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SBAndross
02/25/20 2:17:13 AM
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It is better to enter the Kingdom of Heaven with one eye than be sent to Hell with both."

So, if God doesn't want us to use our eyes, why did he give them to us in the first place?

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Foppe
02/25/20 2:27:02 AM
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Because he gave us free will to sin or not.

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malenz
02/25/20 2:27:52 AM
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Most of CE is being asked by the bible to cut off their "favored" hand.
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coh
02/25/20 2:29:38 AM
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Pretty sure it's metaphorical. Not asking you to literally gouge out your eye
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FL81
02/25/20 2:33:06 AM
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malenz
02/25/20 2:34:45 AM
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gunplagirl
02/25/20 2:36:36 AM
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coh posted...
Pretty sure it's metaphorical. Not asking you to literally gouge out your eye
Nah. It's literal. Remember the time Jesus whipped the money changers?

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viewmaster_pi
02/25/20 2:38:49 AM
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Foppe posted...
Because he gave us free will to sin or not.
actually satan got eve to steal it for us

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Verdekal
02/25/20 2:42:49 AM
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Is this about Ash Wednesday?

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Foppe
02/25/20 2:44:22 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
actually satan got eve to steal it for us
If we hadnt had free will by then, Eve wouldnt have taken it.

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viewmaster_pi
02/25/20 2:45:56 AM
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oh, eve took it alright...

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Supernatural
02/25/20 2:49:53 AM
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Is your hand really causing you to sin? Or is it you?? If I had no control over my hand I think I would cut it off.

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Guide
02/25/20 3:09:15 AM
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coh posted...
Pretty sure it's metaphorical. Not asking you to literally gouge out your eye

Better to have one eye and go to heaven than burn both eyes in hell.

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Returning_CEmen
02/25/20 3:33:35 AM
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Its just saying have self control geez
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Rika_Furude
02/25/20 3:34:51 AM
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All this god shit is dumb. "Free will" is not a thing if "god" is omnipotent. Ill never understand religious people.

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Supernatural
02/25/20 3:40:41 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
All this god shit is dumb. "Free will" is not a thing if "god" is omnipotent. Ill never understand religious people.
Why not


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Returning_CEmen
02/25/20 3:45:14 AM
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No one has free will my dude. It just doesnt exist in nature. We have a will but it isnt free.
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Supernatural
02/25/20 3:51:56 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
No one has free will my dude. It just doesnt exist in nature. We have a will but it isnt free.
whats the catch

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Foppe
02/25/20 4:16:38 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
All this god shit is dumb. "Free will" is not a thing if "god" is omnipotent. Ill never understand religious people.
God can see all possible futures, problem solved.

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Returning_CEmen
02/25/20 4:23:19 AM
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Supernatural posted...
whats the catch
I dont understand what you are asking
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KDTProjekt
02/25/20 4:26:54 AM
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I often wonder, if in 2,000 years time, there will be a theocratic cult surrounding the Harry Potter novels, that eventually fragment into sects, and war amongst themselves on the various contradictions in a fictional text. Naw....wait. We're already there.

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Rika_Furude
02/25/20 4:29:28 AM
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Foppe posted...
God can see all possible futures, problem solved.
is your christian god omnipotent or not. just a yes or no will suffice

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Supernatural
02/25/20 4:30:02 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
I dont understand what you are asking
if our will isnt free then whats the price

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Guide
02/25/20 5:49:26 PM
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Foppe posted...
God can see all possible futures, problem solved.

This doesn't solve predestination. If he knows everything, then he knows which future will come true. You either admit predestination, or admit that God doesn't know the future.

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Hinakuluiau
02/25/20 6:01:33 PM
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Guide posted...
This doesn't solve predestination. If he knows everything, then he knows which future will come true. You either admit predestination, or admit that God doesn't know the future.
God doesn't have to follow logic, he's literally beyond that. If he wants free will to be a thing while also knowing everything, he can. He doesn't have to make sense to our puny human minds, it just is.

Of course he isn't real, but I digress.

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Fam_Fam
02/25/20 6:02:56 PM
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you can be omnipotent and choose not to do something
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Guide
02/25/20 6:04:32 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
God doesn't have to follow logic, he's literally beyond that. If he wants free will to be a thing while also knowing everything, he can. He doesn't have to make sense to our puny human minds, it just is.

Of course he isn't real, but I digress.

Sure, but that triggers the principle of explosion, and thus foijegorjeworodnfuef is just as valid as whatever you said.

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uwnim
02/25/20 6:16:02 PM
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God is neither all powerful nor all knowing. His power is vast, but still of a finite quality. His knowledge has grown since he first started but he still doesnt know everything.

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KiwiTerraRizing
02/25/20 6:17:42 PM
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The sin here is looking at big booty.

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coinstarcad
02/25/20 6:48:31 PM
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That passage is talking about your third eye, not your regular eyes.
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malenz
02/25/20 6:55:51 PM
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uwnim posted...
God is neither all powerful nor all knowing. His power is vast, but still of a finite quality. His knowledge has grown since he first started but he still doesnt know everything.
I agree with this. He is BEGGING us to take Christ as our savior. He can't do what we won't for ourselves.
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Wewillrocku
02/25/20 7:04:06 PM
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coinstarcad posted...
That passage is talking about your third eye, not your regular eyes.
lol...

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malenz
02/25/20 7:11:30 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
he didn't though, he wanted adam and eve to remain ignorant of the knowledge of good and evil forever in the garden of eden. it was the serpent that tempted eve into tasting the fruit of that tree, which supposedly gave man free will.
knowledge isnt a prerequisit to making a choice. children can disobey their parents without really knowing why it is bad, but they still made the choice to rebel.
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E32005
02/25/20 7:20:41 PM
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"you cant take it literal!"
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treewojima
02/25/20 7:21:14 PM
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How can God be real if our eyes aren't real
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malenz
02/25/20 7:22:06 PM
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PrideOfLion posted...
A good parent explains why a rule is in place
that's not always possible nor wise
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DrizztLink
02/25/20 7:24:18 PM
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I imagine it's hyperbole to say that you should take drastic measures to avoid hell.

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malenz
02/25/20 7:25:41 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I imagine it's hyperbole to say that you should take drastic measures to avoid hell.
like cutting out people and places and habits that are a cause for you to sin, like going to the bar for example
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Foppe
02/26/20 2:34:23 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
he didn't though, he wanted adam and eve to remain ignorant of the knowledge of good and evil forever in the garden of eden. it was the serpent that tempted eve into tasting the fruit of that tree, which supposedly gave man free will.
He used reverse psychology and then allowed the Serpent to tempt them.


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645AR
02/26/20 2:46:05 AM
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It's our brains causing us to sin so the real answer is to throw out our brains
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Foppe
02/26/20 2:50:02 AM
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645AR posted...
It's our brains causing us to sin so the real answer is to throw out our brains
Only the living sin, thereby life itself is a sin.

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synth_real
02/26/20 5:22:56 AM
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Gladius_ posted...
Then he isn't worth worshipping.
The god who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent is far beyond the level of caring if it is worshiped or not

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ZEROWOLF
02/26/20 5:24:38 AM
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Foppe posted...
Because he gave us free will.
And then punishes you for using it.

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Foppe
02/26/20 5:28:45 AM
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ZEROWOLF posted...
And then punishes you for using it.
Or if your ancestor used it.

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