Current Events > Rep Jim Banks (R-IN) thinks you can't have PTSD unless you were in the military

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https://twitter.com/repjimbanks/status/1215034549765312512?s=21
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That's not what he said. He's saying its insulting to service members who actually have experienced violent conflict for a congresswoman who lives in comfort and safety to claim she has PTSD.

And also, I absolutely don't believe a congresswoman has PTSD over the recent incidents.

She's literally lived through a war as a civilian

E: And that is absolutely what he's saying lmao
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A person can develop long term PTSD (Many smaller events over a long period), however, unless she has actively been involved in these sort of events - it is not PTSD.

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MaverickXeo posted...

A person can develop long term PTSD (Many smaller events over a long period), however, unless she has actively been involved in these sort of events - it is not PTSD.

i wasnt aware PTSD stood for post wartime traumatic stress disorder.

How about instead of looking stupid you just dont speak on subjects you clearly dont understand.

edit: I dont know anything about her past but it looks like even with your bullshit criteria she still fits the term. Thats two losses in one post.

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MaverickXeo posted...

unless she has actively been involved in these sort of events

She spent four years in a refugee camp after fleeing a war in her birth country.

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Bio1590 posted...

She's literally lived through a war as a civilian

E: And that is absolutely what he's saying lmao

That's obviously not what he is saying. There is nothing in that to suggest you have to be in the military to get PTSD. Reading comprehension, dude.

However, if Omar has PTSD lingering from her childhood and that war in Somalia, that is a valid thing to note. I was under the mistaken impression that she was suggesting the current events were giving her PTSD.

Anteaterking posted...

She spent four years in a refugee camp after fleeing a war in her birth country.

Zeeak4444 posted...

i wasnt aware PTSD stood for post wartime traumatic stress disorder.

How about instead of looking stupid you just dont speak on subjects you clearly dont understand.

edit: I dont know anything about her past but it looks like even with your bullshit criteria she still fits the term. Thats two losses in one post.

I never said that - I wasn't aware of the fact above this. THAT is what I am referring to. I was not aware of her time in a refugee camp.

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He means soldiers that have PTSD after putting their life on the line to make people rich. They are more victims than heroes

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MaverickXeo posted...

I never said that - I wasn't aware of the fact above this. THAT is what I am referring to. I was not aware of her time in a refugee camp.

Yes but you would still be wrong. You dont need to see active wartime combat or live through a war torn country to have PTSD. You just dont.


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Zeeak4444 posted...

Yes but you would still be wrong. You dont need to see active wartime combat or live through a war torn country to have PTSD. You just dont.

...I never said that. I said if she never actively was involved in combat (refugee, citizen, soldier, etc) then I doubt she would have PTSD from the events.

You cannot develop PTSD from media, however, you can develop trauma (NOT PTSD) from second hand accounts over a repeated time.

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MaverickXeo posted...

...I never said that. I said if she never actively was involved in combat (refugee, citizen, soldier, etc) then I doubt she would have PTSD from the events.

You cannot develop PTSD from media, however, you can develop trauma (NOT PTSD) from second hand accounts over a repeated time.

you can also develop it from literally any traumatic event.

Now I think the issue is youre referring to her specifically which I cant really speak on. But if youre talking about PTSD as a whole then you dont have to be actively involved in combat. the way your post is worded sounds like youre speaking on PTSD as a whole. If you just worded it poorly though than my bad too.

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if i were a cruel man i'd say Banks would understand if he was raped or beaten, etc.

but i wont, because i'm not a piece of shit like he is.
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Bio1590 posted...

She's literally lived through a war as a civilian

E: And that is absolutely what he's saying lmao

No and no. She's observed the war. The people in the Middle East are living through it as citizens.

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Being spied on or stalked can give someone PTSD. You would be surprised what an individual can go through but there is a limit.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Rep is a stupid piece of shit so of course people here want to defend it

We shouldn't diminish PTSD by assigning it to people who are just very upset. It's a clinical diagnosis, and I doubt she has it.

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So much incorrect info in here

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vigorm0rtis posted...

Bio1590 posted...

She's literally lived through a war as a civilian

E: And that is absolutely what he's saying lmao

No and no. She's observed the war. The people in the Middle East are living through it as citizens.

She grew up during a civil war in Somalia and spent 4 years in a refugee camp. Shut the fuck up.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

She grew up in a civil war in Somalia and spent 4 years in a refugee camp. Shut the fuck up.

So now her PTSD applies to every conflict in the world? In that case she's medically unsuited for politics.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Thanks Doctor, we really give a shit about your diagnosis.

Whatever, princess.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

you can also develop it from literally any traumatic event.

Now I think the issue is youre referring to her specifically which I cant really speak on. But if youre talking about PTSD as a whole then you dont have to be actively involved in combat. the way your post is worded sounds like youre speaking on PTSD as a whole. If you just worded it poorly though than my bad too.

It was poorly worded - but yes, you can develop it from any traumatic event. As I said before too, you can develop a form of PTSD from repeated minor traumas as well (such as being lied to repeatedly in which you are harmed, etc.).

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Imagine trolling over this subject and Omar. Fucking clowns in here.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

We shouldn't diminish PTSD by assigning it to people who are just very upset. It's a clinical diagnosis, and I doubt she has it.

I think it may be true that some people will claim they have ptsd for sympathy points, but if Omar grew up around violent conflict, like a civil war, it wouldn't be surprising if she has lingering trauma and a level of ptsd.

vigorm0rtis posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

She grew up in a civil war in Somalia and spent 4 years in a refugee camp. Shut the fuck up.

So now her PTSD applies to every conflict in the world? In that case she's medically unsuited for politics.

Lmao shut the fuck up.
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vigorm0rtis posted...

So now her PTSD applies to every conflict in the world? In that case she's medically unsuited for politics.

Based on her experience, she COULD have PTSD symptoms, however, that alone does not mean she has PTSD.

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This topic is almost as misinformed as everyone saying they have OCD because they line their lotions up a particular way.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

So now her PTSD applies to every conflict in the world? In that case she's medically unsuited for politics.

Broken brains don't stop Trump or Biden

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vigorm0rtis posted...

So now her PTSD applies to every conflict in the world? In that case she's medically unsuited for politics.

Why don't you just stop. You clearly don't know what PTSD is, and you're embarrassing yourself trying to sound clever.

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NES4EVER posted...

Why don't you just stop. You clearly don't know what PTSD is, and you're embarrassing yourself trying to sound clever.

How is that "clear?" I've had to deal with a fair bit of it (I don't have PTSD).

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MaverickXeo posted...

Based on her experience, she COULD have PTSD symptoms, however, that alone does not mean she has PTSD.

She could, particularly if she experienced the stuff previously mentioned-- it's likely, even (I don't know her bio). Regardless, I don't see how it has any bearing on anything, except to paint herself as a victim in a situation where she isn't a victim.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Because youve been wrong about literally everything in this topic and trolling about trauma is pathetic.

"Literally everything." Her PTSD is only worth mentioning if it hampers her ability to perform her duties. If it does that, she should resign. If it doesn't, what's the point?


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Welp, people with medical degrees can just fuck off, some gop politician clearly is the expert.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Yeah man keep trolling that suffering trauma should disqualify someone from office, real mature

That's not what I said, but...



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Some pretty pathetic takes ITT

Please change, CE
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Real shit going on in here
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PleaseClap posted...

Some pretty pathetic takes ITT

Please change, CE

I'm always shocked by how ignorant people are about mental health.

PTSD is triggered by experiencing or sometimes just witnessing something traumatic. Obviously, active war zones are full of trauma, and, this might surprise some of you, but civilians are typically far less equipped to handle that trauma than soldiers(who, it should be clear, typically don't handle it well, because war is hell). That goes double for children. Lastly: refugee camps tend to be drastically undersupplied places with not enough shelter and no plumbing that are absolutely rife with diseases of all kinds because malnutrition and sewage is a lethal yet typically unavoidable combo in those situations. So yes, living in a refugee camp for four years would be a horrible and traumatic experience too.

why do people assumed this woman said she got her PTSD from the current event?
she could have gotten it in the past, and the current event is triggering it to resurface.

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She should shut the fuck up. If she cant take the heat, go be a lunch lady.

Topic title is deliberately misleading in a sleazy way.

MaverickXeo posted...

It was poorly worded - but yes, you can develop it from any traumatic event. As I said before too, you can develop a form of PTSD from repeated minor traumas as well (such as being lied to repeatedly in which you are harmed, etc.).

Yeah, I just read it wrong. My bad about that.

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MaverickXeo posted...

A person can develop long term PTSD (Many smaller events over a long period), however, unless she has actively been involved in these sort of events - it is not PTSD.

This is not even close to being true.

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I don't read it as him saying only military people can get PTSD, it looks more like he's pandering to the troops by using them as the example of people with "real" PTSD

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vigorm0rtis posted...

"Literally everything." Her PTSD is only worth mentioning if it hampers her ability to perform her duties. If it does that, she should resign. If it doesn't, what's the point?

Goddamn you are a fucking jackass.