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Default1234
02/23/20 11:03:36 PM
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unfortunately it is very difficult to own a gun legally in some countries
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FrankGoreHOF
02/23/20 11:04:39 PM
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Sounds like the first line of a 5th grade essay

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Rika_Furude
02/23/20 11:05:35 PM
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Nobody except the military and police need a gun. Allowing civilians to have guns is a huge negative, as demonstrated by the US.

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Questionmarktarius
02/23/20 11:07:27 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Nobody except the military and police need a gun.
If nobody else has guns, why would police need them?
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Irony
02/23/20 11:07:57 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If nobody else has guns, why would police need them?
To shoot unarmed people obviously

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GrandConjuraton
02/23/20 11:08:37 PM
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I was expecting a reference to the "bear arms" cutaway from Family Guy.

I am disappoint.

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Default1234
02/23/20 11:19:20 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Nobody except the military and police need a gun. Allowing civilians to have guns is a huge negative, as demonstrated by the US.

yeah and then the military and police can bully you if they want and you would have nothing to defend yourself with
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WilliamPorygon
02/23/20 11:20:49 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
I was expecting a reference to the "bear arms" cutaway from Family Guy.

I am disappoint.

...But everyone does have the right to bear arms! You just have to contact a fursuit maker and ask for them.

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Rika_Furude
02/23/20 11:21:43 PM
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Default1234 posted...
yeah and then the military and police can bully you if they want and you would have nothing to defend yourself with
Oh ok just allow citizens to have tanks and nukes then so they can defend themselves

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StickFigures720
02/23/20 11:25:15 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Oh ok just allow citizens to have tanks and nukes then so they can defend themselves
I'm generally indifferent about the second amendment, but for Christ's sake...


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Rika_Furude
02/23/20 11:26:21 PM
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StickFigures720 posted...
I'm generally indifferent about the second amendment, but for Christ's sake...
Im not the one who brought up fighting against the military

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Default1234
02/23/20 11:49:34 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Oh ok just allow citizens to have tanks and nukes then so they can defend themselves
what are you talking about? Is this an argument?
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DarkProto05
02/23/20 11:52:35 PM
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I disagree. Criminals and people with certain mental illnesses should not have that right.

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Strider102
02/23/20 11:53:22 PM
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My guard bears are always armed.

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/20 12:10:00 AM
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Crono99 posted...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the point of the 2nd amendment to be able to defend yourself against indian raids on the settlements?

Plain old anti-tyranny sentiment.
https://www.vox.com/2016/8/22/12559364/second-amendment-tyranny-militia-constitution-founders

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Garioshi
02/24/20 12:16:57 AM
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Crono99 posted...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the point of the 2nd amendment to be able to defend yourself against indian raids on the settlements?

Those were difficult times back then.
Virginian slave patrols (to get VA to sign onto the Constitution) and a literal militia in case the US was invaded by a foreign country (as it didn't have a standing army at the time). Revisionist talking points about "tyranny" are bullshit.

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darkprince45
02/24/20 12:18:39 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If nobody else has guns, why would police need them?
a knife? Anything that can be used to kill someone? Is this for real

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SamsungGearS2
02/24/20 12:19:35 AM
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Irony posted...
To shoot unarmed people obviously
Username checks out

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Darmik
02/24/20 12:20:34 AM
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Default1234 posted...
yeah and then the military and police can bully you if they want and you would have nothing to defend yourself with

It's okay to shoot the cops/military if they bully you?

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MarqueeSeries
02/24/20 12:48:07 AM
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Darmik posted...
Default1234 posted...
yeah and then the military and police can bully you if they want and you would have nothing to defend yourself with

It's okay to shoot the cops/military if they bully you?

Morally yes, legally no

Since when the police "bully" you it is excessive force and when the military does it it's occupation
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Default1234
02/24/20 3:22:25 AM
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whatever may be the reason for the amendment in those days
it is beneficial for the public today
why should only certain members of the society have that privilege?

and yeah, it is right to shoot a policeman or military personnel in self defence if they are threatening your life/attacking you/shooting at you

when you can't defend yourself, you become vulnerable to those that do carry arms or are larger in numbers and they decide to attack you
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Rika_Furude
02/24/20 4:43:03 AM
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Default1234 posted...
it is beneficial for the public today
beneficial if you think a higher murder rate is beneficial

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inTaCtfuL
02/24/20 5:08:40 AM
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Default1234 posted...
yeah and then the military and police can bully you if they want and you would have nothing to defend yourself with
Like I can understand that point (and I'm not trying to be a funny sarcastic guy here) but wouldn't you make the situation alot worse if you had a gun in that situation? Lol

Like let's say the military and police do end up bullying you, if you then pull out a gun to defend yourself then what's stopping them from really fucking you up afterwards?


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Crazyman93
02/24/20 5:10:26 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Nobody except the military and police need a gun. Allowing civilians to have guns is a huge negative, as demonstrated by the US.

Says a guy from a nation literally descended from criminals.
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Rika_Furude
02/24/20 5:48:41 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Says a guy from a nation literally descended from criminals.
ive had you tagged as anti-australia for years

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coh
02/24/20 5:54:11 AM
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People who are going to kill people will do it regardless if they have guns or not

Simply having a gun isn't going to make you into a killer
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Default1234
02/24/20 11:11:16 AM
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inTaCtfuL posted...
Like I can understand that point (and I'm not trying to be a funny sarcastic guy here) but wouldn't you make the situation alot worse if you had a gun in that situation? Lol

Like let's say the military and police do end up bullying you, if you then pull out a gun to defend yourself then what's stopping them from really fucking you up afterwards?
if it is some type of military dictatorship then they can and if the people don't have any unity

Let's say the government targeted a particular group for ethnic cleansing or genocide. If they have guns then they will be able to defend themselves if they united and if such a situation arises then they will unite and fight the oppressing forces. Do you think military can just go and bomb entire neighborhoods? That will turn everyone against the authorities and most likely start a revolution which will lead to overthrow of the government.
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Default1234
02/24/20 3:28:46 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
beneficial if you think a higher murder rate is beneficial
so allow yourself to be bullied and do nothing?
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modena
02/24/20 3:33:38 PM
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Everytime these topics pop up I think to myself...man I'm sure glad I didnt have to get too close to that Cottonmouth to kill it >.>

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Rika_Furude
02/24/20 4:40:30 PM
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Default1234 posted...
so allow yourself to be bullied and do nothing?
No. Vote the right people into government.

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Default1234
02/24/20 4:44:17 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
No. Vote the right people into government.
haha that won't change anything
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TheLastHero
02/24/20 5:48:07 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

If nobody else has guns, why would police need them?


Did we forget knives, tomahawks and other weapons exist or what
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meralonne
02/24/20 6:02:33 PM
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<img src="//:0">Came to topic expecting to see bear arms.

Leaving disappointed.

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Altacct
02/24/20 6:03:58 PM
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Either no one should have a gun or everyone should, no in between

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/20 6:04:36 PM
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TheLastHero posted...
Did we forget knives, tomahawks and other weapons exist or what
Then the cops learn the way of the blade.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
02/24/20 6:25:31 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
No. Vote the right people into government.
It must be so nice to live in fantasy land, sorry but your kind of thinking is how things got to be this bad for honest citizens who want to defend themselves against the criminals who never follow any laws.

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meralonne
02/24/20 6:44:52 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
It must be so nice to live in fantasy land, sorry but your kind of thinking is how things got to be this bad for honest citizens who want to defend themselves against the criminals who never follow any laws.

Speaking of fantasy land, you live on the flip side of the coin. Get shot at frequently, do we? Need to repel borders regularly as part of your local militia?


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WafflehouseJK
02/24/20 6:47:05 PM
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What about Lion and Tiger arms?

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Rika_Furude
02/24/20 8:24:12 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
It must be so nice to live in fantasy land, sorry but your kind of thinking is how things got to be this bad for honest citizens who want to defend themselves against the criminals who never follow any laws.
And yet the evidence shows you are safer in countries with gun control laws as opposed to america with its gun grab bag. Lower murder rates and all.

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Default1234
02/24/20 8:25:37 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
And yet the evidence shows you are safer in countries with gun control laws as opposed to america with its gun grab bag. Lower murder rates and all.
not true
Brazil is good example. They have gun control and more murders than the US.
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meralonne
02/25/20 9:48:11 PM
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Default1234 posted...
Brazil is good example. They have gun control and more murders than the US.

Were comparing ourselves to Brazil now?

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AbbyMar71n
02/25/20 9:50:36 PM
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FrankGoreHOF posted...
Sounds like the first line of a 5th grade essay


True. You need at least a 5th grade education to understand why the right to own guns is necessary to combat tyranny.
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SeveredThumb
02/25/20 10:05:12 PM
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Altacct posted...
Either no one should have a gun or everyone should, no in between
Why bring up something that may never happen? Wars occur all the time. Good luck saying that in no man's land. Also, they can ban guns all they want; there are still ways to obtain them illegally. It just leaves civilians at a huge disadvantage.

The gun itself isn't the problem, it's the wielder; the "assault rifle" doesn't do the "assaulting". Thus, what I'm ultimately getting at is that if any buyer wants to purchase a gun, then they must have a clean criminal record.

Shootings all have a reason, and one of those reasons is to get your face out there. To prevent shootings, all records of shootings should be kept as a quiet as possible and the suspect to never be displayed on any kind of news whatsoever.

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meralonne
02/25/20 10:48:00 PM
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AbbyMar71n posted...
True. You need at least a 5th grade education to understand why the right to own guns is necessary to combat tyranny.

So why arent you using them to depose the current tyrant?

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AbbyMar71n
02/25/20 10:49:47 PM
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meralonne posted...


So why arent you using them to depose the current tyrant?


You do know that winning the popular vote doesnt make Hillary President, right?
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meralonne
02/25/20 11:06:47 PM
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AbbyMar71n posted...
You do know that winning the popular vote doesnt make Hillary President, right?

What the fuck does Hillary Clinton have to do with a Trump acting like a tyrant?

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AbbyMar71n
02/25/20 11:07:44 PM
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meralonne posted...


What the fuck does Hillary Clinton have to do with a Trump acting like a tyrant?


Trump isnt taking away my guns tho.
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meralonne
02/25/20 11:10:27 PM
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AbbyMar71n posted...
Trump isnt taking away my guns tho.

So youre okay with tyranny, just as long as you like the tyrant. Very patriotic of you. Carry on.

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