Current Events > Iraq: "Please leave." United States: *smirks* "No."

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BlingBling22947
01/12/20 4:40:31 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/us-troops.html

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cmiller4642
01/12/20 4:41:22 PM
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It's okay to occupy another country because we're MURICA
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/12/20 4:43:18 PM
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Wasn't there some funny Iraq/Iran love circle about this?

Ill see what Tucker says

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UnfairRepresent
01/12/20 4:44:38 PM
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"We're here to take out that dictator and give you freedom"
"Thanks, can we be free now?"
".....No"
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Vicious_Dios
01/12/20 4:45:27 PM
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Good.

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King_Hutton
01/12/20 4:49:02 PM
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Were bringing democracy to Iraq!
*Iraq votes for the US to leave*
Not like that!

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BlingBling22947
01/13/20 7:13:50 PM
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Pretty sure that makes the United States a hostile occupying force.

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spudger
01/13/20 7:14:57 PM
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US: Burgessly
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UnfairRepresent
01/14/20 7:01:57 AM
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BlingBling22947 posted...
Pretty sure that makes the United States a hostile occupying force.

yup v_V
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TwoDoorPC
01/14/20 7:09:45 AM
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merica: everything will be fine. it is inevitable.

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ScazarMeltex
01/14/20 7:25:59 AM
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This should remind you that it was never about democracy.

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Blue_Dream87
01/14/20 8:10:33 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This should remind you that it was never about democracy.

It's never about democracy

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VTBM
01/14/20 8:22:43 AM
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We leave and someone else takes over. Nothing will change.

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NinjaBreakfast
01/14/20 8:23:12 AM
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Smirked quite Burgessly

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Ricemills
01/14/20 8:26:31 AM
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lol.
>" we'll take the troop home!"
> "good, we dont want them here. you'll be leaving now?"
> "well yes, but actually no."

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Solar_Crimson
01/14/20 8:30:01 AM
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VTBM posted...
We leave and someone else takes over. Nothing will change.
Well, if it happens, it happens. At least we'd be out of the equation.

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MachineJaipur
01/14/20 8:35:50 AM
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BlingBling22947 posted...
Pretty sure that makes the United States a hostile occupying force.
As opposed to a friendly, peaceful occupying force?
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Alpha218
01/14/20 9:07:08 AM
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I honestly dont get why the US cant withdraw and NATO troops come in to do the training the US does.

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UnfairRepresent
01/14/20 9:08:48 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...

As opposed to a friendly, peaceful occupying force?

Erm yeah

You act like peacekeeping isn't a real thing
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Ricemills
01/14/20 9:14:39 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
I honestly dont get why the US cant withdraw and NATO troops come in to do the training the US does.

are you being honest, tho?
pretty sure you can guess why.

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Alpha218
01/14/20 9:18:49 AM
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Heres the thing - the region is extremely volatile, and vacating without a backup plan (like what happened in Syria) is going to have some terrible consequences (speaking outside of US influence, ISIS having a resurgence is the biggest one).

I know there isnt much of an appetite for the other countries in NATO to send coalition soldiers, especially after Trump has shit on the alliance for so long, but nobody wants ISIS to come back. ISIS is so bad that you had countries like the US and Iran fighting on the same side to wipe them out.

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Ricemills
01/14/20 9:21:51 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Heres the thing - the region is extremely volatile, and vacating without a backup plan (like what happened in Syria) is going to have some terrible consequences (speaking outside of US influence, ISIS having a resurgence is the biggest one).

I know there isnt much of an appetite for the other countries in NATO to send coalition soldiers, especially after Trump has shit on the alliance for so long, but nobody wants ISIS to come back. ISIS is so bad that you had countries like the US and Iran fighting on the same side to wipe them out.

there you go.
you just made an analysis on why.
just be honest on yourself.

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UnfairRepresent
01/14/20 9:25:30 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Heres the thing - the region is extremely volatile, and vacating without a backup plan (like what happened in Syria) is going to have some terrible consequences (speaking outside of US influence, ISIS having a resurgence is the biggest one).

I know there isnt much of an appetite for the other countries in NATO to send coalition soldiers, especially after Trump has shit on the alliance for so long, but nobody wants ISIS to come back. ISIS is so bad that you had countries like the US and Iran fighting on the same side to wipe them out.

"We cant abide by a country's wishes because terrorism. Hands tied." is such a weak argument

Hell by that logic the UK never should have accepted US independence
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mooreandrew58
01/14/20 9:32:21 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"We cant abide by a country's wishes because terrorism. Hands tied." is such a weak argument

Hell by that logic the UK never should have accepted US independence

While i dont agree necessarily with remaining in a country that doesnt want us thats a poor argument. UK didnt except theirfore a war was fought and we forced them out. Also different in that we literally where part of the UK Iraq is its own country and we are just there. America can be dicks about a lot of things on a international level but we at least dont 100% take over the countries we go into.

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Alpha218
01/14/20 9:34:05 AM
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Bruh, leaving Iraq and having NATO come in would be abiding by their wishes. They dont dislike the training their army gets, they dislike that the US is using it as a staging ground for military attacks.

And they certainly dont want ISIS coming back.

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bover_87
01/14/20 9:34:20 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
While i dont agree necessarily with remaining in a country that doesnt want us thats a poor argument. UK didnt except theirfore a war was fought and we forced them out. Also different in that we literally where part of the UK Iraq is its own country and we are just there. America can be dicks about a lot of things on a international level but we at least dont 100% take over the countries we go into.
Please don't argue with UR, he posts what he posts purely to stir the pot.

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UnfairRepresent
01/14/20 9:34:26 AM
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"We dont take it over, we just forcefully occupy against your will"

Yeah , nothing like what China or Russia is doing no sir.

bullpies
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iPhone_7
01/14/20 9:36:03 AM
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We should withdraw and let whatever happens to Iraq happen.

But Isis will come back! - Try a better argument
*fast forward*
Isis has come back! - Try a better argument

Iraq is telling us to leave, lets leave.

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Alpha218
01/14/20 9:36:57 AM
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bover_87 posted...
Please don't argue with UR, he posts what he posts purely to stir the pot.
URs response doesnt even make sense. Im saying America should LEAVE. NATO does not represent American interests in anywhere close to the same way as the US military does.

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