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I Like Toast 01/10/20 4:46:47 PM #52: |
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1.) There is, you've been given them 2.) The reason you're ignorantly claiming that you can play them on a cheaper last gen console or on my pc So is it about the games like you tried to claim with Nintendo or is it about the console? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 4:48:30 PM #53: |
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Consoles have NEVER been the most power for your money. I highly doubt that will be starting here. The ps3 was literally the cheapest bluray player and was one of the cheapest ways to build super computers. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 01/10/20 4:49:29 PM #54: |
I Like Toast posted...
1.) There is, you've been given them It's about the games, like I said. If I'm a big Xbox fan and I have the Xbone X, why would I feel the need to get this for some incremental upgrade that plays the same games? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tired-Insomniac 01/10/20 4:50:52 PM #55: |
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It's about the games, like I said. If I'm a big Xbox fan and I have the Xbone X, why would I feel the need to get this for some incremental upgrade that plays the same games? Same reason a lot of gamers went from their original Xbone/S to the X. Moar powah --- "I like turtles" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/10/20 4:52:25 PM #56: |
iTs cHeApeR tHaN a Pc!!!!!!
well no shit. so youre telling me i can pay less for an inferior product that has less functionality in every way comparable? wow. i am sold. consoles are great. i love buying the more inferior version of a game for more than it would cost me on steam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/10/20 4:53:28 PM #57: |
the only console worth owning is a switch tbh. switch and pc is the intellectual way to go
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Tired-Insomniac 01/10/20 4:54:16 PM #58: |
HerpToTheDerp posted...
iTs cHeApeR tHaN a Pc!!!!!! It's not about you, it's about the average consumer who wants more power but doesn't want to deal with the cost and setup of PC gaming. I really don't see what's so difficult to understand about this. "Why would I buy a Toyota when a Lexus is so much better?!" Cause it's cheaper and does most of the same shit --- "I like turtles" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 01/10/20 4:54:23 PM #59: |
Not everyone has room for a PC in their house.
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fohstick 01/10/20 4:55:35 PM #60: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Not everyone has room for a PC in their house.you can buy mini-ITX computers that are smaller than the ps4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/10/20 4:55:53 PM #61: |
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Everything MS is releasing is going to be cross gen for awhile? Pretty sure Sony is going to do the same thing. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 01/10/20 4:57:36 PM #62: |
Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure Sony is going to do the same thing. With some things, but they're definitely going to have things you can only get on PS5. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 4:58:29 PM #63: |
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It's about the games, like I said. If I'm a big Xbox fan and I have the Xbone X, why would I feel the need to get this for some incremental upgrade that plays the same games? So again, it's about the games but it's bad you can play the games? Finding the problem yet? Anyway time to est these cajun fries, you keep getting your food here --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 01/10/20 4:58:38 PM #64: |
fohstick posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...Not everyone has room for a PC in their house.you can buy mini-ITX computers that are smaller than the ps4 Are they the same price and as or more powerful than the PS4 though? --- Clean Butt Crew ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 01/10/20 5:00:51 PM #65: |
I Like Toast posted...
So again, it's about the games but it's bad you can play the games? I'm talking about it being bad from a business standpoint, genius. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tryhaptaward 01/10/20 5:02:19 PM #66: |
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I'm talking about it being bad from a business standpoint, genius. wtf we as consumers love the business standpoint now? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tired-Insomniac 01/10/20 5:03:26 PM #67: |
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I'm talking about it being bad from a business standpoint, genius. How is it bad though? They're giving people options. They make most of their money on software and subscriptions. --- "I like turtles" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 01/10/20 5:04:27 PM #68: |
Tryhaptaward posted...
wtf we as consumers love the business standpoint now? Yeah, for the same reasons we care about ratings and box office earnings. If the things we like don't make enough money, they won't stick around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 5:05:22 PM #69: |
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I'm talking about it being bad from a business standpoint, geniusThe business standpoint of you still buying their games bht not buying their selling for a loss console at launch? Where did you get your business degree, trump u? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillerSlaw 01/10/20 5:06:34 PM #70: |
cmiller4642 posted...
Just fucking quit already and let Sony do their thing I don't know why people still say this Sony fucking sucks and has a ton of problems. Gaming would be infinitely worse if Microsoft wasn't around, just like it would be worse if Sony wasn't around. --- The personal is the political is a totalitarian progressive decree that I reject entirely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 01/10/20 5:07:58 PM #71: |
As much as I wish the idea of console exclusives would go away... Lmao this is a stupid ass move. All Sony has to do is launch with a decent exclusive title and they'll kill it
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fohstick 01/10/20 5:08:39 PM #72: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Are they the same price and as or more powerful than the PS4 though?yeah. You can play console games at 1080p with a $160 RX5500 and $110 AMD 2600 combo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/10/20 5:09:14 PM #73: |
its funny watching people over exaggerate the complexity of pc gaming. in the long run console gaming is hardly any cheaper. theres nothing cheaper about having to buy an entirely new console and accessories when its time to upgrade. youre paying monthly for online play. and finally youre paying more for games in general as console games are more expensive
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Romulox28 01/10/20 5:12:39 PM #74: |
HerpToTheDerp posted...
its funny watching people over exaggerate the complexity of pc gaming. in the long run console gaming is hardly any cheaper. theres nothing cheaper about having to buy an entirely new console and accessories when its time to upgrade. youre paying monthly for online play. and finally youre paying more for games in general as console games are more expensivei disagree, pc gaming is especially expensive these days due to GPU prices and there is an element of work involved (the build/setup is a lot more involved to the average joe than internet people think it is). plus with it you have to buy a lot of stuff that is only applicable to the PC (monitor, peripherals, speakers/headphones, etc) whereas the console works with the TV everyone already has anyway. i enjoy PC gaming but i dont see why anyone but PC enthusiasts or very hardcore gamers obsessed with performance/precision would get into it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/10/20 5:50:31 PM #75: |
the only way console gaming is cheaper is if you buy one console and just never upgrade when the new generation comes out, don't buy any additional accessories like controllers and headsets, don't play online, don't buy games at launch/full price, yes. and thats only if we're comparing it to some guy thats running games at max settings.
there's plenty to get out of pc gaming beyond graphics when you have so many diverse modding communities. then theres emulation which hardly requires a beefed up rig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 01/10/20 5:54:53 PM #76: |
PC gaming for AAA games will never be as accessible as they are on consoles. It's really not complicated to understand.
Most people don't even know what GPU stands for. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 5:58:12 PM #77: |
Romulox28 posted...
i enjoy PC gaming but i dont see why anyone but PC enthusiasts or very hardcore gamers obsessed with performance/precision would get into it https://technode.com/2019/05/15/chinas-pc-gamers-will-exceed-us-population-in-2023-report/ --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/10/20 6:09:22 PM #78: |
China also had banned video game consoles until 2015, of course PCs took off there
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DarthAragorn 01/10/20 6:12:37 PM #79: |
Do you guys remember the launch exclusives for the last two console gens
They were not great ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 6:19:17 PM #80: |
Bio1590 posted...
China also had banned video game consoles until 2015, of course PCs took off there but if consoles are "so" great, the opposite should have happened and not keep growing and growing and growing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/10/20 6:46:09 PM #81: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
No, because you're not even accounting for other factors like natural population growth as well. It's also extremely difficult to break into an already well-established system. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 8:32:38 PM #82: |
Bio1590 posted...
No, because you're not even accounting for other factors like natural population growth as well. no, it's not especially when it comes to casuals vs hardcore gamers and easy plug-in-and-play boxes vs complicated setups. at least that's the excuse that seems to be parroted around everywhere for console vs pc including the original person i quoted. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 8:43:43 PM #83: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
Most pc gamers in China play at pc cafes ,which is even easier than plug and play and they play shit like pubg and this nearly 2 decade old game with 300 mil users https://youtu.be/Lb99aaKt59U Why the fuck did you think china was going to help your argument? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/10/20 8:46:04 PM #84: |
So your argument is literally solely that because one country, where PC gaming got a 15-year head-start on console gaming, and the types of games and the specific games they like to play are far more readily available on PC than on consoles, and didn't immediately start massively adopting console gaming when it became available, then PC must be "superior" to console?
Okay. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 8:50:09 PM #85: |
I Like Toast posted...
Why the fuck did you think china was going to help your argument? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent Tencent is the world's largest gaming company --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 01/10/20 8:51:06 PM #86: |
Lmao so PS Nintendo and PC will continue to be all that's needed
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 8:56:37 PM #87: |
Bio1590 posted...
So your argument is literally solely that because one country, where PC gaming got a 15-year head-start on console gaming, and the types of games and the specific games they like to play are far more readily available on PC than on consoles, and didn't immediately start massively adopting console gaming when it became available, then PC must be "superior" to console? where did i mention superior? somebody posted: i enjoy PC gaming but i dont see why anyone but PC enthusiasts or very hardcore gamers obsessed with performance/precision would get into it and i gave him excellent reasoning as to why this isn't even close to the case. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 9:06:51 PM #88: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent Thanks for letting me know you don't know jackshit about Tencent, how they earned their money, or how business in china works. Can you make any points on your own or is your objective to prove him right in the longest way possible? --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 9:10:01 PM #89: |
I Like Toast posted...
Can you make any points on your own why would i need to when i have facts backing up pretty much everything i've been arguing for? what exactly do you have other than fancy curse words? oh i guess internet anonymity xd --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 01/10/20 9:19:24 PM #90: |
Axiom posted...
Lmao so PS Nintendo and PC will continue to be all that's needed Well, if you're ok with missing the best games which are Playstation exclusive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 9:24:28 PM #91: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
Bruh you argued net cafe wasnt plug and play. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rikiaz 01/10/20 9:29:15 PM #92: |
I Like Toast posted...
To be fair, its really just play. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 01/10/20 9:29:59 PM #93: |
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 9:30:21 PM #94: |
I Like Toast posted...
Bruh you argued net cafe wasnt plug and play. but what's easier? waking up in your home and make an effort to go to the nearest netcafe or plug in a console to your TV one time and always be gaming ready straight outta bed? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 01/10/20 9:34:22 PM #95: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
In china, going to the net cafe. Which if you had any cultural awareness you'd understand why. But you don't, because you have no clue why pc gaming is popular in china and why bringing it up argues the exact opposite of the point you're trying to make. Go educate yourself. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 01/10/20 9:36:12 PM #96: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
I Like Toast posted...Bruh you argued net cafe wasnt plug and play. I dont think you understand why internet cafes exist --- Clean Butt Crew ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 01/10/20 9:36:38 PM #97: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
Uh no, you literally only posted an article in response to that that only discusses how China's PC gaming population continues to grow (which no shit it would and does), and didn't even comment on it. That's not "excellent reasoning" it's borderline not doing anything. Also the fucking funniest thing is that "PC enthusiast" literally describes China's gaming community to a T. I pointed out that one of the reasons PC gaming is so popular is because China banned the sales of consoles from 2000 to 2015 (which encompassed two entire console generations and the beginnings of a third), so anyone who wanted to game either had to illegally acquire a console, buy a PC, or go to a PC Cafe. Your response to that was this: AsucaHayashi posted...
Which of course straight up says you think PC gaming is superior, because your answer to your 'argument' here of "If the consoles are better, why does PC gaming keep growing?" is "Because PC gaming is superior, of course". You're just ignoring literally everything that goes against your narrative and even others are calling you out for it, so you should really quit before you further continue to embarrass yourself. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https:/i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/7fCcfko ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Talk2DaHand 01/10/20 9:40:59 PM #98: |
Spooking posted...
Can you believe Sony won every console war so far? Damn... they're too good! 360 sold much more software than ps3 --- "The wise speak only of what they know." - J.R.R. Tolkien ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 01/10/20 9:51:19 PM #99: |
I Like Toast posted...
In china, going to the net cafe. Which if you had any cultural awareness you'd understand why. But you don't, because you have no clue why pc gaming is popular in china and why bringing it up argues the exact opposite of the point you're trying to make. "consoles are always easier except for........." Bio1590 posted... Also the fucking funniest thing is that "PC enthusiast" literally describes China's gaming community to a T.not according to the link posted above by another user who claims that the only stuff chinese people play are https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=630&v=Lb99aaKt59U&feature=emb_logo not exactly a graphical powerhouse. Bio1590 posted... Which of course straight up says you think PC gaming is superior, because your answer to your 'argument' here of "If the consoles are better, why does PC gaming keep growing?" is "Because PC gaming is superior, of course". or maybe it's because consoles aren't really as great as all the arguments out there are claiming which is part of the reason it isn't really growing in china. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KillerSlaw 01/10/20 10:07:34 PM #100: |
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Well, if you're ok with missing the best games which are Playstation exclusive. XD --- The personal is the political is a totalitarian progressive decree that I reject entirely. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 01/10/20 10:25:47 PM #101: |
Bio1590 posted...
No, because you're not even accounting for other factors like natural population growth as well.yet half of the people in the us that play games play on pc https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/275047-pc-is-more-popular-than-console-in-the-united-states.html/amp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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