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Cotton_Eye_Joe 02/10/20 1:42:34 PM #1: |
Why do game developers think "hm let's just make the player get into a bunch of battles in order to make it through the field/dungeon" rather than actually scale the difficulty of the game appropriately.
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Smackems 02/10/20 1:43:52 PM #2: |
Probably started with memory issues.
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Shablagoo 02/10/20 1:44:04 PM #3: |
I think they should be much more varied and less frequent. I thought the random encounters in Fallout 3 added to the experience but in, say, Dragons Dogma, they definitely detracted from it.
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Questionmarktarius 02/10/20 1:45:21 PM #4: |
Resource management is the difficulty, or something like that.
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Cotton_Eye_Joe 02/10/20 1:46:30 PM #5: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Resource management is the difficulty, or something like that.Earthbound was amazing. If you were decently leveled, you didn't have to worry about encounters. --- Stop telling me to get games I already own!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/10/20 1:47:20 PM #6: |
Short answer is all the early video game RPGs tried to emulate D&D which had random encounter tables for traveling long distances and the trope stuck as it carried on to later installments
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kirbymuncher 02/10/20 1:47:53 PM #7: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Resource management is the difficultythis also I don't really think earthbound style of enemy visible on map is significantly better than random encounters. whether the enemy shows up or not is random and you very rarely can even avoid them in the first place based on level design so it's not that much different --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charey 02/10/20 1:49:27 PM #8: |
Shablagoo posted...
I think they should be much more varied and less frequent. I thought the random encounters in Fallout 3 added to the experience but in, say, Dragons Dogma, they definitely detracted from it.Dragons Dogma doesnt have random encounters, every monster is set and takes a certain amount of time to respawn. --- I won't have it! I'm not having anyone talk about me in the past tense! ~Squall Leonhart ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 02/10/20 1:51:07 PM #9: |
kirbymuncher posted...
and you very rarely can even avoid them in the first place based on level design so it's not that much differentI see you also played the DQ7 3DS remake. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 02/10/20 2:01:06 PM #10: |
Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...
Why do game developers think "hm let's just make the player get into a bunch of battles in order to make it through the field/dungeon" rather than actually scale the difficulty of the game appropriately. Because otherwise the field/dungeon has... puzzles? Or something? Fighting through the field/dungeon is the entire point. You can make it random or you can make it sprites you interact with, but at the end of the day you're still doing some encounters within a given space unless there's a significant distract/avoid mechanism. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/10/20 2:04:13 PM #11: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Short answer is all the early video game RPGs tried to emulate D&D which had random encounter tables for traveling long distances and the trope stuck as it carried on to later installmentsThis was always my understanding, along with things like displaying character health/magic as numbers. It was just an attempt to adapt those games to a different medium, and it stuck --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 02/10/20 2:04:29 PM #12: |
There are a few spots in Chrono Trigger you have to pass through often that have reoccurring set battles against weak enemies. I rather disliked that despite it not having random encounters. I think modern Dragon Quest games have done an excellent job with their battle encounter system.
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Questionmarktarius 02/10/20 2:05:01 PM #13: |
A RPG that's nothing but caves and bossfights just seems like the opposite of fun.
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Shablagoo 02/10/20 2:37:43 PM #14: |
charey posted...
Dragons Dogma doesnt have random encounters, every monster is set and takes a certain amount of time to respawn. Ah, fair enough. I dislike that even more than the worst random-encounter systems. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLastHero 02/10/20 2:39:56 PM #15: |
Because without random encounters, dumb gamers like yourself would just avoid every enemy and wonder why they can't defeat a boss with 80 HP
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Lost_All_Senses 02/10/20 2:41:25 PM #16: |
Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...
Earthbound was amazing. I feel like Earthbounds lack of immediate impact stopped it from creating new standards that were way better than it's competitors. I still don't understand why no one jocked the "rolling HP" thing. That shits genius. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 02/10/20 2:43:11 PM #17: |
It still works in DnD games like Etrian Odyssey. Also works for Pokemon too.
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Lunar_Savage 02/10/20 2:45:53 PM #18: |
eston posted...
This was always my understanding, along with things like displaying character health/magic as numbers. It was just an attempt to adapt those games to a different medium, and it stuck Tack on the added benefit of adding hours played to a game thus increasing the value (to a point, eventually this hits diminishing returns that then becomes a negative) of the game, and bam... Random encounters and lots of grinding! On the flip side, requiring grinding and offering random encounters also allows players more freedom and control in the challenge of the experience they have. --- Number of Mega Cookies given: (::::) 29 *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with a cane.* And yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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