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MrToothHasYou 03/09/20 1:07:56 PM #205:	Doe posted... What's the shortlist https://twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/1236990553230839809?s=21 --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:935439136] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>What's the shortlist</quote>https://twitter.com/onesarahjones/status/1236990553230839809?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 03/09/20 1:21:00 PM #207:	shockthemonkey posted... She represents my best interests more than most wouldn't it be better she stays in the senate if it's about that? --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:935439668] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>She represents my best interests more than most</quote>wouldn't it be better she stays in the senate if it's about that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 03/09/20 1:32:07 PM #208:	ThyCorndog posted... wouldn't it be better she stays in the senate if it's about that? VP raises national profile Guarantee you if Biden wasnt Obamas VP he wouldnt have even made it to Iowa in this field --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG; Dead by Daylight Discord: https://discord.gg/s6gDduM <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:935440158] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>wouldn't it be better she stays in the senate if it's about that?</quote>VP raises national profile Guarantee you if Biden wasnt Obamas VP he wouldnt have even made it to Iowa in this field </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 03/09/20 1:42:31 PM #210:	Doom_Art posted... I dunno if I'd be huffy over an alleged list nearly a year out Ok when do you suggest we start freaking out about it --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:935440610] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>I dunno if I'd be huffy over an alleged list nearly a year out</quote>Ok when do you suggest we start freaking out about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/09/20 1:47:14 PM #211:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Ok when do you suggest we start freaking out about it When it's actually released or when folks start getting nominated? Seems a waste of energy when all you gotta go off of is a single twitter post that may or may not be true --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:935440802] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite> <quote>Ok when do you suggest we start freaking out about it</quote>When it's actually released or when folks start getting nominated? Seems a waste of energy when all you gotta go off of is a single twitter post that may or may not be true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 03/09/20 1:56:34 PM #213:	Doom_Art posted... MaxEffingBemis posted... Ok when do you suggest we start freaking out about it When it's actually released or when folks start getting nominated? Seems a waste of energy when all you gotta go off of is a single twitter post that may or may not be true It's from Axios. And it seems like some of you don't think we should worry about Biden at all until the day after he loses. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:935441153] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite> <quote> Ok when do you suggest we start freaking out about it</quote>When it's actually released or when folks start getting nominated? Seems a waste of energy when all you gotta go off of is a single twitter post that may or may not be true </quote> It's from Axios. And it seems like some of you don't think we should worry about Biden at all until the day after he loses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/09/20 2:29:33 PM #214:	By the time Biden wins or loses, it's too late to hold him accountable. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:935442491] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>By the time Biden wins or loses, it's too late to hold him accountable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 03/09/20 2:44:05 PM #215:	Antifar posted... By the time Biden wins or loses, it's too late to hold him accountable. Well, voters will hold Democrats accountable in 2022. That's probably when we stop pretending we're going to do anything other than purestrain austerity. I'm sure they'll exempt most of the Boomers from raised retirement age though, can't piss off the olds. Edit: Here, have a map before I go to work: https://www.270towin.com/maps/8xm12 That could change a bit, based on what the economy does and how the coronavirus business shakes out, of course. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:935443136] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>By the time Biden wins or loses, it's too late to hold him accountable.</quote>Well, voters will hold Democrats accountable in 2022. That's probably when we stop pretending we're going to do anything other than purestrain austerity. I'm sure they'll exempt most of the Boomers from raised retirement age though, can't piss off the olds. Edit: Here, have a map before I go to work: https://www.270towin.com/maps/8xm12 That could change a bit, based on what the economy does and how the coronavirus business shakes out, of course. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 03/09/20 4:09:32 PM #216:	preemptively mad about tomorrow rn --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:935446822] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>preemptively mad about tomorrow rn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/09/20 4:51:44 PM #217:	https://twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1237114103568752641 Very easy to get North and South Korea mixed up I guess. Hell, north and south, east and west. Same shit. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:935448586] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1237114103568752641 Very easy to get North and South Korea mixed up I guess. Hell, north and south, east and west. Same shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 03/09/20 9:05:14 PM #218:	Warren supporters: https://youtu.be/uEfqvBHVwk8 Please listen to the case against her made from around 17:30-34:50 in this and try to counter it. Shes a despicable person. On the subject of Warren for VP: no no NO <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:935459139] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Warren supporters: https://youtu.be/uEfqvBHVwk8 Please listen to the case against her made from around 17:30-34:50 in this and try to counter it. Shes a despicable person. On the subject of Warren for VP: no no NO </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blood_burn 03/09/20 9:10:12 PM #219:	wackyteen posted... I wonder if Bernie stays healthy and doesn't get it if he'll try again at 82 <_< I'm not sure, but that would be interesting. The guy is incredibly spry and energetic for his age, and I get the feeling he's going to be a centenarian and maybe well into his hundreds before he dies. <cite>blood_burn posted [p:935459369] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite> <quote>I wonder if Bernie stays healthy and doesn't get it if he'll try again at 82 <_<</quote> I'm not sure, but that would be interesting. The guy is incredibly spry and energetic for his age, and I get the feeling he's going to be a centenarian and maybe well into his hundreds before he dies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 03/09/20 11:12:59 PM #220:	https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1237201141496082432 https://twitter.com/AllieRaffa/status/1237193522098458625 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:935464673] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1237201141496082432 https://twitter.com/AllieRaffa/status/1237193522098458625</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 03/10/20 12:06:34 AM #222:	Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" as the main way to beat Trump when that bit them in the ass 4 years ago --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:935466563] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" as the main way to beat Trump when that bit them in the ass 4 years ago </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
INTERWEBUSER 03/10/20 12:07:47 AM #223:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" as the main way to beat Trump when that bit them in the ass 4 years ago Insanity: Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result Democrats arent known for being smart. Its why they lost over 1000 seats since Obama took office. --- PLAYSTATION 4: Best Console Ever \| ROCKSTAR: Best Developer Ever Trolling (v.): Posting an opinion that differs from yours <cite>INTERWEBUSER posted [p:935466606] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>NinjaWarrior455 posted... </cite> <quote>Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" as the main way to beat Trump when that bit them in the ass 4 years ago</quote>Insanity: Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result Democrats arent known for being smart. Its why they lost over 1000 seats since Obama took office. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 03/10/20 12:12:52 AM #224:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" in a democracy ?????????????? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:935466754] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>NinjaWarrior455 posted... </cite> <quote>Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" in a democracy</quote> ?????????????? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveTheUseless 03/10/20 12:14:42 AM #225:	Welp, on the east coast anyway, today is already the day that a lot of people's hopes and dreams will probably get crushed. --- www.youtube.com/davetheuseless Creepypasta Channel. twitter.com/davetheuseless DaveTheUseless Loves You. <cite>DaveTheUseless posted [p:935466807] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Welp, on the east coast anyway, today is already the day that a lot of people's hopes and dreams will probably get crushed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 03/10/20 12:18:56 AM #226:	DaveTheUseless posted... today is already the day that a lot of people's hopes and dreams will probably get crushed. yeah not gonna be a great day for trump supporters <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:935466947] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>DaveTheUseless posted... </cite> <quote>today is already the day that a lot of people's hopes and dreams will probably get crushed.</quote> yeah not gonna be a great day for trump supporters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 03/10/20 12:51:16 AM #227:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" as the main way to beat Trump when that bit them in the ass 4 years ago Because older voters want to feel comfortable. They don't want to feel like they made mistakes, they don't want to feel like they were wrong, and they definitely don't want to confront the reality that Trump is nothing more than a symptom of the countless problems that face this country. They want to vote for some one they don't have to pay attention to. Some one who lets them tune out, some one who absolves them of any and all responsibility, some one who doesn't make them feel like they were wrong to sell out and settle. Above all, they want to feel comfortable, to feel everything is fine. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:935467818] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>NinjaWarrior455 posted... </cite> <quote>Not sure why Dems are still trying to rally behind "electability" as the main way to beat Trump when that bit them in the ass 4 years ago</quote>Because older voters want to feel comfortable. They don't want to feel like they made mistakes, they don't want to feel like they were wrong, and they definitely don't want to confront the reality that Trump is nothing more than a symptom of the countless problems that face this country. They want to vote for some one they don't have to pay attention to. Some one who lets them tune out, some one who absolves them of any and all responsibility, some one who doesn't make them feel like they were wrong to sell out and settle. Above all, they want to feel comfortable, to feel everything is fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/10/20 1:07:05 AM #228:	https://twitter.com/rosariodawson/status/1237211581538328576 Rosario Dawson is a bad ass --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:935468223] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/rosariodawson/status/1237211581538328576 Rosario Dawson is a bad ass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/10/20 1:08:35 AM #229:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Because older voters want to feel comfortable. They don't want to feel like they made mistakes, they don't want to feel like they were wrong, and they definitely don't want to confront the reality that Trump is nothing more than a symptom of the countless problems that face this country. They want to vote for some one they don't have to pay attention to. Some one who lets them tune out, some one who absolves them of any and all responsibility, some one who doesn't make them feel like they were wrong to sell out and settle. Above all, they want to feel comfortable, to feel everything is fine. Wait so I'm already an older voter now? Because it's fucking exhausting hearing about the president every fucking day --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:935468260] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>Because older voters want to feel comfortable. They don't want to feel like they made mistakes, they don't want to feel like they were wrong, and they definitely don't want to confront the reality that Trump is nothing more than a symptom of the countless problems that face this country. They want to vote for some one they don't have to pay attention to. Some one who lets them tune out, some one who absolves them of any and all responsibility, some one who doesn't make them feel like they were wrong to sell out and settle. Above all, they want to feel comfortable, to feel everything is fine.</quote>Wait so I'm already an older voter now? Because it's fucking exhausting hearing about the president every fucking day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/20 1:29:46 AM #230:	wackyteen posted... Wait so I'm already an older voter now? Because it's fucking exhausting hearing about the president every fucking day If we want to make poor decisions and only vote for someone who is less of a media whore and not named Donald Trump, then why are people so gung ho on Biden? If anyone would be better, then why is anyone so much like Obama Episode 2: The Establishment Strikes Back? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:935468727] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite> <quote>Wait so I'm already an older voter now? Because it's fucking exhausting hearing about the president every fucking day</quote>If we want to make poor decisions and only vote for someone who is less of a media whore and not named Donald Trump, then why are people so gung ho on Biden? If anyone would be better, then why is anyone so much like Obama Episode 2: The Establishment Strikes Back? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 03/10/20 1:38:42 AM #231:	wackyteen posted... Wait so I'm already an older voter now? Because it's fucking exhausting hearing about the president every fucking day https://i.imgur.com/gwcCuEp.jpg Democratic Primary voters IRL. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:935468927] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite> <quote>Wait so I'm already an older voter now? Because it's fucking exhausting hearing about the president every fucking day</quote>https://i.imgur.com/gwcCuEp.jpg Democratic Primary voters IRL. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 03/10/20 6:28:31 AM #232:	Smashingpmkns posted... https://twitter.com/rosariodawson/status/1237211581538328576 Rosario Dawson is a bad ass Cory Booker getting cucked HARD --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:935473387] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/rosariodawson/status/1237211581538328576 Rosario Dawson is a bad ass</quote>Cory Booker getting cucked HARD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 03/10/20 6:37:16 AM #233:	Broseph_Stalin posted... yeah not gonna be a great day for trump supporters When is it ever? Been all downhill for them since his only real accomplishment (getting elected) <cite>Resaix posted [p:935473491] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>yeah not gonna be a great day for trump supporters</quote>When is it ever? Been all downhill for them since his only real accomplishment (getting elected) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 03/10/20 7:33:03 AM #234:	My guess is Broseph is going to be one of the people blaming Bernie Bros if Biden loses to Trump instead of looking at the actual reasons people didnt come out to vote for him --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG; Dead by Daylight Discord: https://discord.gg/s6gDduM <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:935474287] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>My guess is Broseph is going to be one of the people blaming Bernie Bros if Biden loses to Trump instead of looking at the actual reasons people didnt come out to vote for him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 03/10/20 7:38:24 AM #235:	Alpha218 posted... My guess is Broseph is going to be one of the people blaming Bernie Bros if Biden loses to Trump instead of looking at the actual reasons people didnt come out to vote for him Well, when the visible portion of Bernies movement is saying that they'll just write in Bernie in the general or will vote Trump, because "fuck the DNC" its hard not to think that would become an issue Especially when those same people, when Bernie was on top, were stressing that Biden/Buttigieg/Warren etc supporters should vote Bernie in the general if he were to win. I don't understand why some Bernie supporters think that if Biden loses to Trump, they'll have another chance in 4 years and be better off. That's at least one more SCOTUS justice for Trump, likely 2. The very idea behind Bernies movement would be dead in the water for 20+ years TL/DR: if you are a Bernie supporter, an actual supporter, swallow your pride and get Trump out. If, in the unlikely event that Bernie beats Biden, we'll do the same. <cite>Resaix posted [p:935474371] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Alpha218 posted... </cite> <quote>My guess is Broseph is going to be one of the people blaming Bernie Bros if Biden loses to Trump instead of looking at the actual reasons people didnt come out to vote for him</quote>Well, when the visible portion of Bernies movement is saying that they'll just write in Bernie in the general or will vote Trump, because "fuck the DNC" its hard not to think that would become an issue Especially when those same people, when Bernie was on top, were stressing that Biden/Buttigieg/Warren etc supporters should vote Bernie in the general if he were to win. I don't understand why some Bernie supporters think that if Biden loses to Trump, they'll have another chance in 4 years and be better off. That's at least one more SCOTUS justice for Trump, likely 2. The very idea behind Bernies movement would be dead in the water for 20+ years TL/DR: if you are a Bernie supporter, an actual supporter, swallow your pride and get Trump out. If, in the unlikely event that Bernie beats Biden, we'll do the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/10/20 7:44:09 AM #236:	It is actually quite annoying how when Bernie looked to be running away with this thing all his supporters were preaching unity and that the party needed to fall in line Then when Biden pulled ahead that sentiment from them evaporated pretty quickly --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:935474466] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>It is actually quite annoying how when Bernie looked to be running away with this thing all his supporters were preaching unity and that the party needed to fall in line Then when Biden pulled ahead that sentiment from them evaporated pretty quickly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malfunction 03/10/20 7:47:51 AM #237:	Doom_Art posted... It is actually quite annoying how when Bernie looked to be running away with this thing all his supporters were preaching unity and that the party needed to fall in line Then when Biden pulled ahead that sentiment from them evaporated pretty quickly I mean, the inverse is also true of Biden supporters and general centrist Democrats <cite>Malfunction posted [p:935474517] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>It is actually quite annoying how when Bernie looked to be running away with this thing all his supporters were preaching unity and that the party needed to fall in line Then when Biden pulled ahead that sentiment from them evaporated pretty quickly</quote>I mean, the inverse is also true of Biden supporters and general centrist Democrats </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/10/20 7:51:01 AM #238:	Idk as a Bernie supporter 4 more years of Trump is significantly better than potentially 8 more years of establishment politics and nothing progressive getting done at all I'm at the point where if Bernie loses today I'll swallow the bullet and hope Trump wins and the next 4 years go as smoothly as possible. <cite>645AR posted [p:935474561] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Idk as a Bernie supporter 4 more years of Trump is significantly better than potentially 8 more years of establishment politics and nothing progressive getting done at all I'm at the point where if Bernie loses today I'll swallow the bullet and hope Trump wins and the next 4 years go as smoothly as possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 03/10/20 7:53:53 AM #239:	645AR posted... Idk as a Bernie supporter 4 more years of Trump is significantly better than potentially 8 more years of establishment politics and nothing progressive getting done at all I'm at the point where if Bernie loses today I'll swallow the bullet and hope Trump wins and the next 4 years go as smoothly as possible. It's really not. If you choose Trump, you weren't actually a Bernie supporter. He wants almost literally the opposite of what Bernie wants, and you're giving up SCOTUS and the judicial branch <cite>Resaix posted [p:935474618] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>645AR posted... </cite> <quote>Idk as a Bernie supporter 4 more years of Trump is significantly better than potentially 8 more years of establishment politics and nothing progressive getting done at all I'm at the point where if Bernie loses today I'll swallow the bullet and hope Trump wins and the next 4 years go as smoothly as possible.</quote>It's really not. If you choose Trump, you weren't actually a Bernie supporter. He wants almost literally the opposite of what Bernie wants, and you're giving up SCOTUS and the judicial branch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/10/20 7:55:37 AM #240:	And we'd still have the house and will most likely keep that over the next 4 years. Again, it's 4 years of bad vs 8 years of bad. Take your pick. <cite>645AR posted [p:935474653] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>And we'd still have the house and will most likely keep that over the next 4 years. Again, it's 4 years of bad vs 8 years of bad. Take your pick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi7 03/10/20 7:56:12 AM #241:	No way Biden is going to serve 8 years. Honestly be surprised if he even makes it all 4. --- "Because it is physically impossible to fake it in the time the person would have to do it" MogKnightAzure on the Grinch leak <cite>Waluigi7 posted [p:935474664] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>No way Biden is going to serve 8 years. Honestly be surprised if he even makes it all 4. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 03/10/20 7:56:38 AM #242:	It comes down to this: I do not think even with a united front backing that Biden is electable. Trump will eat him for lunch in debates and political ads will absolutely ruin him in battleground states. The man can barely form coherent sentences. We made fun of Dubya for being poorly spoken but at least he just mangled metaphors and mispronounced words. Biden legit comes off as crazy or senile even to people who support him Some people may not like Bernie's politics or his policies but I don't think anyone can deny he's great on the stump. The guy oozes charisma, and he's one of the cleanest people in DC. They have to go back 30+ years to find "dirt" on him and the worst they can do is find instances of him being a bit insensitive. If you REALLY want Trump out of office you'll stop slurping the dick of whoever the party shills are trying to put forth and back a candidate who can actually fight Trump at his own game, because Biden's going to get his ass kicked every time he opens his mouth. --- Please, call me Bolt <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:935474673] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>It comes down to this: I do not think even with a united front backing that Biden is electable. Trump will eat him for lunch in debates and political ads will absolutely ruin him in battleground states. The man can barely form coherent sentences. We made fun of Dubya for being poorly spoken but at least he just mangled metaphors and mispronounced words. Biden legit comes off as crazy or senile even to people who support him Some people may not like Bernie's politics or his policies but I don't think anyone can deny he's great on the stump. The guy oozes charisma, and he's one of the cleanest people in DC. They have to go back 30+ years to find "dirt" on him and the worst they can do is find instances of him being a bit insensitive. If you REALLY want Trump out of office you'll stop slurping the dick of whoever the party shills are trying to put forth and back a candidate who can actually fight Trump at his own game, because Biden's going to get his ass kicked every time he opens his mouth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/10/20 7:57:41 AM #243:	Waluigi7 posted... No way Biden is going to serve 8 years. Honestly be surprised if he even makes it all 4. It doesn't matter if he doesn't get elected the 2nd year because that means a republican won. Biden getting the nom would be an absolute blow to there ever being a decent shot at a progressive in the white house before this country completely falls apart. <cite>645AR posted [p:935474690] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote>No way Biden is going to serve 8 years. Honestly be surprised if he even makes it all 4. </quote> It doesn't matter if he doesn't get elected the 2nd year because that means a republican won. Biden getting the nom would be an absolute blow to there ever being a decent shot at a progressive in the white house before this country completely falls apart.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 03/10/20 7:58:53 AM #244:	Resaix posted... Well, when the visible portion of Bernies movement is saying that they'll just write in Bernie in the general or will vote Trump, because "fuck the DNC" its hard not to think that would become an issue Especially when those same people, when Bernie was on top, were stressing that Biden/Buttigieg/Warren etc supporters should vote Bernie in the general if he were to win. I don't understand why some Bernie supporters think that if Biden loses to Trump, they'll have another chance in 4 years and be better off. That's at least one more SCOTUS justice for Trump, likely 2. The very idea behind Bernies movement would be dead in the water for 20+ years TL/DR: if you are a Bernie supporter, an actual supporter, swallow your pride and get Trump out. If, in the unlikely event that Bernie beats Biden, we'll do the same. Yall also gloated that these people didnt go out to vote for Sanders either. You really expect them to go vote for Biden knowing that? I voted for Hillary in 2016 general and will do it again for Biden but Jesus, theyre both terrible candidates. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG; Dead by Daylight Discord: https://discord.gg/s6gDduM <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:935474712] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Resaix posted... </cite> <quote>Well, when the visible portion of Bernies movement is saying that they'll just write in Bernie in the general or will vote Trump, because "fuck the DNC" its hard not to think that would become an issue Especially when those same people, when Bernie was on top, were stressing that Biden/Buttigieg/Warren etc supporters should vote Bernie in the general if he were to win. I don't understand why some Bernie supporters think that if Biden loses to Trump, they'll have another chance in 4 years and be better off. That's at least one more SCOTUS justice for Trump, likely 2. The very idea behind Bernies movement would be dead in the water for 20+ years TL/DR: if you are a Bernie supporter, an actual supporter, swallow your pride and get Trump out. If, in the unlikely event that Bernie beats Biden, we'll do the same.</quote>Yall also gloated that these people didnt go out to vote for Sanders either. You really expect them to go vote for Biden knowing that? I voted for Hillary in 2016 general and will do it again for Biden but Jesus, theyre both terrible candidates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/10/20 8:12:12 AM #245:	645AR posted... And we'd still have the house and will most likely keep that over the next 4 years. Again, it's 4 years of bad vs 8 years of bad. Take your pick. No its 20+ years of bad vs a one term democratic president --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:935474943] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>645AR posted... </cite> <quote>And we'd still have the house and will most likely keep that over the next 4 years. Again, it's 4 years of bad vs 8 years of bad. Take your pick.</quote>No its 20+ years of bad vs a one term democratic president </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 03/10/20 8:14:35 AM #246:	wackyteen posted... No its 20+ years of bad vs a one term democratic president People who say they are Sanders supporters but turn around and vote Trump were probably Trumpers from the beginning. Trump himself is trying to push this division, so I have no doubt his supporters are joining in on the gaslighting <cite>Resaix posted [p:935475000] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite> <quote>No its 20+ years of bad vs a one term democratic president</quote>People who say they are Sanders supporters but turn around and vote Trump were probably Trumpers from the beginning. Trump himself is trying to push this division, so I have no doubt his supporters are joining in on the gaslighting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/10/20 8:17:14 AM #247:	Resaix posted... People who say they are Sanders supporters but turn around and vote Trump were probably Trumpers from the beginning. Trump himself is trying to push this division, so I have no doubt his supporters are joining in on the gaslighting I wouldn't be surprised if some, not saying anyone here specifically, were just sleeper agents trying to sow dissent and chaos --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:935475060] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Resaix posted... </cite> <quote>People who say they are Sanders supporters but turn around and vote Trump were probably Trumpers from the beginning. Trump himself is trying to push this division, so I have no doubt his supporters are joining in on the gaslighting</quote>I wouldn't be surprised if some, not saying anyone here specifically, were just sleeper agents trying to sow dissent and chaos </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 03/10/20 8:20:20 AM #248:	Biden is only marginally better than Trump. Hell, that shortlist is enough to scare the more informed voters such as us in this topic --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:935475126] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Biden is only marginally better than Trump. Hell, that shortlist is enough to scare the more informed voters such as us in this topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 03/10/20 8:39:00 AM #249:	Alpha218 posted... My guess is Broseph is going to be one of the people blaming Bernie Bros if Biden loses to Trump instead of looking at the actual reasons people didnt come out to vote for him I'm really tired of seeing this "Democrats are making the same mistake" bullshit so I'm going to call you out on this. Look at counties where Hillary did better in 2016 than Obama did in 2012. They're almost all large, diverse and growing urban areas with a young, highly educated population that tends to lean farther to the left than the average voter. The most progressive areas of the country. The same places where Bernie performs best. Hillary did not lose in 2016 because progressive voters were unwilling to come out and vote for a moderate, she did better with those voters. Now look at counties where she won by a smaller margin than Obama and you'll find they tend to be full of Democrats that are older, whiter, more conservative and work blue-collar jobs. That's why she lost the rust belt. But where Hillary really got killed was in conservative counties: Its in the regions Obama lost that Clinton felt the most pain. In red counties, she received only 84 percent of the presidents votes in 2012, finishing 2.1 million behind. Even if Clinton matched Obama in turnout for every county he won that year, that wouldnt erase her deep disadvantage in conservative areas that the president himself couldnt clinch. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/hillary-clintons-surprising-vote-deficit/509174/ Hillary didn't lose because Americans wanted a more progressive candidate, or because the base didn't turn out for her. She lost because she wasn't popular with conservative Democrats and swing voters. There's zero evidence behind what you're saying. Maybe get some self-awareness and look at the reasons people ARE coming out to vote for Biden. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:935475569] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Alpha218 posted... </cite> <quote>My guess is Broseph is going to be one of the people blaming Bernie Bros if Biden loses to Trump instead of looking at the actual reasons people didnt come out to vote for him</quote> I'm really tired of seeing this "Democrats are making the same mistake" bullshit so I'm going to call you out on this. Look at counties where Hillary did better in 2016 than Obama did in 2012. They're almost all large, diverse and growing urban areas with a young, highly educated population that tends to lean farther to the left than the average voter. The most progressive areas of the country. The same places where Bernie performs best. Hillary did not lose in 2016 because progressive voters were unwilling to come out and vote for a moderate, she did better with those voters. Now look at counties where she won by a smaller margin than Obama and you'll find they tend to be full of Democrats that are older, whiter, more conservative and work blue-collar jobs. That's why she lost the rust belt. But where Hillary really got killed was in conservative counties: Its in the regions Obama lost that Clinton felt the most pain. In red counties, she received only 84 percent of the presidents votes in 2012, finishing 2.1 million behind. Even if Clinton matched Obama in turnout for every county he won that year, that wouldnt erase her deep disadvantage in conservative areas that the president himself couldnt clinch. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/hillary-clintons-surprising-vote-deficit/509174/ Hillary didn't lose because Americans wanted a more progressive candidate, or because the base didn't turn out for her. She lost because she wasn't popular with conservative Democrats and swing voters. There's zero evidence behind what you're saying. Maybe get some self-awareness and look at the reasons people ARE coming out to vote for Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 03/10/20 8:46:33 AM #250:	We all know you dont feel the need to look for an excuse to shit on Sanders supporters. No need to start pretending now. Let me say it again... you were gloating that young voters didnt come out to vote for Sanders, someone who is insanely popular with that demographic. So if this demographic full of Bernie Bros doesnt vote for Sanders, yall cant blame them if Biden loses. I honestly dont know who will win. I hope its not Trump. Also, Hillary actively ignored the rust belt states, and conservative media painted her as the devil. Thats why she lost there. She wasnt some progressive bastion like youre painting her to be. Im a progressive who will vote for the moderate if they win, because letting the conservatives win sets the cause back even farther... --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG; Dead by Daylight Discord: https://discord.gg/s6gDduM <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:935475719] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>We all know you dont feel the need to look for an excuse to shit on Sanders supporters. No need to start pretending now. Let me say it again... you were gloating that young voters didnt come out to vote for Sanders, someone who is insanely popular with that demographic. So if this demographic full of Bernie Bros doesnt vote for Sanders, yall cant blame them if Biden loses. I honestly dont know who will win. I hope its not Trump. Also, Hillary actively ignored the rust belt states, and conservative media painted her as the devil. Thats why she lost there. She wasnt some progressive bastion like youre painting her to be. Im a progressive who will vote for the moderate if they win, because letting the conservatives win sets the cause back even farther... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 03/10/20 8:48:37 AM #251:	Alpha218 posted... conservative media painted her as the devil. For 20+ years by 2016, mind you. People don't really realize exactly how unpopular Hillary was. --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:935475771] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Alpha218 posted... </cite> <quote>conservative media painted her as the devil.</quote>For 20+ years by 2016, mind you. People don't really realize exactly how unpopular Hillary was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 03/10/20 8:50:45 AM #252:	Im also convinced that she could have won if it wasnt for Comey reopening the email investigation. Dude shouldve been Trumps favorite guy because he handed him the election. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG; Dead by Daylight Discord: https://discord.gg/s6gDduM <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:935475810] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Im also convinced that she could have won if it wasnt for Comey reopening the email investigation. Dude shouldve been Trumps favorite guy because he handed him the election. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 03/10/20 8:53:57 AM #253:	Alpha218 posted... Im also convinced that she could have won if it wasnt for Comey reopening the email investigation. Dude shouldve been Trumps favorite guy because he handed him the election. Yeah, and Burisma is nothing compared to that. Biden is a far more solid candidate than Hillary. Hillary was also an arrogant, cold bitch. Biden is the forgetful grandpa you could sit and grab a beer with Willing to bet Trump is Hillary 16 with all the overconfidence <cite>Resaix posted [p:935475884] in Democratic... [t:78454468]...</cite> <quote>Alpha218 posted... </cite> <quote>Im also convinced that she could have won if it wasnt for Comey reopening the email investigation. Dude shouldve been Trumps favorite guy because he handed him the election.</quote>Yeah, and Burisma is nothing compared to that. Biden is a far more solid candidate than Hillary. Hillary was also an arrogant, cold bitch. Biden is the forgetful grandpa you could sit and grab a beer with Willing to bet Trump is Hillary 16 with all the overconfidence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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