Current Events > Wouldn't splitting America in 2 solve all of our problems?

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Ive said it before, but why not have a liberal side and a conservative side, each with their own laws?

That way everyones happy right?
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Because there's liberals who believe in gun ownership, and conservatives who believe in gun restrictions

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Perascamin posted...

Because there's liberals who believe in gun ownership, and conservatives who believe in gun restrictions

They just pick whichever side has more things and/or more important things they like.
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Just the logistics alone of dividing the country in two and moving everyone out of the places they dont want to be would be nightmarish.

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Liberals will be extremely upset when they discover how much gun crime comes from their own flock.

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Fuck that. I live in Alabama and it would quickly become a theocracy where women are forcibly given pregnancy tests every month and everyone would live in abject poverty.

Like Im falling for that one. The conservative side would just use up all their resources, then use their weapons to start taking the other sides. This is why relationships don't work when one person is all take and no give. And also isn't restricted by morals

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You got it backwards. Conservatives will conserve and the liberals will try to feed everyone on the planet. Why do you think the left loves high taxes?

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only if everyone gets a chance to move to their side. and the governments pay for moving expenses for anyone who can't afford it

This is basically what the civil wars was about.

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TheTrueAmerican posted...

You got it backwards. Conservatives will conserve and the liberals will liber.

Interesting point. Honestly tho. Forget I said anything. It's 12:30, I was never gonna get into an actual discussion.

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Mistere Man posted...

This is basically what the civil wars was about.

If the south didnt want to keep humans as property against their will then maybe they couldve reached an agreement.
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the left side would just want to split up again in another 150 years considering how much infighting there is.

mybbqrules posted...

Just the logistics alone of dividing the country in two and moving everyone out of the places they dont want to be would be nightmarish.

It worked for India and Pakistan!

sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious
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This is the dumbest fucking take every time it's posted. Giving Republicans free reign to set the environmental policies of fossil fuel states would worsen problems, not fix them.
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Antifar posted...

This is the dumbest fucking take every time it's posted. Giving Republicans free reign to set the environmental policies of fossil fuel states would worsen problems, not fix them.

Theyd still be at the mercy of global agreements. At least theyd get in their own war while the liberal side just sits back and watches with popcorn.
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EffectAndCause posted...

Theyd still be at the mercy of global agreements.

What global agreements? You have to agree to them to be at their mercy, and the ones we do have in place feature no enforcement whatsoever.
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Antifar posted...

What global agreements? You have to agree to them to be at their mercy, and the ones we do have in place feature no enforcement whatsoever.

Not yet. It can (and should) be treated the same as nuclear weapons agreements.

If the conservative side doesnt agree they stop receiving all imports of any kind.
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Republicans will put a stop to that again.
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Nah, we're way to meshed. Even Cali would be Swiss cheese

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I'm cool with it. All the Bible belt / south does is bring America down. No taxes? Sure that's nice until you realize your states were generating no income in the first place and you were leaching off the blue states and federal government for your crutches, and without them you fall apart. Imagine how much worst poverty and violence would be and how racism and sexism would flourish.

The liberal states will basically be like Canada. The conservative states will basically be like Iran or Saudi Arabia but with Christianity instead of Islam.

EffectAndCause posted...

Not yet. It can (and should) be treated the same as nuclear weapons agreements.

If the conservative side doesnt agree they stop receiving all imports of any kind.

If the only way your plan to work is for the world to suddenly take climate change seriously enough to threaten a global embargo of one side, your plan has issues.
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Yeah we tried that one time. Didnt pan out too well

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Middle hope posted...

Yeah we tried that one time. Didnt pan out too well

Yeah, conservatives tried to leave the union and liberals whupped em back into line

More borders to protect.

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Wars solve things too.

No. Splitting into 50 smaller countries, however...
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I think a lot of people here need to actually spend some time in the south. Would be a real eye opener.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I think a lot of people here need to actually spend some time in the south. Would be a real eye opener.

Yes I do agree. As someone that was raised the first half of his life in the north before moving to the south a lot has changed in the 20 years I have been here. Granted it still not where I want to spend the rest of my life, but it's progressed a lot. Both in social issues, education and state laws.

I get a lot of the generalizations, like in this thread, are mostly people trolling because this is CE. But I have a good feeling there are people that genuinely want to hold on to their prejudice generalizations without ever having been in the south all the while crying about other generalizations of other demographics.

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Not a good idea. Radical extremists on both sides, mainly the right though, that would try to force their beliefs on the other and it would eventually cause a another civil war. Plus, why should those who don't mainly identify or identify at all with a side be forced to pick one? Also, if this ever did happen, it would completely expose this sham of country that is supposed to be The United States of America, and show our enemies we really aren't allied at all, not even for the mutual good of our country and planet. Not say this isn't apparent as is given the way our president and a lot of our other politicians act.

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Perascamin posted...

Because there's liberals who believe in gun ownership, and conservatives who believe in gun restrictions

mybbqrules posted...

Just the logistics alone of dividing the country in two and moving everyone out of the places they dont want to be would be nightmarish.

TheTrueAmerican posted...

Liberals will be extremely upset when they discover how much gun crime comes from their own flock.

Antifar posted...

This is the dumbest fucking take every time it's posted. Giving Republicans free reign to set the environmental policies of fossil fuel states would worsen problems, not fix them.

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We tried that and had a war over it.

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Seems like conservatives dont want this more than liberals, probably because they know underneath it all that liberal politicians probably made the good things about their life happen.
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The US was originally supposed to have a very weak federal government, making it easy to vote with your feet. Over multiple generations, we somehow decided bit by bit that this bloated monstrosity of a federal government that controls a massive amount of the economy and has bases all over the world is constitutional.

Logistically it would be hard to break up because of debt and unfunded liabilities. If there is a hard economic reset such as a federal budget or dollar implosion it may become more feasible because states would have nothing to lose.

I think the above mentioned fiscal or dollar implosion is inevitable because the path of least resistance for politicians is deficit financing. I dont know what level of debt to GDP is too high, but its a safe bet that well get to that level regardless of what it is thanks to our governments political incentives. If your central bank makes debt cheap and you are an old politician looking to be re-elected in 1-4 years, why would you cut deficits when you can buy votes?

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