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Bass_X0
01/14/20 3:53:46 PM
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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/transgender-woman-sent-mens-prison-17565009

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Machete
01/14/20 3:54:18 PM
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Yikes wtf
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KillerKhan420
01/14/20 3:56:41 PM
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Yeah and? They've sent them to female prison before and guess what happened?

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GREEN_EGGSNSPAM
01/14/20 3:57:26 PM
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don't drop the soap

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Duncanwii
01/14/20 3:57:49 PM
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Idiots. Those murderers and rapists arent going to care about "genetics" or "chromosomes" they are just going to see a woman. Your setting her up yo get raped and or murdered.

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BettyWhite
01/14/20 3:59:28 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Idiots. Those murderers and rapists arent going to care about "genetics" or Chromosomes" they are going to see a woman. Your setting her up yo get murdered.

I don't think anyone's looking at her and thinking she's a woman.

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eston
01/14/20 4:09:49 PM
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Gobstoppers12
01/14/20 4:11:13 PM
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This topic would benefit from having the mugshot directly linked in the OP

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brestugo
01/14/20 4:14:45 PM
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Post 8 could have been worded better but was still funny.

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Bass_X0
01/14/20 4:16:06 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
This topic would benefit from having the mugshot directly linked in the OP

I didnt want to offend.

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Feetish
01/14/20 4:21:54 PM
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NathanX95 posted...
That's not a woman, not would any guy ever confuse [redacted] for one.


Prepare for a lifetime ban.

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ColdOne666
01/14/20 4:23:17 PM
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Fair, Next.

Dont be a criminal.
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PIITB415
01/14/20 4:24:01 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
Yeah and? They've sent them to female prison before and guess what happened?

This. Lots of rape in case no one knew.

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creativerealms
01/14/20 4:26:58 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
Yeah and? They've sent them to female prison before and guess what happened?
You mean the rapist? Is this person also a rapist? Honestly rapists should be separate from the rest of the prisoners or of course they will rape again.

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creativerealms
01/14/20 4:27:35 PM
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PIITB415 posted...
This. Lots of rape in case no one knew.
Yeah. A person arrested for rape kept raping. People are trying to apply the rape happened because she was transgendered and not because she was a rapist.

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MabusIncarnate
01/14/20 4:28:20 PM
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In theory, and I'm not trying to stir something up but I'm sure I'll get blasted for this anyway, but what keeps me, a male, from committing a serious crime and just flat out say "I'm a woman, I identify as a woman" to try and avoid going to male prison? What is the actual determining factor here? What legally states when you can officially be recognized as another gender under the law system or is it a gray area?

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lolife67
01/14/20 4:30:07 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
In theory, and I'm not trying to stir something up but I'm sure I'll get blasted for this anyway, but what keeps me, a male, from committing a serious crime and just flat out say "I'm a woman, I identify as a woman" to try and avoid going to male prison? What is the actual determining factor here? What legally states when you can officially be recognized as another gender under the law system or is it a gray area?
I would say that it depends on your level of transition. Simply saying you identify as female wouldn't mean much if you're still dressing like a male and haven't taken any hormones/had surgery to alter your body.
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WashYourHands
01/14/20 4:30:56 PM
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Feetish posted...
Prepare for a lifetime ban.
post deleted with no karma loss is my bet

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Feetish
01/14/20 4:34:18 PM
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WashYourHands posted...
post deleted with no karma loss is my bet

I was joking.

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chrono625
01/14/20 4:37:23 PM
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lolife67 posted...
I would say that it depends on your level of transition. Simply saying you identify as female wouldn't mean much if you're still dressing like a male and haven't taken any hormones/had surgery to alter your body.

Or you can prove that you've been identifying as a gender for x amount of time.

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lolife67
01/14/20 4:54:39 PM
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chrono625 posted...
Or you can prove that you've been identifying as a gender for x amount of time.
This too.
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Dark_SilverX
01/14/20 4:55:28 PM
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It looks like he'll fit right in.

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brestugo
01/14/20 4:56:11 PM
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WashYourHands posted...
post deleted with no karma loss is my bet
I'll bet Warned.

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Mr_Rian
01/14/20 5:03:53 PM
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brestugo posted...
I'll bet Warned.
Nope. It was an NKL.

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Vicious_Dios
01/15/20 8:56:33 PM
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Bahahaha! Fair, next.

Maybe don't fucking steal shit that isn't yours and perhaps you won't end up getting incarcerated.

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gamer167
01/15/20 9:01:02 PM
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A trans person going to male prison is a losing situation no matter if its MtF or FtM.

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evil_zombie11
01/15/20 9:02:05 PM
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Omg just throwing them to the sharks

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Gamerguymass
01/15/20 9:02:28 PM
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WashYourHands posted...
post deleted with no karma loss is my bet

Not whole heartedly agreeing with anything transgender, I don't mean insulting, but simply disagreeing gets you warned on this site. A warning is essentially a three day suspension.

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Umbreon
01/15/20 9:05:33 PM
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Topic about a trans person has several deleted posts, why am I not surprised?

Even less surprised that certainly tagged users are supporting this.

But yeah, I get the feeling that whatever happens is "Working as intended" for the people who made this possible.

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Umbreon
01/15/20 9:07:52 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Not whole heartedly agreeing with anything transgender, I don't mean insulting, but simply disagreeing gets you warned.


The vast majority of transgender comments there get deleted is due to the being blatantly transphobic. There is seldom mere disagreement.

Unless by "disagreement" you mean "I disagree that trans people should be treated like people", which is what the gist of quite a few(deleted) comments I've witnessed over the past year or so.


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VandorLee
01/15/20 9:16:33 PM
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TC: Got em.

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Dragonblade01
01/15/20 9:19:24 PM
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But hey, as long as we get to keep treating criminals as subhuman scum, right?
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Gamerguymass
01/15/20 9:21:51 PM
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Umbreon posted...
The vast majority of transgender comments there get deleted is due to the being blatantly transphobic. There is seldom mere disagreement.

Unless by "disagreement" you mean "I disagree that trans people should be treated like people", which is what the gist of quite a few(deleted) comments I've witnessed over the past year or so.

Not true at all. You just assume that because the post was deleted. I'm not saying there aren't any insulting posts, but to claim every single modded post is justified is laughable. I was once warned (aka suspended) because I gave the definitions of two words. I literally just said historically these two words have meant the same thing. That's it. I was warned and told not to be transphobic. Even though I never mentioned trans people, let alone gave an opinion one way or the other. Understanding the English language is a warnable offense apparently.

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Sayoria
01/15/20 9:24:38 PM
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I am curious to what every one of you would designate here in this situation.

I am a post-op transwoman. Breasts and neovagina. On hormones.

In the situation that say, I wanted to "revert back" and my transition is and had been completed.... and I start living as a guy from this point on. I have breast surgery to undo the breasts, but the neovagina is irreversible. Where should I go if I was actively taking male hormones and reverse-transitioning after committing a crime? On top of that, similar for trans men, because these issues are never addressed with trans men brought into the picture.

Genuinely curious. In these two scenarios, who should go where? In your opinions.

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VandorLee
01/15/20 9:26:30 PM
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Just say the correct answer so people can agree and not get modded.


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Music_Rock_Cat
01/15/20 9:27:29 PM
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Just put them in Protective Custody problem solved

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pass4tds
01/15/20 9:31:48 PM
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All the Trumpets running for a safe space. Afraid the big bad woman gunna get them lol. Pathetic.

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viewmaster_pi
01/15/20 9:32:09 PM
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Sayoria posted...
neovagina
is that the undertale sans song

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VandorLee
01/15/20 9:33:24 PM
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pass4tds posted...
All the Trumpets running for a safe space. Afraid the big bad woman gunna get them lol. Pathetic.

Youll have them modded if they respond so....yeah.

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Umbreon
01/16/20 12:43:54 AM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Not true at all. You just assume that because the post was deleted. I'm not saying there aren't any insulting posts, but to claim every single modded post is justified is laughable.

Good thing I never claimed that.

Gamerguymass posted...
I was once warned (aka suspended) because I gave the definitions of two words. I literally just said historically these two words have meant the same thing. That's it.

This isn't the full context. If one of those words were considered a slur, I can see a suspension being justified.

That's not to say you actually did such a thing.

Sayoria posted...
Genuinely curious. In these two scenarios, who should go where? In your opinions.


Hrm. A transwoman who wants to revert back is certainly not a common scenario. I can see potential issues either way.

Putting you in the women's jail in this scenario because the reverse transitioning into a man isn't complete seems like intentional misgendering ("You don't count if you can't pass!")

On the other hand, putting you in the men's jail while you're in the middle of transitioning poses it's own set of potential issues. Being an inmate with female genitalia in a men's prison poses the obvious risk. Some could also argue(Though this would likely apply more for transmen) that being in the middle of reverse transitioning could just be an excuse to go to a jail of your preference.

I suppose it depends on how long until you're "legally" considered the gender you're (reverse) transitioning as, a subject I'm not educated enough on to answer.


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Blue_Dream87
01/16/20 12:46:31 AM
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God damn this topic getting nuked

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Keith_Valentine
01/16/20 1:04:46 AM
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In all likelihood, she will proly find a lover to protect her and be fine. Sorry to say but in my experience, she wouls probably end up being popular and sought after. Prisons are bastions of homosexuality and the dirty secret is a lot of sex is consensual. Its called 'gay for the stay'. So unless she catches the eye of a genuine psychopath predator; who ftr would probably be assigned a higher classification of holding. Meaning since she is in on theft charges etc. and its her first time in the joint (?) she will be separated from the lifers. The murderers, rapists and career criminals that are the most dangerous. Think of it as, High Side and Low Side. She will be on low side, assuming she doesnt outright PC up. (Protective custody) which is available to help vulnerable inmates.
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RoseIsHorriblle
01/16/20 1:08:54 AM
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He is definitely male here. Definitely a pre-surgery so he definitely has a dick and is still a man.
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Music_Rock_Cat
01/16/20 1:11:49 AM
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Find a lover in prison that would protect her? You realize if another inmate dates a pre-op transwoman out in the open yard, both of those inmates will be labeled and targeted.

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