Current Events > i went to an mtv gig tonight and ppl went crazy for a billie eilish song

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Parappa09
01/28/20 6:10:04 PM
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i think u guys underestimate her

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eston
01/28/20 6:11:11 PM
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SuperExcitebike
01/28/20 6:48:09 PM
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I might like her when she matures. Her brother's production is good, but her deep "sbeve" music made for middle school kids ain't doin it for me. I definitely preferred the fun Lorde debut

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Smashingpmkns
01/28/20 6:51:03 PM
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I went to a festival last year and her crowd was definitely the largest out of the popular performers. She's a good performer too tbh.
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Rain_Dust
01/28/20 6:53:41 PM
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She will die off soon enough. Like all the other 1 hit wonder grammy winners in the past decade.

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I Like Toast
01/28/20 6:59:33 PM
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I enjoy her
https://www.last.fm/user/I_Like_Toast/library/music/Billie+Eilish

Ce always hates popular things.

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Gobstoppers12
01/28/20 7:00:07 PM
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She's pretty great. I never understood that "hate it because it's popular" mentality.

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viewmaster_pi
01/28/20 7:01:43 PM
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People don't hate things for being popular, they hate things for being popular while worse than better things that don't get recognition at all.

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Gobstoppers12
01/28/20 7:04:24 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
People don't hate things for being popular, they hate things for being popular while worse than better things that don't get recognition at all.
In general, I don't see people saying "Billie Eilish isn't as good as X band/performer who should be popular and isn't,"

I see people saying "Billie Eilish is trash, she's an industry plant, she can't sing, she's dumb, she's X, Y, Z negative thing"

People hate things for being popular. It's just a thing that happens.

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I Like Toast
01/28/20 7:07:17 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
People don't hate things for being popular, they hate things for being popular while worse than better things that don't get recognition at all.
Like gobstopper said, if it was about a similar artist you think is better. Talk about that artist. That's how bands get popular, by people sharing what they like.

You don't need to tear down to build up someone else, a concept the unsufferables can't figure out.

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viewmaster_pi
01/28/20 7:07:51 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
In general, I don't see people saying "Billie Eilish isn't as good as X band/performer who should be popular and isn't,"
that's because no one talks that way, no one's going to compare billie eilish to aerosmith or something, they'll just say she's trash or what have you.

every single bit of disdain people have for popular things comes from them being overrated, which obviously overlaps with being popular. it's not just music, either

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I Like Toast
01/28/20 7:08:55 PM
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Ah yes, unknown artist Aerosmith never gets attention

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Gobstoppers12
01/28/20 7:10:52 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...


every single bit of disdain people have for popular things comes from them being overrated

Why is it worth being so bent out of shape over that? So a lot of people love an artist that somebody else thinks is "just okay." What's the rationale for launching a long, persistent hate campaign against that artist? It's not a healthy way to view the world.

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viewmaster_pi
01/28/20 7:13:09 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Ah yes, unknown artist Aerosmith never gets attention
i just thought of another grammy winner as an example, no need to be insufferable and sarcastic

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viewmaster_pi
01/28/20 7:13:54 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Why is it worth being so bent out of shape over that? So a lot of people love an artist that somebody else thinks is "just okay." What's the rationale for launching a long, persistent hate campaign against that artist? It's not a healthy way to view the world.
idk, i don't think anyone does that

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Gobstoppers12
01/28/20 7:14:32 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
i don't think anyone does that

...Then why are you commenting on the issue as if you're familiar with it? People absolutely do that. Just look at Nickelback.

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KillerSlaw
01/28/20 7:15:45 PM
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That bad guy song seems like it'd be good in a John Wick shootout tbqh

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viewmaster_pi
01/28/20 7:18:00 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
...Then why are you commenting on the issue as if you're familiar with it? People absolutely do that. Just look at Nickelback.
because i am familiar with it, and you're being dramatic; no one's launching a hate campaign, they just have a strong opinion. personally i think she's fine, but bad guy in particular is just l a z y as fuck.

regarding nickelback, it's how people are. it's the funny "bad band" to make jokes about. it's a herd mentality, not genuine hate. look at the jokes about coldplay being "gay" after stepbrothers came out.

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Gobstoppers12
01/28/20 7:22:24 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
because i am familiar with it
How can you be familiar with the toxicity inherent to music culture and fandoms, yet also say tone-deaf things like:

viewmaster_pi posted...
idk, i don't think anyone does that

You're sanitizing the culture because you're a part of it. I'm not attacking you, directly, as a human being, but if you're defending the people who are blatantly hateful toward a 16/17/18 year old girl strictly because she's popular...well, I don't think you and I see things on the same level.

You can have your view on things, but I don't have to agree with it or approve of your position. There is very real hatred present in almost any anti-fandom.

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viewmaster_pi
01/28/20 7:28:09 PM
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oh my god, the daytime emmy goes to Gobstoppers12 for best drama

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Parappa09
01/30/20 3:25:27 AM
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eston posted...
Popular music is popular

I Like Toast posted...
Ce always hates popular things.
i still can't get over that even when someone is widely popular, wins awards and is credited by strong reviews, it's still a no-go

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Parappa09
01/30/20 3:26:51 AM
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I Like Toast posted...
https://www.last.fm/user/I_Like_Toast/library/music/Billie+Eilish
also

Your compatibility with I_Like_Toast is Super.
You both listen to Billie Eilish, Ariana Grande and Charli XCX.

not that the last.fm matching system is perfect

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Malfunction
01/30/20 3:27:08 AM
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she is like the perfect storm of what straight white guys on the internet hate: a young woman who makes slightly out there, non-rock music

i thought her album was pretty decent. haven't returned to it or anything but it was good enough. her singles have generally been p good although i think parts of them don't suit 'radio' play if that makes sense
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Parappa09
01/30/20 3:30:33 AM
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Malfunction posted...
she is like the perfect storm of what straight white guys on the internet hate: a young woman who makes slightly out there, non-rock music
i'd say she's second to lizzo

i never knew she garnered so much vitrol from that demographic

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Malfunction
01/30/20 3:32:40 AM
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lol yeah lizzo has prob surpassed her recently. over the last 12-18 months tho it's definitely billie eilish
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