Current Events > OMG I cannot stand parents who cannot tame their unruly children

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Barber102 posted...

im not trolling in the slightest. My wife used to work for child protective services regardless of what you believe to be the case, it can be considered abuse. If you send your child to their room for more than an hour that is considered neglect, if you put them in the corner it is considered mental abuse.

unless you have a damn clue shut the fuck up and dont call people trolls when you litterally do not know shit. Whether it is actual abuse or not does not matter to the courts, or cps. Cps has deemed it as abuse.

lmfao yeah okay bub.

eston posted...

not believable in the slightest

Barber102 posted...

What are we supposed to just beat our children then? Ya thats against the law, and also a shitty thing to do and unfortunately some kids dont listen no matter what the parents do so suck it up and mind youre own damn business.

intolerant dipshits who dont have kids and likely never will acting like its the parents fault. You know fuck all. The best we as parents can do is take away our kids toys, you cant put a child in a corner thats abuse, you cant send them to their rooms thats abuse, you can raise your voice but that makes you look like an asshole and also does not accomplish anything.

so tc what are we supposed to do hmm?

Leave.

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eston posted...

Yeah sorry but this is not believable in the slightest

when you yell or threaten or impose timeouts or deprive your children of things they enjoy, your children they a) feel resentful and b) stop communicating. They stop telling you things you should know, they lie to escape punishment, their self-esteem suffers they act out more. And those core needs? Theyre still not being met.

All punishments are ineffective, because the vast majority of kids dont misbehave they behave. They behave like kids. They dont do things to be bad, they do things because those things are age appropriate, or because theyre still learning, or because theyre not getting some basic need met. Maybe they are hungry or tired? maybe they are overstimulated or overwhelmed? maybe they need a hug. Or maybe they just dont know how to process whatever emotion theyre feeling.

The more you use punishments to respond to behavior, the more you are actually escalating behavior and creating a reality where you have more behavior problems. it takes the core need of the child and uses it as a bargaining chip. A child has a lot of core needs, one of the most vital is emotional attachment parents sacrifice this when they place their kids in timeouts.

its damn hard to be a parent, I have two children one has developmental delays and is a real hair puller at times you dont know struggle. But punishments have never worked with my kids.

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Yeah I have a kid too and what you described in the post I responded to is not abuse

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eston posted...

Yeah I have a kid too and what you described in the post I responded to is not abuse

it most certainly can be. It not always is but if you do any of the following it certainly is, If you yell at your child in an angry voice and threaten to put them in timeout that is abuse, if they have a specific spot away from you that is abuse, if you refuse to interact with your child while in timeout it is abuse, mental abuse and neglect. If you physically move your child to timeout that is physical abuse. I could go on but im not going too Ive said enough and am tired of being called a troll for simply knowing better due to being married to a cps worker and having friends who are child pyschologists due to that fact.

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Barber102 posted...

its damn hard to be a parent

only thing we can agree on.

Dude just stop, you don't know what you're talking about

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eston posted...

Dude just stop, you don't know what you're talking about

the worst thing about this statement is it is completely the opposite. Dont believe me? Call your local cps and ask them yourself.

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It's hilarious when people try to act like experts on things that even someone with a passing knowledge of can see right through

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eston posted...

Yeah sorry but this is not believable in the slightest

This

eston posted...

It's hilarious when people try to act like experts on things that even someone with a passing knowledge of can see right through

its hilarious when people shrug off knowledge simply because they dont want to admit they maybe wrong and actually harming their kids.

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That doesn't sound hilarious but you do you

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So I asked my wife about the cps claims myself. Shes a social worker and has worked at a womens and family shelter and whos worked with cps her entire career and she said the idea of timeout and sending your kid to their room for bad behavior is bullshit and your wife would be fired from cps if she ever told any parents that. Js.

Aka its not illegal and CPS would never say it was.

everyone without kids knows nothing and should shut the fuck up. And barber102 is just laughably incorrect about child protective services.

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General rule of thumb on the internet is that if someone claims that "my wife/mom/sibling/roommate is a *insert profession* so I know a thing or two about it" and then posts an entire goddamn lecture on the subject then they are almost certainly full of shit

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radical rhino posted...

everyone without kids knows nothing and should shut the fuck up. And barber102 is just laughably incorrect about child protective services.

all of this smh

"You don't have kids so you don't know and have no room to talk"

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radical rhino posted...

everyone without kids knows nothing and should shut the fuck up. And barber102 is just laughably incorrect about child protective services.

Lel

We know more than enough.

Being a parent doesnt make you better than anyone else.

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"You don't play football so you're not allowed to criticize the sport"

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Veggeta X posted...

"You don't have kids so you don't know and have no room to talk"

I wouldn't go that far, but people without kids lack a lot of perspective on how raising them actually works

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Hinakuluiau posted...

In my experience, it's the parents faults.
Kids cry most of the time because they're hungry or tired. You can fix this by making sure they're fed and not running errands with them for hours at a time

Thats only true for infants. Also poopy diaper.

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Please block me again hairistotle

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One thing a parent could do is take the crying kid outside and calm them down.

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Frosted_Midna posted...

One thing a parent could do is take the crying kid outside and calm them down.

@Barber102 Is this also child abuse?

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Frosted_Midna posted...

take the crying kid outside

PHYSlCAL ABUSE!

*charges his batteries*

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He probably won't be back

lol

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I grabbed my kid and moved him away from car that was about to hit him.

Now I am in prison for child abuse because I abused my child by moving him without his consent.

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My daughter is usually pretty good in stores, and I'm not taking her anywhere fancy or were the expectation is silence or whatever. I get that sometimes a kid will just randomly act up and start screaming or something, and you may not be able to instantly silence them, but yeah, just... get out ASAP. I've been lucky and never really had to do anything other than hurry a little because I can sense a breakdown is coming, but I've avoided them in public so far. But yeah I don't get the people that just slowly continue on their way with a child screaming, or what is probably even worse is when the parent just starts yelling at the kid for 20 minutes and its way worse than hearing a little kid cry.

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Those kids crying and complaining about everything, grow up to be adults that go online to cry and complain about everything.

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emblem boy posted...

I mean, isn't that kinda part of having a kid.
Kids cry and there's only so much you can do at times.

Nah, my brother and I weren't shitheads, we respected our parents because they had control over us, unlike the kinds of parents that let their kids cry and moan.

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Wonder if there's a study that measures how well a kid grew up vs how much rough parent handling they received?

The Top Crusader posted...

My daughter is usually pretty good in stores, and I'm not taking her anywhere fancy or were the expectation is silence or whatever. I get that sometimes a kid will just randomly act up and start screaming or something, and you may not be able to instantly silence them, but yeah, just... get out ASAP. I've been lucky and never really had to do anything other than hurry a little because I can sense a breakdown is coming, but I've avoided them in public so far. But yeah I don't get the people that just slowly continue on their way with a child screaming, or what is probably even worse is when the parent just starts yelling at the kid for 20 minutes and its way worse than hearing a little kid cry.

i think its because they got shit to do. Most people cant just drop what they are doing and abandon their responsibilities because their kid is complaining. also, giving in to the tantrums where the kid doesnt get their way and melts down is enabling behavior.

something to also keep in mind is that at a certain age the kid doesnt just cry because their needs arent being met. At a certain point the kid realizes they can try and be manipulative to get what they want. A lot of public tantrums are basically I want this give me this.

I personally blame the stores and the consumerist culture we live in for literally everytime my kid has made a ruckus in public. They put candy and branded shit all over the place. A store with a kid is basically boobytrapped with triggers

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josifrees posted...

I personally blame the stores and the consumerist culture we live in for literally everytime my kid has made a ruckus in public. They put candy and branded shit all over the place. A store with a kid is basically boobytrapped with triggers

This triggers me greatly.

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What grinds my gears is when they do that counting shit. "1...2...2 and a half..." and whenever they get passed that, they just tell them to stop in a even louder voice or don't anything at all.

No half measures. Just punish them on the spot.

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SocksForWok999 posted...

Why we need more reproduction laws...

CE, everyone

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josifrees posted...

I personally blame the stores and the consumerist culture we live in for literally everytime my kid has made a ruckus in public. They put candy and branded shit all over the place. A store with a kid is basically boobytrapped with triggers

Every checkout is a candy isle. It's sadistic. I always thought it was for adults with bad impulse control tho. Either way it's predatory tactics.

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kinetika_ posted...

Nah, my brother and I weren't shitheads, we respected our parents because they had control over us, unlike the kinds of parents that let their kids cry and moan.

I absolutely guarantee that your parents remember it differently than you do, lol

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pikachupwnage posted...

I grabbed my kid and moved him away from car that was about to hit him.

Now I am in prison for child abuse because I abused my child by moving him without his consent.

you son of a bitch!

Weeziohead posted...

you son of a bitch!

Hope he kids the chair tbh, I wouldn't shed a tear. Not only did he abuse his kid, but he's forcing choices on him. If his kid wanted to be hit by a car, he should just let his kid express himself as he wants.

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I was spanked, punished, grounded, sent to my room, yelled at when I misbehaved and I turned into a well adjusted functioning successful adult.

Kids these days are such entitled little shits and their parents give them everything they want because it's easier than actually disciplining them. Lazy parenting tbqh.

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