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Antifar
02/02/20 4:16:15 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476

Former Secretary of State John Kerry one of Joe Biden's highest-profile endorsers was overheard Sunday on the phone at a Des Moines hotel explaining what he would have to do to enter the presidential race amid "the possibility of Bernie Sanders taking down the Democratic Party down whole."

Sitting in the lobby restaurant of the Renaissance Savery hotel, Kerry was overheard by an NBC News analyst saying "maybe I'm fucking deluding myself here" and explaining that in order to run, he'd have to step down from the board of Bank of America and give up his ability to make paid speeches. Kerry said donors like venture capitalist Doug Hickey would have to "raise a couple of million," adding that such donors "now have the reality of Bernie."

Asked about the call later on Sunday, Kerry said that he was "absolutely not" contemplating joining the Democratic primary race.

Its not clear how serious Kerry was on the call about jumping into the race. But that he would even discuss the possibility suggests that prominent members of the Democratic Party remain deeply unsettled by the current field, Sanders' strength in the polls, and the ability of any candidate to defeat President Donald Trump.

It also suggests that Kerry, who has campaigned with Biden in Iowa and New Hampshire, may be nervous about the former vice president's chances ahead of Monday's first-in-the-nation primary caucuses. At a North Liberty, Iowa, campaign event on Saturday, Kerry spoke both after and for longer than Biden did.

Kerry was the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, losing to President George W. Bush. He got 251 electoral votes, compared to Bush's 286.

Kerry has served as one of the former vice president's top surrogates in the 2020 race. Biden holds a less than 4-point lead over Sanders in the RealClearPolitics average of national Democratic primary polls but trails the Vermont senator in the Iowa and New Hampshire polling averages.

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ScazarMeltex
02/02/20 4:17:55 PM
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Man they really scared shitless of Bernie getting the nom.

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K181
02/02/20 4:17:59 PM
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I'm sure that a BoA board member running would be super popular with the Dem base.

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Zikten
02/02/20 4:19:50 PM
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I thought it was too late to enter
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Chad-Henne
02/02/20 4:21:28 PM
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Fuparulez
02/02/20 4:21:52 PM
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Zikten posted...
I thought it was too late to enter

Yes and no. It's not too late to get on the ballot in SOME states, but since the deadline has already passed in California among other states, there's no path for a Democrat entering the race now to actually win. The deadline for Texas has passed as well, so there's no way for somebody to primary Trump at this point either.

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FursonaNonGrata
02/02/20 4:22:07 PM
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What the fuck is wrong with these people

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Garioshi
02/02/20 4:24:27 PM
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Oh yeah, I bet the guy who couldn't beat George fucking Bush is gonna take out Trump.

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Antifar
02/02/20 4:24:56 PM
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Fuparulez posted...


Yes and no. It's not too late to get on the ballot in SOME states, but since the deadline has already passed in California among other states, there's no path for a Democrat entering the race now to actually win. The deadline for Texas has passed as well, so there's no way for somebody to primary Trump at this point either.

He'd be angling to end up the winner of a brokered convention
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Skye Reynolds
02/02/20 4:28:21 PM
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Please, no.
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SmidgeIsntBack
02/02/20 4:29:39 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Oh yeah, I bet the guy who couldn't beat George fucking Bush is gonna take out Trump.

It's increasingly clear that it's not about beating Trump, it's about not letting Bernie win.

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ScazarMeltex
02/02/20 4:38:04 PM
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Fuparulez posted...
Yes and no. It's not too late to get on the ballot in SOME states, but since the deadline has already passed in California among other states, there's no path for a Democrat entering the race now to actually win. The deadline for Texas has passed as well, so there's no way for somebody to primary Trump at this point either.
Yeah it's more about diluting the amount of delegates people can get so they can't get a clear winner on the first ballot, then they can give it to whomever they want in a brokered convention.

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Sexypwnstar
02/02/20 4:38:06 PM
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How would this hurt Bernie? Wouldn't it hurt Biden?

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YellowSUV
02/02/20 4:38:24 PM
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How about the guy who lost to George W. Bush stays away.

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SauI_Goodman
02/02/20 4:39:12 PM
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Lmao forever the guy who literally lost to bush

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TheMikh
02/02/20 4:39:53 PM
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dude's a warmonger, he needs to go away

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Antifar
02/02/20 4:41:34 PM
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Damn, they're really bringing out the big guns
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/01/bernie-sanders-iowa-democrats-martin-omalley?CMP=share_btn_tw
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Fuparulez
02/02/20 4:47:50 PM
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metallica846 posted...
Were you even alive when that election happened? Bush was considered a god in this country in 2004 and Kerry still made a run at him. Post 9/11 US was a highly scarred country and 2004 wasn't far enough removed from the attacks. This country was still scared shitless.

Were YOU? WTF are you talking about? The Democrats and the media were in full scale attack Bush mode by 2004 and Kerry was expected to win!

https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/20/pelosi.bush/
Pelosi questions Bush's competence
Friday, May 21, 2004

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/05/how-bush-chose-stupidity.html
How Bush chose stupidity.
MAY 07, 2004

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/how-kerry-can-win/
John Kerry can win, given George W. Bush's incompetence
JULY 15, 2004

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/10/bushs-lost-year/303507/
Bush's Lost Year
OCTOBER 2004

The way you remember history my dude... it's just not the way things happened.

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Doom_Art
02/02/20 4:59:45 PM
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Ah yes John Kerry

The only Democrat who's lost the popular vote in the last 30 years

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