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discodancer77 03/07/20 11:46:12 PM #1:	Topic --- Playing: Life is Strange http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198797989609/wishlist/?sort=rank <cite>discodancer77 posted [p:935380224] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tiornys 03/07/20 11:50:34 PM #2:	Yes. <cite>tiornys posted [p:935380367] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 03/07/20 11:50:51 PM #3:	Sticker Star. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:935380377] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Sticker Star. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 03/07/20 11:57:04 PM #4:	Well yeah, there are a bunch of them... <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:935380578] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Well yeah, there are a bunch of them... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AFrench2 03/07/20 11:57:24 PM #5:	Insta-answer: CHRONO CROSS has no levels. /topic --- Ohh boy <cite>AFrench2 posted [p:935380593] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Insta-answer: CHRONO CROSS has no levels. /topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLastHero 03/07/20 11:58:28 PM #6:	Illusion of Gaia <cite>TheLastHero posted [p:935380622] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Illusion of Gaia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AFrench2 03/07/20 11:59:18 PM #7:	TheLastHero posted... Illusion of Gaia not an RPG neither is soulblazer or terranigma for that matter --- Ohh boy <cite>AFrench2 posted [p:935380653] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>TheLastHero posted... </cite> <quote>Illusion of Gaia</quote>not an RPG neither is soulblazer or terranigma for that matter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 03/08/20 12:00:07 AM #8:	Does upgrading weapons and armor count as levelling? Your character technically isn't gaining levels, but your equipment is by the process of being replaced with higher stat items. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:935380679] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Does upgrading weapons and armor count as levelling? Your character technically isn't gaining levels, but your equipment is by the process of being replaced with higher stat items. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 03/08/20 12:01:33 AM #9:	Outward. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:935380714] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Outward. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/08/20 12:01:57 AM #10:	No as it wouldn't really be an RPG --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:935380727] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>No as it wouldn't really be an RPG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PatrickMahomes 03/08/20 12:02:21 AM #11:	Ocarina of Time --- NFLB 2020 Summersim Roster (3-0): https://imgur.com/4Pvr5rT St. Louis Battlehawks (3-1) <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:935380740] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Ocarina of Time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLastHero 03/08/20 12:03:00 AM #12:	AFrench2 posted... not an RPG neither is soulblazer or terranigma for that matter Lol Let me guess. You don't think non-turnbased RPGs exist <cite>TheLastHero posted [p:935380760] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>AFrench2 posted...</cite> <quote> not an RPG neither is soulblazer or terranigma for that matter </quote> Lol Let me guess. You don't think non-turnbased RPGs exist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 03/08/20 12:03:48 AM #13:	nah. --- sometimes queen wrote about the sun. fiction wrote about it too. <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:935380784] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>nah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 03/08/20 12:04:35 AM #14:	PatrickMahomes posted... Ocarina of Time Didn't we already cover this earlier in the week? --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:935380808] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>PatrickMahomes posted... </cite> <quote>Ocarina of Time</quote> Didn't we already cover this earlier in the week? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sabram 03/08/20 12:11:31 AM #15:	vigorm0rtis posted... Outward. Seconded --- Check out my YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/user/SaintSabram Switch Friend Code: SW-1661-1393-5330 PSN: Sabram <cite>Sabram posted [p:935381000] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted... </cite> <quote>Outward.</quote>Seconded </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InTheEyesOfFire 03/08/20 12:21:48 AM #17:	Technically ff8, levels are kinda useless? Except for drawing powerful magic I guess. --- I should not walk so a child may live. <cite>InTheEyesOfFire posted [p:935381327] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Technically ff8, levels are kinda useless? Except for drawing powerful magic I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 03/08/20 12:25:04 AM #18:	Final Fantasy XII relies on equipment upgrades and the license grid --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:935381445] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy XII relies on equipment upgrades and the license grid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 03/08/20 12:51:34 AM #19:	Final Fantasy X doesn't have character levels, instead you increase stats using a grid that's shared by all the party members. There are nodes that need to be activated with certain items that enemies drop. FF XIII has something similar where enemies give you points that you use to travel along a path that has various nodes that activate after a certain amount have been invested, and each character has 6 different paths to invest in. And there's the aforementioned Chrono Cross where there are no levels, instead your stats increase up to a certain point depending on how many bosses you've defeated. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:935382284] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy X doesn't have character levels, instead you increase stats using a grid that's shared by all the party members. There are nodes that need to be activated with certain items that enemies drop. FF XIII has something similar where enemies give you points that you use to travel along a path that has various nodes that activate after a certain amount have been invested, and each character has 6 different paths to invest in. And there's the aforementioned Chrono Cross where there are no levels, instead your stats increase up to a certain point depending on how many bosses you've defeated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 03/08/20 1:02:02 AM #20:	Darklands (early 90s DOS RPG) has no levels but has 01-99 skills that raise as you use them or spend time with trainers (this game partly inspired the Elder Scrolls series) --- Posted from my iPhone 8 <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:935382625] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Darklands (early 90s DOS RPG) has no levels but has 01-99 skills that raise as you use them or spend time with trainers (this game partly inspired the Elder Scrolls series) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 03/08/20 2:07:31 AM #21:	Pitlord_Special posted... Darklands (early 90s DOS RPG) has no levels but has 01-99 skills that raise as you use them or spend time with trainers (this game partly inspired the Elder Scrolls series) Yep, that and Legends of Valor. I've got Darklands on my laptop. It's a good time. I've never gotten back to LoV because it's a pain in the ass to run in DOSBox, or so I've heard. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:935382778] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Pitlord_Special posted... </cite> <quote>Darklands (early 90s DOS RPG) has no levels but has 01-99 skills that raise as you use them or spend time with trainers (this game partly inspired the Elder Scrolls series)</quote> Yep, that and Legends of Valor. I've got Darklands on my laptop. It's a good time. I've never gotten back to LoV because it's a pain in the ass to run in DOSBox, or so I've heard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 03/08/20 2:08:37 AM #22:	Final Fantasy II doesn't use levels. --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 <cite>Strider102 posted [p:935382801] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy II doesn't use levels. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
discodancer77 03/08/20 2:33:03 AM #23:	Strider102 posted... Final Fantasy II doesn't use levels. damn, youre right! Ive even played this one, smh how did I forget --- Playing: Life is Strange http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198797989609/wishlist/?sort=rank <cite>discodancer77 posted [p:935383462] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite> <quote>Final Fantasy II doesn't use levels.</quote> damn, youre right! Ive even played this one, smh how did I forget </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/08/20 2:42:56 AM #24:	discodancer77 posted... smh how did I forget ...because it sucks? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935383726] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>discodancer77 posted... </cite> <quote>smh how did I forget</quote>...because it sucks? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
discodancer77 03/08/20 2:44:48 AM #25:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...because it sucks? I played a rom hack of the GBA version, made increasing stats a lot easier and the guest party members a lot more useful. Still not the greatest game by any stretch, but with those fixes it was decent considering the time it was originally released in --- Playing: Life is Strange http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198797989609/wishlist/?sort=rank <cite>discodancer77 posted [p:935383773] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>...because it sucks?</quote> I played a rom hack of the GBA version, made increasing stats a lot easier and the guest party members a lot more useful. Still not the greatest game by any stretch, but with those fixes it was decent considering the time it was originally released in </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/08/20 2:48:15 AM #26:	discodancer77 posted... still not the greatest game by any stretch, but with those fixes it was decent considering the time it was originally released in Even if it had levels and stuff, it would mostly be a game about swapping passwords or something. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:935383868] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>discodancer77 posted... </cite> <quote>still not the greatest game by any stretch, but with those fixes it was decent considering the time it was originally released in</quote>Even if it had levels and stuff, it would mostly be a game about swapping passwords or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PatrickMahomes 03/08/20 2:58:06 AM #27:	vigorm0rtis posted... Didn't we already cover this earlier in the week? Yes, I did. --- NFLB 2020 Summersim Roster (3-0): https://imgur.com/4Pvr5rT St. Louis Battlehawks (3-1) <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:935384132] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>vigorm0rtis posted... </cite> <quote>Didn't we already cover this earlier in the week?</quote>Yes, I did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
malenz 03/08/20 9:24:46 AM #28:	I wouldn't be surprised if there are games that use experience or skill points from doing quests/sidequests and tasks which you pool into different skills and abilities like in Deus Ex. I mean Deus Ex is an example, but probably not the kind of game you were talking about. Also a some games give you skills and abilities certain actions repeatedly. You guys keep mentioning Final Fantasy II, but an actual really good example of this sort of thing is the Quest for Glory games. --- Then by that logic, real men are pixies. <cite>malenz posted [p:935389867] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't be surprised if there are games that use experience or skill points from doing quests/sidequests and tasks which you pool into different skills and abilities like in Deus Ex. I mean Deus Ex is an example, but probably not the kind of game you were talking about. Also a some games give you skills and abilities certain actions repeatedly. You guys keep mentioning Final Fantasy II, but an actual really good example of this sort of thing is the Quest for Glory games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 03/08/20 9:27:43 AM #29:	Questionmarktarius posted... ...because it sucks? Still better than all the ATB Final Fantasy games. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:935389922] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>...because it sucks?</quote>Still better than all the ATB Final Fantasy games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tiornys 03/08/20 10:18:28 AM #30:	Most SaGa games don't use levels. Different races have different forms of advancement, things like random stat increases and ability learning, absorbing monsters, transforming into different monsters, or getting (extra) stats based on equipment. <cite>tiornys posted [p:935390959] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>Most SaGa games don't use levels. Different races have different forms of advancement, things like random stat increases and ability learning, absorbing monsters, transforming into different monsters, or getting (extra) stats based on equipment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
p-m 03/08/20 10:58:15 AM #31:	tiornys posted... Most SaGa games don't use levels. Different races have different forms of advancement, things like random stat increases and ability learning, absorbing monsters, transforming into different monsters, or getting (extra) stats based on equipment. This is what I came in to suggest, great games. --- 00000000000000000 <cite>p-m posted [p:935391874] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>tiornys posted... </cite> <quote>Most SaGa games don't use levels. Different races have different forms of advancement, things like random stat increases and ability learning, absorbing monsters, transforming into different monsters, or getting (extra) stats based on equipment.</quote>This is what I came in to suggest, great games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLastHero 03/08/20 10:41:33 PM #32:	tiornys posted... Most SaGa games don't use levels. Different races have different forms of advancement, things like random stat increases and ability learning, absorbing monsters, transforming into different monsters, or getting (extra) stats based on equipment. They still have grinding and increasing stats from combat which probably isn't what TC is asking for. <cite>TheLastHero posted [p:935418873] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>tiornys posted...</cite> <quote>Most SaGa games don't use levels. Different races have different forms of advancement, things like random stat increases and ability learning, absorbing monsters, transforming into different monsters, or getting (extra) stats based on equipment. </quote> They still have grinding and increasing stats from combat which probably isn't what TC is asking for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/08/20 10:43:23 PM #33:	There is an mmo called Secret World that either does or used to bot uave traditional levels. But I heard they rebuilt the game recently so maybe it's different now. When I tried it like 5 years ago, you got stronger by acquiring better gear You never actually leveled up <cite>Zikten posted [p:935418951] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>There is an mmo called Secret World that either does or used to bot uave traditional levels. But I heard they rebuilt the game recently so maybe it's different now. When I tried it like 5 years ago, you got stronger by acquiring better gear You never actually leveled up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 03/08/20 10:51:38 PM #34:	TheLastHero posted... They still have grinding and increasing stats from combat which probably isn't what TC is asking for. Considering this applies to Final Fantasy II and evidently fits TC's criteria per post 23, they might be something he's looking for. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:935419306] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>TheLastHero posted... </cite> <quote>They still have grinding and increasing stats from combat which probably isn't what TC is asking for.</quote>Considering this applies to Final Fantasy II and evidently fits TC's criteria per post 23, they might be something he's looking for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tiornys 03/08/20 10:57:44 PM #35:	TheLastHero posted... They still have grinding and increasing stats from combat which probably isn't what TC is asking for. I mean, this is fundamental to the concept of being an RPG. If the character isn't progressing in some fashion, you're in a different genre. <cite>tiornys posted [p:935419522] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>TheLastHero posted... </cite> <quote>They still have grinding and increasing stats from combat which probably isn't what TC is asking for.</quote>I mean, this is fundamental to the concept of being an RPG. If the character isn't progressing in some fashion, you're in a different genre. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
discodancer77 03/08/20 10:58:26 PM #36:	No I was literally just wondering about games that dont have a traditional leveling system. Just out of curiosity --- Playing: Life is Strange http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198797989609/wishlist/?sort=rank <cite>discodancer77 posted [p:935419550] in Are there ... [t:78457614]...</cite> <quote>No I was literally just wondering about games that dont have a traditional leveling system. Just out of curiosity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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