragoons is a close second.

Vivi is the best in FFIX.
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Tyranthraxus
03/11/20 5:50:51 PM
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yusiko posted...
dagger is my favorite in that game

dagger
zidane
quina
and freya all have abilities that always do 9999 damage if you put the effort in
and since the final boss of the game only has like 65555 HP this is really overpowered

Doesn't the final boss heal to full?

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The Catgirl Fondler
03/11/20 5:59:31 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
basically all of FF's main characters suck.


Eh, the only ones I found to be truly shitty were Cloud and Squall. (I haven't played 13 or 15 though so I can't comment on Lightning and Noctis.)
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Touch
03/11/20 6:02:01 PM
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Wtf Zidane was cool. Especially after Linkin Park protags Squall and Cloud

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AFrench2
03/11/20 6:03:06 PM
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CrazyandLazy posted...
FFIX is the best JRPG ever. Legend of Dragoons is a close second.

Vivi is the best in FFIX.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 6:10:37 PM
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Touch posted...
Wtf Zidane was cool. Especially after Linkin Park protags Squall and Cloud
I think the idea of having a more light hearted protag was a good one, I just think the execution was poor with Zidane.

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CrazyandLazy
03/11/20 6:11:42 PM
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Touch posted...
Wtf Zidane was cool. Especially after Linkin Park protags Squall and Cloud

so very true.
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garan
03/11/20 6:12:35 PM
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I hated Zidane too. The plot is pretty decent & I really like how the characters were split up & things kept cutting back & forth for the first couple of disks.

I just wish the story focused on Vivi & Freya.
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MeltyAlert
03/11/20 6:13:37 PM
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Zidane is literally one of the best Final Fantasy protagonists because hes not a whiny, emo, or annoying prick. Hes lovable and funny and also a great leader.

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WafflehouseJK
03/11/20 6:19:42 PM
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MeltyAlert posted...
Zidane (...) not a(n) annoying prick.
Gotta disagree with you on that one.

Dude's an ass for like, 80% of the game.

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