Current Events > It's bad for Bernie Sanders to try to win

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Intro2Logic
02/28/20 9:59:33 PM
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02/28/opinion/bernie-sanders-goes-campaign-kill/#bgmp-comments

Lets call Bernie Sanders latest campaign move exactly what it is:
Shabby, Bernie, shabby.

As he pursues the nomination of a party he hasnt even deigned to join over the long term, Sanders is coming to Elizabeth Warrens home state for two pre-Super Tuesday stops Springfield on Friday, Boston on Saturday in the hope of dealing her a campaign-ending defeat. Hell be in Minnesota on Monday, with the same goal regarding Amy Klobuchar.

Warrens campaign is already facing tough times, while Sanders is ascendent among the progressive voters the two are vying for. Leading in both California and Texas, he is expected to rack up some big victories on Super Tuesday, while Warren will likely be left to try to put a shine on more discouraging results.

But thats just another reason why his raid behind her political lines is an affront to his Senate colleague, supposed friend, and left-wing ally. Any advantage he gains would come at the cost of her dignity.

After all, its not just that a loss in her home state would likely mark the end of Warrens presidential hopes. It would also visit a major humiliation upon her in the process.

Sanders, however, is perfectly willing to do that to a fellow progressive senator, one who has been so gentle in her campaign criticism of him that their left-lane rivalry has barely risen to the level of a political pillow fight. That despite the endless targets of opportunity his record presents.

It is very disrespectful and disappointing that after so many years of collaboration, he would come in to try to embarrass Elizabeth in her own state, says Phil Johnston, former chairman of the state Democratic Party and a Warren supporter.

Its also revealing.


Has he no shame?


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ElatedVenusaur
02/28/20 10:02:41 PM
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Yeah, it's not like Warren has openly declared she hopes to win a brokered convention even if she doesn't have a plurality of delegates. It's Bernie who is being ungentlemanly, like his unruly horde of white, sexist, unwashed Bros.
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Cheater87
02/28/20 10:10:48 PM
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The establishment and MSM hate him.

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berlyman101
02/28/20 10:12:48 PM
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this is what we call the bargaining stage

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vigorm0rtis
02/28/20 10:13:32 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
this is what we call the bargaining stage

Accurate.

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iPhone_7
02/28/20 10:13:58 PM
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Bernie has more white female supporters than white male supporters, yet theyre all Bernie Bros.

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Unknown5uspect
02/28/20 10:15:27 PM
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What in the actual ... this is a fucking primary race. If Warren didn't want to get embarrassed in her home state she would have campaigned better.

Is this satire? This sounds like satire.
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Intro2Logic
02/29/20 8:15:17 AM
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It is not satire

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Smashingpmkns
02/29/20 11:26:02 AM
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Campaigning is violence
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Intro2Logic
02/29/20 2:12:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/howardfineman/status/1233412073528397824


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RebelElite791
02/29/20 2:19:30 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
https://twitter.com/howardfineman/status/1233412073528397824
what a joke

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uwnim
02/29/20 2:19:58 PM
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<__< Why are they so desperate to take him down?

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Guide
02/29/20 2:20:28 PM
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Is the Boston Globe some kind of parody?

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ElatedVenusaur
02/29/20 2:20:29 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
https://twitter.com/howardfineman/status/1233412073528397824
Oh, does he mean like California, the state where Bernie is leading by 15-20 points? Or Texas, where he is also winning?
Hmm, it's almost like Massachusetts and Minnesota aren't far done the list in terms of delegates from them...
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Intro2Logic
02/29/20 2:22:47 PM
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Guide posted...
Is the Boston Globe some kind of parody?
It is the biggest paper in Massachusetts.

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Guide
02/29/20 2:25:36 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
It is the biggest paper in Massachusetts.

That's so sad. It's an opinion piece, but damn.

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__aCEr__
02/29/20 2:27:42 PM
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I suppose Fineman thinks he's taking a feminist stance there but "Go easy on them. They're women." is kinda the opposite of that.

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Sunburst
02/29/20 2:31:22 PM
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Having a far left guy like Bernie Sanders as Dem nom will hand the election to Trump. You need a moderate like Joe Biden to win swing states.

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Guide
02/29/20 2:32:49 PM
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Sunburst posted...
Having a far left guy like Bernie Sanders as Dem nom will hand the election to Trump. You need a moderate like Joe Biden to win swing states.

No one even liked Hillary, but even with low voter turnout, she still won the popular vote.

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Intro2Logic
02/29/20 2:34:16 PM
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Sunburst posted...
Having a far left guy like Bernie Sanders as Dem nom will hand the election to Trump. You need a moderate like Joe Biden to win swing states.
Ok

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Sunburst
02/29/20 2:34:30 PM
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I liked Hillary as many others did. She wasn't radical like Bernie.

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__aCEr__
02/29/20 2:35:26 PM
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And that's why she'll never be a ninja turtle.

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ElatedVenusaur
02/29/20 2:39:39 PM
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Sunburst posted...
Having a far left guy like Bernie Sanders as Dem nom will hand the election to Trump. You need a moderate like Joe Biden to win swing states.


Sunburst posted...
I liked Hillary as many others did. She wasn't radical like Bernie.
She was like Al Gore and John Kerry. To be fair, she and Gore should have (did, in Gore's case) win. Seems like when you need a candidate with the charisma of a Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to win that your strategy may not be very strong. Are you suggesting Biden is as charismatic as that?
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Damn_Underscore
02/29/20 2:41:07 PM
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Sunburst posted...
I liked Hillary as many others did. She wasn't radical like Bernie.


Too bad all the people who liked Hillary didn't Pokemon go to the polls
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Sunburst
02/29/20 2:41:19 PM
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I think the main things that hurt Hilary in Red states and purple states was the fact that she was a woman and who her husband was.

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Phantom_Nook
02/29/20 2:41:47 PM
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Sunburst posted...
Having a far left guy like Bernie Sanders as Dem nom will hand the election to Trump. You need a moderate like Joe Biden to win swing states.
"the left has to be moderate, but the right can be as insane as they please."

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ThyCorndog
02/29/20 2:45:25 PM
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I'm gonna lmao if Bernie wins the home state of every other candidate

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Sunburst
02/29/20 2:47:07 PM
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Oh and Biden obviously isn't as charismatic as Bill or Obama. But I do think he is the most rational of leading noms. In the last debate he was the only candidate that would follow the rules and not speak past his time limit. The others acted like wild children.

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Damn_Underscore
02/29/20 2:53:15 PM
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The DNC really messed up this primary with their mainstream candidates. Biden is a bargain version of Kerry/Hillary and Buttigieg is a bargain version of Obama. If there was another Obama in this primary or if Biden wasn't so uninspiring (and that's saying a lot when your competition is John Kerry and Hillary Clinton), Bernie would probably not be winning. Bernie will get the plurality of votes at this rate and if they try to steal the nomination from him then Trump will win the election.
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Smashingpmkns
02/29/20 2:57:41 PM
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No candidate has ever lost their home state and won the nomination.
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andel
03/01/20 5:15:02 PM
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so ..these people are saying that bernie shouldnt be trying to win certain states? wow

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