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wackyteen
03/03/20 7:43:36 PM
#254:


Steve Nick posted...
so Trump for 4 more, I guess?

Honestly I don't fully buy that Trump will slobberknock Biden.

A lot, and I mean a fucking lot, of people don't want Trump. Don't expect them to just not vote

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Doom_Art
03/03/20 7:44:44 PM
#255:


As I said earlier

I'm pretty confident either Biden or Bernie could beat Trump. So pick your flavor.

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MrToothHasYou
03/03/20 7:44:54 PM
#256:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Man fuck the South
Blame Bernie and co. for not making enough progress with courting black voters. Literally all his campaign had to not get blown out in every Southern state was get through to the older black voting block, and by all accounts they seem to have failed miserably in doing that. It sucks but it is what it is.

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CruelBuffalo
03/03/20 7:44:55 PM
#257:


-ZIO- posted...
I will vote third party if Bernie doesn't get it. I just don't have any interest in voting for something I don't believe in. And I don't believe in sleepy Biden. Will not do it.

I'd rather vote to get a real third party into the election process instead of voting for status quo Biden.

k we get it. You guys dont care about the undocumented or the rights of other minority groups. You dont need to keep saying it.
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Spiritlittle
03/03/20 7:45:37 PM
#258:


wackyteen posted...
Honestly I don't fully buy that Trump will slobberknock Biden.

A lot, and I mean a fucking lot, of people don't want Trump. Don't expect them to just not vote
Unfortunately, it's going to really depend on voter turn out, and the younger voters resonate with Bernie the most.

He's the safest choice to beat Trump. Biden can win, but it's going to be an uphill battle, the same one Trump had to overcome in 2016.

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DaveTheUseless
03/03/20 7:46:13 PM
#259:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-primary-elections/american-samoa-results

well, Bloomberg won something

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Broseph_Stalin
03/03/20 7:46:47 PM
#260:


tulsi lost american samoa lmao
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DeadBankerDream
03/03/20 7:46:56 PM
#261:


DaveTheUseless posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-primary-elections/american-samoa-results

well, Bloomberg won something

Tulsi got a delegate.
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Doom_Art
03/03/20 7:47:02 PM
#262:


Spiritlittle posted...
and the younger voters resonate with Bernie the most.
As we're seeing tonight, young people don't vote

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DaveTheUseless
03/03/20 7:47:41 PM
#263:


Tulsi Blabbert

'blah blah blah I am Tulsi Blabbert blah blah blah Fox News correspondent'

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Spiritlittle
03/03/20 7:48:21 PM
#264:


Doom_Art posted...
As we're seeing tonight, young people don't vote
Most people don't vote in the primaries.

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DaveTheUseless
03/03/20 7:48:42 PM
#265:


I'm honestly surprised Biden is getting as many votes as he is from Vermont

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CruelBuffalo
03/03/20 7:48:53 PM
#266:


Spiritlittle posted...
Most people don't vote in the primaries.


Yet the midterms were crazy
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Tired-Insomniac
03/03/20 7:49:06 PM
#267:


Doom_Art posted...
As I said earlier

I'm pretty confident either Biden or Bernie could beat Trump. So pick your flavor.

This

Especially if Biden picks a really good VP.

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-ZIO-
03/03/20 7:51:01 PM
#268:


ssj3vegeta_ posted...
Just vote for trump, you'll be voting for him anyways lol

Nah, I will vote for third party funding to end this two party bullshit once and for all.
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MaxEffingBemis
03/03/20 7:51:50 PM
#269:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Yet the midterms were crazy
The midterms are totally different from the primaries

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wackyteen
03/03/20 7:51:56 PM
#270:


Third party funding?

There ain't no third party this time around worth mentioning in serious conversation

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Doom_Art
03/03/20 7:53:18 PM
#271:


Tired-Insomniac posted...
This

Especially if Biden picks a really good VP.
I'm curious as to whether we'll hear more about his 1 term thing

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/03/20 7:53:31 PM
#272:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Blame Bernie and co. for not making enough progress with courting black voters. Literally all his campaign had to not get blown out in every Southern state was get through to the older black voting block, and by all accounts they seem to have failed miserably in doing that. It sucks but it is what it is.

It has less to do with that, and more to do with the fact that older blacks don't think a progressive can beat Trump.

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-ZIO-
03/03/20 7:54:29 PM
#273:


If Biden gets the nom, you're kidding yourself if you think I'm going to be the only one going third party.

Last election we were a stone throw away of making it happen. If DNC gives this to Biden, then we voters might end up feeling disinfranchised enough to vote third party. I know I will.
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Smashingpmkns
03/03/20 7:54:36 PM
#274:


Kinda weird how Bloomberg won American Samoa
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Tired-Insomniac
03/03/20 7:54:54 PM
#275:


-ZIO- posted...
Nah, I will vote for third party funding to end this two party bullshit once and for all.

2016 was the best chance of that ever happening with Gary Johnson and it didn't happen

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Doom_Art
03/03/20 7:54:59 PM
#276:


Older black voters historically tend to be fairly moderate in their politics as well

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Broseph_Stalin
03/03/20 7:55:46 PM
#277:


-ZIO- posted...
If DNC gives this to Biden, then we voters

shut the fuck up
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MaxEffingBemis
03/03/20 7:55:55 PM
#278:


Biden is not beating Trump

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Maeiv
03/03/20 7:55:58 PM
#279:


As much as I dislike Biden he can beat Trump

people seem to forget that the Clinton almost won even with the email scandal hanging over her

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CruelBuffalo
03/03/20 7:56:26 PM
#280:


-ZIO- posted...
If Biden gets the nom, you're kidding yourself if you think I'm going to be the only one going third party.

Last election we were a stone throw away of making it happen. If DNC gives this to Biden, then we voters might end up feeling disinfranchised enough to vote third party. I know I will.

gives it? Its based off of votes bruh
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MaxEffingBemis
03/03/20 7:56:58 PM
#281:


Maeiv posted...
As much as I dislike Biden he can beat Trump

people seem to forget that the Clinton almost won even with the email scandal hanging over her
Yes and that was four years ago. Trump has gained tremendous support since then. This isnt an easy election anymore

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TheLastHero
03/03/20 7:57:02 PM
#282:


It's just going to play out the same exact way as 2016
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DaveTheUseless
03/03/20 7:57:24 PM
#283:


I'm trying to watch the ABC News stream but a special on Hilary Clinton came on and eurgh

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wackyteen
03/03/20 7:57:33 PM
#284:


-ZIO- posted...
If Biden gets the nom, you're kidding yourself if you think I'm going to be the only one going third party.

Last election we were a stone throw away of making it happen. If DNC gives this to Biden, then we voters might end up feeling disinfranchised enough to vote third party. I know I will.
I mean if you want 4 more years of Trump then vote third party I guess.

I'm not stuck so far up my own ass to not be able to see that we need literally every vote to beat Trump.

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MrToothHasYou
03/03/20 7:57:48 PM
#285:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
It has less to do with that, and more to do with the fact that older blacks don't think a progressive can beat Trump.
Okay but still the campaign's job is to either convince those voters otherwise, or get enough support elsewhere to negate that opposition.

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wackyteen
03/03/20 7:58:20 PM
#286:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Yes and that was four years ago. Trump has gained tremendous support since then. This isnt an easy election anymore
Has he really though

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ssjevot
03/03/20 7:58:25 PM
#287:


-ZIO- posted...
If Biden gets the nom, you're kidding yourself if you think I'm going to be the only one going third party.

Last election we were a stone throw away of making it happen. If DNC gives this to Biden, then we voters might end up feeling disinfranchised enough to vote third party. I know I will.

Not to say the DNC isn't trying their hardest to skunk him, but if he is winning 50% in some states now it could just be he has a wider support base. Bernie is struggling to get people who aren't young (which let's be real is the worst demographic when it comes to voting). Again I support Bernie the most of the people running, just saying this is largely a result of him lacking appeal to many key demographics. And a lot of it self-inflicted. If you're pushing for social democracy capitalist policy then why would you call yourself a socialist? Especially knowing how toxic that word is to older voters (the most important demographic)?

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TheLastHero
03/03/20 7:59:07 PM
#288:


MaxEffingBemis posted...

Yes and that was four years ago. Trump has gained tremendous support since then. This isnt an easy election anymore


I wouldn't say "tremendous support". His approval has dropped a lot and many people who voted him only because they saw him as the lesser evil are no longer on board. You're probably letting the vocal cultists throw you off
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DaveTheUseless
03/03/20 7:59:08 PM
#290:


At least vote for Dems in the Senate so Trump can become the first President to be impeached twice (and this time get voted out of office)

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MaxEffingBemis
03/03/20 7:59:14 PM
#291:


wackyteen posted...
Has he really though
Yes

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Tired-Insomniac
03/03/20 8:00:31 PM
#293:


Maeiv posted...
As much as I dislike Biden he can beat Trump

people seem to forget that the Clinton almost won even with the email scandal hanging over her

This, Trump literally won by about 75,000-80,000 votes split across three states

I know Biden isn't the most unpopular guy but I feel he's more liked than Hillary was, and a lot of Trump voters have stopped supporting him.

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-ZIO-
03/03/20 8:00:32 PM
#294:


wackyteen posted...
I mean if you want 4 more years of Trump then vote third party I guess.

Giving us Biden will get Trump reelected.

So my vote will not matter anyway.
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MaxEffingBemis
03/03/20 8:00:56 PM
#295:


TheLastHero posted...
I wouldn't say "tremendous support". His approval has dropped a lot and many people who voted him only because they saw him as the lesser evil are no longer on board. You're probably letting the vocal cultists throw you off
Since the impeachment trial, hes gained a lot more support

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Jiek_Fafn
03/03/20 8:01:11 PM
#296:


Tired-Insomniac posted...
2016 was the best chance of that ever happening with Gary Johnson and it didn't happen
Pretty much true. We had the two most disliked candidates maybe ever. Johnson had some backing but if we had a 3rd party as popular as a Ross Perot or something we would've almost definitely derailed the 2 party system. Sadly, we weren't in that situation.

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Maeiv
03/03/20 8:01:15 PM
#297:


Hairistotle posted...
what, guys, dont be stupid

why would you turn around and vote for trump if bernie isnt the nominee

Bernie pushed the DNC rigged it against me narrative so his supporters are going to feel robbed and alienated

its not that they will vote for Trump but rather not vote at all and lower turnout works in favor for the Republicans

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Smashingpmkns
03/03/20 8:01:36 PM
#298:


Biden really is a weaker candidate than Clinton was in 2016. Add Trump's childish name calling that his supporters eat up and he'll get stomped.
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/03/20 8:01:57 PM
#299:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Okay but still the campaign's job is to either convince those voters otherwise, or get enough support elsewhere to negate that opposition.

You can't convince them otherwise when history has shown them that progressives won't win the election.

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DaveTheUseless
03/03/20 8:02:05 PM
#300:


'Biden has won in Alabama' well yeah

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hockeybub89
03/03/20 8:03:08 PM
#301:


wackyteen posted...
I mean if you want 4 more years of Trump then vote third party I guess.

I'm not stuck so far up my own ass to not be able to see that we need literally every vote to beat Trump.
Everyone should vote for a candidate, not against another. No one is holding a gun against anyone's heads and demanding a vote. If no candidates resonate with you, then the ideologically consistent thing to do is to not vote.

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sylverlolol
03/03/20 8:03:49 PM
#302:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Yes
lol no

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COVxy
03/03/20 8:04:00 PM
#303:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Biden really is a weaker candidate than Clinton was in 2016. Add Trump's childish name calling that his supporters eat up and he'll get stomped.

He's got one big thing over Clinton though: he's not a woman.

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